From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:00:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: Exactly. That's why it's funny. From DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:05:00 2003 From: DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DeadFire@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: > what are you talking about creed is a christian band. I used to be a fan of Creed. My Own Prison is still a good album in my eyes. In fact, I was one helluva Creed fan. I read everything there was to read on them when they first became popular. I can say with almost complete certainty that Creed is not a Christian band. Members of the band do believe in God and are not shy about it, but that is all. From mcomb at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:26:00 2003 From: mcomb at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mike Comb) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: Creed is not a Christian band Depends on who you ask, but most people will agree that they at least have strong Christian alt-rock influences. Allmusic for example... "Based on their frequently spiritual lyrics, some observers lumped them in with a new breed of alternative-styled Christian bands that had begun crossing over to the mainstream; however, Creed tried to distance themselves from being pigeonholed as an exclusively religious band out to convert their listeners." Not that there is anything wrong with that of course and I do like a few of their songs. -Mike From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:29:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg Extra's Message-ID: Apostrophe Protection Society From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:31:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: I think we've already spent too long talking about a crappy band. From DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 00:33:00 2003 From: DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DeadFire@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: I'm not defending the band. Or at least I'm not trying to. I just happen to have read interviews with the band stating that they aren't an actual Christian band. And as for the music, again - My Own Prison will always be a good album. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 01:10:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 30 22:29:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: See, Micheal? Told you it was worth it to post it on the BBS. :-) How permanent is that page going to be? I could FAQ it after everyone's run it through the ringer and gotten it complete and corrected. From jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 02:18:00 2003 From: jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jamville@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:01:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Board House? Message-ID: Stu, Which board house? I have a project that requires some custom hardware. And I'm not looking forward to etching pc boards. Thanks, From hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 02:56:00 2003 From: hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (hybrid8@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:01:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Casting of fascia < clear buttons Message-ID: Has someone contacted 303 to ask permission to reproduce his fascia in plastic? This would have numerous benefits. First would be the removal of any possibility of copyright infringement associated with the original fascia. More importantly, it's greater incentive to actually buy one of these new fascias. I'm not overly excited about a solid colour replica of the original design. Sure, a metalic finish would be nice, but it'd still be a replica of the original which is part of what gives the unit a cheap feeling fr some people. However a new design would interest me greatly. I'd be willing to sacrifice one of my fascias in order to make a new source for casting. ie. I would take that fascia, modify it to improve the original design (epoxy additions, drilling, sanding, carving, whatever determind to be necessary) and then supply it for mold making. Of course having an additional spare fascia would be better (I only have one original fascia for each of my two empegs). I have a lot of stuff on my plate already both with daytime job and other side projects (plus taking a warranty company to court and trying to buy a house) but I'd be willing to spend some time on this. Bruno From Chip at jungle.net Thu May 1 03:11:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Thu May 1 22:01:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: yes, i have signed up and i'm bringing 3 friends, 2 that are also empeg owners. I'd like to get a group photo at some point for riocar.org! From Chip at jungle.net Thu May 1 03:17:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Thu May 1 22:01:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 4-LED Knob Board Message-ID: Stu, I would be interested in 2 - 3 boards, and i'm sure i have a few friends that would be as well. I would love to get the complete kit! I've been on Brian's waiting list for well over a year! I'll also pre-pay if you want! Can you start a mailing list to let us know when we willl be ready to start ordering? i'm sure 100 will go fast since the count on the baord is already past 50 now. From visuvius at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 03:23:00 2003 From: visuvius at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (visuvius@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Can someone point me to the faq entry that... Message-ID: will tell me why in Emplode my 30 gig empeg's capicity is reported as 27.6 gigs? Thanks. From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 04:20:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Can someone point me to the faq entry that... Message-ID: Hmm, firstly a 30 Gig drive isn't really 30 Gig because of the way drive manufacturers specify capacity and secondly the operating system has to go somewhere :-) I'm sure someone will elaborate, but don't fret I think it's normal. Cheers, Sim From mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 05:20:00 2003 From: mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mdavey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Can someone point me to the faq entry that... Message-ID: See this thread and this one (or search the BBS for gibibyte). From mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 05:31:00 2003 From: mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mdavey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: Okay, I've added these to my local copy of the webpage. I've also started to break out the games and started a page for the docking stations. I'll update the site later today. How permanent is that page going to be? It could be permanent where it is, although I'd prefer to see it moved to riocar.org so that it is 'owned' by the community. It would also be nice if someone volunteered to be co-responsible for the pages with me (in case I'm on holiday, etc.) - any volunteers? From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 08:08:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: what are you talking about creed is a Christian band No they aren't, or at least not based on what I've heard and seen on TV (which of course makes it true). I know that the lead singer's father is a preacher (or something) but I believe that he rejects most of his father's organized religion. I believe this is also the same situation with Collective Soul. As far as music styles go, I personally don't like Creed at all, but everyone has their own tastes. Edit: I should have read the entire thread before making the point that everyone has already made. My apologies! From somewhereth at sflat Thu May 1 09:02:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Program for Amersfoort Message-ID: The weekend is indeed the 4th/5th/6th July. As yet there is no program available, but it will roughly follow the same pattern as previous events - meet up on the Friday with a visit to a restaurant (Ribs!!!), a full program of competitions and events on the Saturday, and then a half day on the Sunday (a treasure hunt) before people start departing. There'll be a website coming soon to allow bookings and to reserve hotel rooms, but don't count on it being this week! :-D From somewhereth at sflat Thu May 1 09:06:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: I'm doing this if you are interested. I have installed two kits succesfully, and they look great. It's not too complex, but you need to take your time and be a little careful. I'm also doing tuner kits. From somewhereth at sflat Thu May 1 09:21:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Car rentals Message-ID: We used to live in Broad Oak Park (Fairmount Road) near Worsley dell (behined the garden centre). I spent most of my youth trying (unsuccessfully) to build tree houses in Worsley Woods. Had a lot of friends on Ringlow Park Road. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 09:23:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Board House? Message-ID: I don't know which boardhouse Stu is using, but for 1-2 layer boards suitable for hand soldering, www.olimex.com is by far the cheapest that I've found. They also accept EagleCAD files directly, and for non-profit hobbyist use a limited version of EagleCAD (pcb <= 4"x3", including auto-routing) is available gratis. The only gotchas with olimex that I can see are that they tin the boards before soldermasking them, which means that they aren't really suitable for reflow/wave soldering, and that they are based in Bulgaria, which may not be optimal for credit card ordering. (Note that I haven't heard/seen any evidence that suggests that this will be a problem, but I'm generally wary of sending my CC number to a formerly eastern block country). On the positive side they will do free panelisation/de-panelisation, which means that if you had a 1"x2" board then you can pay for an 8"x11" panel, and they will fit as many of your pc bs onto it as possible, and then cut them free afterwards. For small boards this is a bonus - most houses have a panelisation set up fee and a per-board depanelisation charge. IIRC, the next cheapest that I've found is www.custompcb.com. Full SMOBC (suitable for wave/reflow soldering), and still fairly cheap. Although based in Malaysia, they use a US-based CC payment agency, so your CC number supposedly never leaves the US. They appear to be a professional setup from what I've read on their web-site. But you have to pay extra for silkscreening and soldermasking. They also accept EagleCAD directly. If anyone has any other cheap EagleCAD-accepting contenders, please post! From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 09:42:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: TTSClock r6 Message-ID: Bump. Anything doing on the fix? Very cool bit of programming, btw. I've completely outgeeked all my friends. -Zeke From djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 10:14:00 2003 From: djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (djc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:02:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: TTSClock r6 Message-ID: this is actually pretty easy to fix. you should be able to use date's -v option to pass your hour offset (passed to ttsclock in -t) to each of your date calls at the top of the script. check it out. --dan. From mp3 at html.net Thu May 1 10:59:00 2003 From: mp3 at html.net (John Lee) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Wow! it's this sunday? I didnt expect it this soon. Ill be there. Will someone geek out and bring a laptop so we can upgrade each others empegs? From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 11:19:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Board House? Message-ID: The board house is Advanced Circuits in Colarado. They are very helpful and will examine your design for possible manufacturing problems for free. Their prices seem reasonable, at least for small production orders. Plus, they have instant online quoting. I have never placed an order with them, so this is a bit of an experiment. Hopefully I didn't screw anything up and the boards turn out as intended. I don't usually handle the PCBs, but decided to start, so we'll see what happens. I was not impressed by Olimex's capabilities and at least in this case, could not use them. I have never tried Custom PCB, but still I think Advanced Circuits is a bit easier to work with. Stu From thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 11:33:00 2003 From: thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thrasher@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: I know there not a christian band.I was kiding around and waiting to see how long it would take for ferretboy to post somthing.LOL From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 11:47:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: I know there not a christian band.I was kiding around and waiting to see how long it would take for ferretboy to post somthing.Ouch! Am I that predictable? *^_^* From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 11:56:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: You did a good job on the digital connector on the dock and the slot cover mounted connector. Thanks for the tip on the S/PDIF. It was there all along. I was looking for "Digital In" or "S/PDIF In" somewhere and couldn't find it. And about your Senn HD-590s. I'm sure they sound great. I have a pair of HD-600s and they are by far the best (and most expensive) headphones I have ever owned. Stu From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 13:07:00 2003 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] uploading directly into playlist Message-ID: Rather than uploading a bunch of songs onto the HD, THEN setting up a playlist and sending them there, I have set the play list up first and dropped the songs directly into it. Works fine, but I wonder if when I want to play random songs from the entire database, and not from a playlist, will those songs appear? Thanks, Ed From jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 13:19:00 2003 From: jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jamville@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Board House? Message-ID: Thank you. From jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 13:20:00 2003 From: jamville at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jamville@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Board House? Message-ID: Thanks for the info. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 13:48:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: uploading directly into playlist Message-ID: Absolutely. From Chip at jungle.net Thu May 1 13:58:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: I might have mine with me, if i can register winXP by then. }:-( From Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:15:00 2003 From: Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Meatballman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:03:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Will someone geek out and bring a laptop so we can upgrade each others empegs? At the Ohio meet there was an ad hoc wireless network with shared dialup internet going within an hour or so after I got there. About 5 laptops or so joined in the fun. From dglidden at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:20:00 2003 From: dglidden at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dglidden@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: So I saw Rob's announcement that D Any thoughts on supporting the new mp4 standard on the empeg? I just found out about this ACC standard, so I have not heard it yet. Does anyone know of any encoders and/or players that will use it now on a windows machine? http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/aac/ http://www.vialicensing.com/products/mpeg4aac/standard.html From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:31:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Um, they got the Rio line and all new products. They did not buy the support channel. Assuming I read it right, the empeg team is employed, but that the support channel, still with Sonic Blue, is being officially dissolved. From sn00p at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:33:00 2003 From: sn00p at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (sn00p@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: I'm slightly confused as to what this means for empeg, my worst fear is that now D < M have rio's assets we'll never see the V3 software (Built from D < M's source). My question is was the V2 software an empeg only thing and now that 'empeg seems to be floating in free space' who exactly owns the software? Rob's post indicated that they were in negotations about something, is this likely just for support or for the software (V2?)... Adrian From rob at empeg.com Thu May 1 14:37:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: I think you misread the post. Car Support has not been bought by D So I saw Rob's announcement that D We're not floating anywhere - the structure is more defined than it has ever been. Here goes: D How do you feel about having been boned so completely by Sonicblue? I don't feel boned by SB. Whilst they probably weren't the best thing to ever happen to the empeg, remember that they did actually go bust. And remember that they did do so *after* virtually giving away many thousands of Mk2a players. The firesale prices were way below what the units cost to build. And they have allowed the empeg guys to continue to develop for the car player even after they stopped producing them. That is pretty amazing in itself, even if Rob and the team had to fight from time to time in order to justify it. All in all, I think that SB have treated me quite well. My empeg and me are still going to be around next week/month/year, unlike SONICblue. If anything, I've boned them. (especially if those Centrals inexplicably ship!) If you read Rob's post carefully, he did say that he was working on something regarding long term support needs. Obviously I don't know what he has in mind, but even if it were as little as procuring the remaining spares and the rights to distribute schematics/documentation (under NDA probably) then I think that we would be set. Given the level of technical expertise amongst members of this BBS, it wouldn't be too long until someone stepped up to the plate. (This is assuming that Rob Schofiel doesn't continue anyway in an ex-officio capacity). My bigger concern is whether Rob can persuade Empeg Ltd.'s new masters that the car player is still useful for software development and proving, so that we can get v3 at some point in the future. From sn00p at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:45:00 2003 From: sn00p at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (sn00p@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Out of interest, when support stops what will happen to any spare players that you were holding onto for warranty reasons? Are these likely to be sold off? If so, I'd like to get a spare! (Most secondhand sales tend to be in the US, and it's a pain to ship a unit from the US to the UK) . For that matter what happens to anything 'hardware' empeg related? Adrian From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:49:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: My question is was the V2 software an empeg only thing Not sure what you mean here. Unless I missed a memo of some kind, it seems to me that all development since the acquisition of empeg, Ltd. by SonicBlue was done on SonicBlue's dime, under the Rio umbrella. D ..that's kind of what I meant, we all know that the V3 source code is used for other products, what I was trying to ask/say was 'is the V2 software empeg specific?' such that it holds no particular interest with D < M. Adrian From altman at empeg.com Thu May 1 14:54:00 2003 From: altman at empeg.com (Hugo Fiennes) Date: Thu May 1 22:04:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: The carplayer v3 is most definitely not a distant branch; it's the current *trunk* of the empeg sourcebase. A source release isn't going to happen. Ditto for v2. We don't have separate source - everything builds from one repository and almost everything is shared between products. Hugo From rob at empeg.com Thu May 1 14:55:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: Licensing the codec is easy. Playing Apple's protected files is probably not. Rob PS. It's AAC From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 14:57:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: I am well aware of this, and disclaimed myself by clearly stating that I was dreaming. From Chip at jungle.net Thu May 1 14:58:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: ok, fixed to aac.... any plans on when mp4 will be supported by empeg? From mp3 at html.net Thu May 1 15:02:00 2003 From: mp3 at html.net (John Lee) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Cool. Then i will be happy, cuz my laptop got smash after i fell down a hill with it From rob at empeg.com Thu May 1 15:03:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: _My bigger concern is whether Rob can persuade Empeg Ltd.'s new masters that the car player is still useful for software development and proving_ Our "new masters" are the same people as our "old masters", up to President of Rio level (my boss got a promotion). As my job title still appears to be "Manger, Rio Software" I'd say we get to work on what we want to work on as long as the roadmap is delivered on schedule. I'd love to have roadmap time to work on the old car player but that's obviously not going to happen, so we leverage off other projects and fit in debug time where we can. Let's stop talking about software - absolutely nothing has changed since last week! Rob From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:05:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Windows Media Player has three music buying services built inWell, first, in my experience WMP really sucks. I have issues with iTunes, but it doesn't suck. But that's beside the point. I'll admit that I have not seen the services you refer to, but to me the reason that the iTunes store is so cool is it's interface. I don't have to sign up for anything in order to be able to browse and even listen to snippets. I don't have to do a thing beyond install iTunes 4. And the interface to the store is almost exactly the same as the interface to your local music. It most closely resembles the experience to be had of going to a real music shop of any online purchasing I've ever seen. It's easy(-ish; I still hate genre splits) to browse, importantly. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:07:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Yeah, that was made clear to me in the post you made whilst I was still typing. Thanks for calrifying this for us - and very quickly too. You guys really are a class act. From psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:08:00 2003 From: psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (psalm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: Well, considering that support for the Empeg ends this month. Probably never. I'm hoping someone will come up with a solution to it, as I would really like to be able to play the tunes from apples music site. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:09:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: support for the Empeg ends this monthRight. ``Support''. Which, in this case, means ``fixing broken ones''. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:09:00 2003 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: Well, considering that support for the Empeg ends this month. Probably never. not true. read this thread. From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:15:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:05:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: My main player developed a problem last night and I need some help from the board members to fix it. It just won't turn off. When I shut off the ignition in my car, the player just keeps on playing, no standby, nothing. You can put in in standby by pressing the top button, but it won't shut down on it's own when powered off. Been functioning properly for at least a year now and nothing has changed recently in my install. Tried it in one of my other cars just to see if it was vehicle related and the same thing, it won't turn off. Ideas? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:17:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: Check to see if this FAQ applies. From psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:18:00 2003 From: psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (psalm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Just a side not. In the first 18 hours it was open, Apple sold 275,000 songs at $.99 per song. Now that is impressive, especially when you consider that only applies to the Mac market currently, as there is no itunes for the windows/linux users. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 15:23:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Can someone point me to the faq entry that... Message-ID: Can someone point me to the faq entry that... will tell me why in Emplode my 30 gig empeg's capicity is reported as 27.6 gigs? Sure. Right here. From psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:26:00 2003 From: psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (psalm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? Message-ID: Well that's good to know :-) From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:33:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: Could be, I'll go have a look and see. Thank you From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 15:34:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Funny that dglidden should bring this up, I was just updating the relevant FAQ entry this morning to remove the name Sonic|blue, and to update some details. But essentially, the situation hasn't changed since the time when they first EOL'ed the product over a year ago. The only real big difference is that now the one-year warranty has expired on all the players. From psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:36:00 2003 From: psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (psalm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Remote does not work all the time!!! Message-ID: This happens to me, however it only happens when I'm playing WMA's. Fortunately I have very few WMA's in my player. I'm not sure what this means exactly, other than I avoid WMA's :-D From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:37:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: Yep, that's it. Anyway for me to repair this myself, or is support the only option? From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 15:40:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: uploading directly into playlist Message-ID: I wonder if when I want to play random songs from the entire database, and not from a playlist When you say "entire database", if you mean "pressing down-down-down on the player's front panel", that is playing from a playlist. So your statement is a non-sequitur. When you press down-down-down, it plays the root playlist, as shown in Emplode as "Playlists". So if the songs are children of that playlist, then of course it will work. The only times pressing down-down-down won't play a song is: - If the song is in the soup but not in a playlist. - If the playlist is tagged as ignore as child. - If the song is wendy filtered. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 15:48:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Remote does not work all the time!!! Message-ID: This happens to me, however it only happens when I'm playing WMA's Can you reproduce this consistently? Can you describe the type of WMA files such as their bit rate and how they were created? Can anyone else reproduce this? I regularly listen to WMA files on my player (I convert each week's CarTalk into WMA format and put it onto the player for listening later), and I have never noticed this. Anyone else? From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 1 15:49:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: Yep, that's it. Anyway for me to repair this myself, or is support the only option? I'm in the same boat, so keep an eye on that thread for answers to that question. From psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:54:00 2003 From: psalm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (psalm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:06:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Remote does not work all the time!!! Message-ID: It happens to me every time. I'm running the latest Hijack kernal if that matters, however I am still running 2.0b13 (I think) so that could be the issue?. The WMA's are encoded VBR w/ the bitrate ranging from 135 to 215Kbps Its frustrating because I'll go to turn up the volume for example, and it doesn't do anything so I turn it up more and still nothing, then about 5 seconds later my ears are bleeding :-p) From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 15:56:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Player won't shut off at all Message-ID: Gracias From eliceo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 16:52:00 2003 From: eliceo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (eliceo@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: good SoCal Installer? Message-ID: I had no idea there was another empeg so close, but on the install thing if you have the time and are willing to try it, its best to do it your self. From somewhereth at sflat Thu May 1 16:52:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Hotel Message-ID: For those of you coming to the event, you will be pleased to know we have done a little deal with the manager of the hotel. We have a block booking for all available rooms on Friday the 4th July, and Saturday the 5th July. No bookings have been made for the Sunday. There's a 10% rate reduction per person per night. What this means is, you will be paying E33 ( $30, GBP 22) per person per night, assuming you share a room. If you want a room on your own, there is an additional single occupancy fee to pay of E 19 ($16, GBP 12). One breakfast is included per room in the cost, so if two people in one room want a breakfast then you'll have to split the cost of another breakfast (E 6.95). There are 22 double rooms reserved for our party. In the next few days there should be a website coming together to allow you to book. Please DON'T try to book directly with the hotel or you'll just confuse things: you will need to make your booking with me so that I can arrange the booking with the manager. You should note that the hotel bill is your personal responsibility. Bookings (via the website) must be made before the end of May: there will be NO exceptions to this - if you try to book after this date, then you may be out of luck. I'll keep you all informed as there's more info - in the meantime, now's the time to make up your minds and get ready to reserve your seat! :) From bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 16:57:00 2003 From: bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bootsy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I just found out this morning... Emusic has finally started to upgrade all of it's music to VBR MP3s. Most are already posted, but it will say on the album page if they are still 128k CBR. I had a subscription a while back, but I canceled over the quality issue. If I am paying for the tracks I want better quality. It would appear that I wasn't the only one complaining and they decided to listen. They have instigated a 45 tracks a day policy since some were abusing the unlimited system with 'bots and such. Anyway, EMusic's collection has grown since I was last here. You still can't get some of the more popular pop artists, but there is a lot of odd stuff I haven't been able to find anywhere else. There is no DRM, just unrestricted MP3s. Check out their 50 track free trial if you are so inclined. ("Bootsy" has no professional connection with Emusic... he is just very excited.) From pim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 17:31:00 2003 From: pim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pim@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hotel Message-ID: you will be paying E33 ( $30, GBP 22) What kind exchange rates are these ? EUR 33 = USD 37,08 = GBP 23,03 according to http://www.xe.com/ Pim From StoreCareMgt at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 17:44:00 2003 From: StoreCareMgt at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (StoreCareMgt@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Actually I remember hearing that MS was supposed to have DRM to those same 5 record companies specs, and SonicBlue was signed on to support it with hardware in Q1 2003. The new DRM would allow people to download and listen to unlimited music for $20/month but if you ever cancelled the service then all the music you downloaded, including the music on your portable device, would stop working. MS said they could not finish in time, so they expect to roll it out Q2 or Q3 2003. Apple got around the complication of this by simply charging per song, as the record companies said they would allow people to burn the downloaded songs to CD for $1 per song, meaning the new DRM is unlocked for $1/song. All this should be very exciting in the future, at a cost of $20/month. Jeremy Briggs www.carplayer.com From StoreCareMgt at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 17:46:00 2003 From: StoreCareMgt at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (StoreCareMgt@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: good SoCal Installer? Message-ID: I've heard Beach Auto Sound in Huntington Beach is quite good. They do a lot of custom stuff, and were one of the first car audio shops in the country to carry the Neo line of MP3 players (meaning custom remote LCD install in every car). Jeremy Briggs www.carplayer.com From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 20:32:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: < Will someone geek out and bring a laptop so we can upgrade each others empegs? Hey, I might need it! I've been using 1.03 stock, waiting for 2.0 final. Now that it's here, I NEED it (I guess). If ya'll want to help me with 2.0final, hijack, games, and all that other fun stuff, that'd be a blast! See you all there. I'll bring my 5 megapixel digital camera for the group photo. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 20:38:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: > I'm doing this if you are interested. I have installed two kits succesfully, and they look great I can back Rob up on this. My Empeg is one of those two installs that Rob mentions and he absolutely did a great job at it ! Highly recommended! From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 21:29:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 4-LED Knob Board Message-ID: In reply to:> Can you start a mailing list to let us know when we willl be ready to start ordering? I can try to set something up on the website. No promises though. The boards are now at the "screening" stage, indicating 80% completion. At this rate, they will be done by tomorrow, but they are still saying expected ship date is May 23. Perhaps they will just be sitting in their facility until the 23rd, so as not to give me too much for my money. Their one week service was substanially more than the 4 week one I chose to go with. Stu From hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 21:39:00 2003 From: hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (hybrid8@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:07:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Ok, who is this? It certainly can't be Bitt. I mean, the logic is close to the money, but the grammar has dropped down a slippery slope. "it's interface?" Woah. "beyond install?" Hmmm.. "Think Different" :-) And then "almost exactly" - topper! :-) Hehehe. Price is too high, quality is not there. It'll buy them a lot of buzz and it'll help the sale of iPods and Macs. Bruno From mp3 at html.net Thu May 1 21:41:00 2003 From: mp3 at html.net (John Lee) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: yeah that was what i was thinking, so we could update each other and trade our geeky wares. I need to write some cool php tools or something. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 22:28:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Whew. I've had a headache all day. I should just stay in bed. :-) I don't understand what your problem is with ``beyond install'' or ``almost exactly,'' though. I didn't get a good listen to the quality of the snippets, which I assume, but don't know, are of the same quality as what I'd be buying. But, as you say, it's still too expensive. If it's $10 an album (and I'm not inclined to purchase individual tracks), I need to be restricted less if I'm only going to be saving a few dollars. What I'd really like to see is a store that would allow me to purchase a CD, send the CD to me, but allow me to download the tracks in the meantime. Instant gratification is where it's at. From hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 22:45:00 2003 From: hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (hybrid8@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: The songs are not of the same quality as my LAME encoded VBR files if other online reports are true. I'd have to verify myself of course. However, having an original CD can't be beat for versatility. I can always re-encode again in a future format. Decoding the AAC only to reapply another lossy compression isn't going to be ideal. "Almost exactly" - are you serious? If it's EXACT, then there's no "almost" about it. If it's "almost" then it's not exact. The two words contradict each other and should be used exclusively of one another. I'm sure you'll dig up some proof that it's acceptable usage but I've always been taught it isn't. The "beyond install" should have been "beyond installing." :-) Not that I'm a stickler for that sort of thing of course. Though, I did nail my girlfriend this afternoon for sending out a mass email full of apostrophes where there should have been none. No pun intended... :-) I have to figure out sometihng to do tonight so I can can avoid writing this evening off as a complete veg session. Hmm... Bruno From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 22:54:00 2003 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: This is great news! :-) From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 1 23:11:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: "beyond install" should have been "beyond installing."Either would be correct. Two different syntactic forms to convey the same information.If it's EXACT, then there's no "almost" about it.I didn't say that it was exact. I said that it was approaching exactitude. I will give you that something is either exact or not, but something can approach exactness without being exact. What term do you use in this instance? From justinlarsen at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 01:09:00 2003 From: justinlarsen at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (justinlarsen@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: ya, almost makes me want to sign up agian, with the exception of the 45songs per day rule. From hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 01:38:00 2003 From: hybrid8 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (hybrid8@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Ok, you do have a point about the degree of similarity. However, I slightly goofed by not providing a more complete quote and therefore not providing the proper context to illustrate why the word shouldn't be used. Guess I was a bit sleepy too.. Actually, there's a good example above of what you just made a point about: "more complete" - the degree of completeness. In the case of the "exactly" example, you should simply omit the word "exactly." It's superfluous because you've used the word "same." If something is "the same" it should already be a given that it is exact. Otherwise it isn't the same. So "almost exactly the same" should be just "almost the same," or alternately, "almost exact." I'll give you the "install" as a matter of style. :-) Bruno From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 01:43:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I checked out the message boards on emusic and saw many people whine about the 45 song a day thing. First I can't imagine needing to get more than that at one time anyway. I usually just get one album at a time. Secondly according to one of the moderators on the BBS the limit is that you can only que 45 songs to be downloaded at one time in the emusic download manager. So when the first 45 are done you can que up 45 more. I can't remember how long I have been signed up and I have been really happy with the service. I have found many bands I like that I wouldn't have checked out otherwise. And don't forget it's only 10.00 dollars a month that's like one album on the apple thing :-) . From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 01:52:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 1 22:08:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: This could be a PBS show "Grammar Wars". They could show a sentence and there would be a debate over if the grammar is correct or not :-) From bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 02:16:00 2003 From: bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bxgurl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: After my whining about working on Saturday, I can't go. I have to go to Phoenix to play with trucks and avoid my tards. From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 04:48:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Cheers for the heads up on this one - I think I may have to join :-) ....... But then I'll need more storage and and and &:*) Ah, f##k it, do it anyway :-) From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 04:52:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 4-LED Knob Board Message-ID: Their one week service was substanially more than the 4 week one I chose to go with Yeh, sounds like the postal service. Sending a letter second class just gives them "THE RIGHT" to slow it down, but it generally goes the same way as first class. From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 2 07:46:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: That's a frighteningly good idea, Matt. From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 2 07:48:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: and avoid my tards. I heard we're calling them "trainables" these days. :-) From jasonc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 09:24:00 2003 From: jasonc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jasonc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: I usually pull it out at nite.p229 very nice gun. my other gun is a 9mm epa,special forces with a scope and 18 round clips.it stays in the garage just incase i have visitors when i get home.lol You should go listen to a song by Wierd Al called "Trigger Happy". It's not some crappy ripoff, it's an original Al tune. From Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 10:26:00 2003 From: Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Yang@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: This sounds pretty good.. I was thinking of getting satelite radio to increate my music diversity, but as I'm only on the road about 30 minutes a day it's not worth it.. From bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 10:41:00 2003 From: bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bxgurl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:01:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: I heard we're calling them "trainables" these days. I don't think that aplies to these guys. I need video cameras in the showroom, no one believes me when I tell them just how stupid these guys are. Sadly, they've all got several years more experience than I do. 9:39 AM and already I'm off to work on my day off. Again. From Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 10:56:00 2003 From: Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Yang@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Kinda sounds good.. their $10 a month deal is missworded. They have $45 for three months, or $120 for a year.. This is not a monthy service, as you can't cancel after a month, you just pay per month. If you cancel before the service ends, you have to pay for the rest of the service period. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 10:56:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: In the case of the "exactly" example, you should simply omit the word "exactly." It's superfluous because you've used the word "same."Good point. I was trying to be emphatic, but that might have been the equivalent of ``very, very''. From blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 11:11:00 2003 From: blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (blitz@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: > I think I may have to join Don't sign up yet. I just did and they are having a massive SNAFU. For the past 48 hours, nothing will download for anyone. I'll keep you advised. Their message boards are jammed with complaints. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 11:12:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ghost empeg Message-ID: Absolutely. Great tune. "Got an Uzi by my pillow, helps me sleep a little better at night" From Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 11:42:00 2003 From: Yang at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Yang@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Yea, I saw that and I wasn't even signed up yet.. ;-) From TigerJimmy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 12:08:00 2003 From: TigerJimmy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (TigerJimmy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: I'd love to see this on riocar.org and have a link at the top of the empeg bbs like the Hijack, jEmplode, etc links. Thanks for posting all this stuff, everyone! I think the community should have some kind of mechanism to capture the cool add-ons for the player and get this list updated. Perhaps something like the "Announcements" forum? FWIW, Jim From cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 14:43:00 2003 From: cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cushman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BBS and riocar.org suggestion Message-ID: Drakino, I'll volunteer to maintain a 3rd party add-on section of riocar.org. PM me if you're interested. I was thinking maybe we could combine it with this thread and make a master list. From cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 14:45:00 2003 From: cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cushman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: mdavey, I'll volunteer to be co-responsible for the site. I've already said something in this post that I wrote a while ago. When Drakino replies, I'll let you know what's up. From bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 17:09:00 2003 From: bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bootsy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Uh... not "nothing." There are some problems with time outs and such, but I downloaded two albums and a couple of tracks yesterday. It might be a good idea to wait to sign up until they shake out the new server bugs though... (EDIT: I didn't see that about 45 song queue limit... I guess I was going off the whining in the message board. Heh. And you are correct, they do require a year long subscription for the $10 a month deal.) From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 19:23:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Yeah I got some stuff to download too. I think the problem is their new download client is buggy and now they require you to use it. From bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 22:36:00 2003 From: bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bootsy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:02:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I have now run into the "Unavailable" problem many have complained about... From the sounds of it, they are getting pounded by downloads and there are servers being moved, database problems... etc. If anyone is thinking of attempting the trial, I would give them some time to work this out. I have downloaded several full albums, but there is much that appears to be missing now. I do like the "stash" feature... From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 23:39:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:03:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I think the problem is their new download client is buggy and now they require you to use it. They have a specific client? Aaaaargh. I bet they don't have one for Linux yet. /me goes to look... Yay! They *do* have it for Linux. /me keeps reading... Bah. It's a browser plugin. /me wonders how to run this on an Alpha. If you are having issues, we recommend that you switch your Linux flavor or OS in order to download with the EMusic Download Manager 2.0. Hah! I wonder if they really believe that people will really do this? /me keeps chuggin' along without EMusic. From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 2 23:54:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:03:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: In the case of the "exactly" example, you should simply omit the word "exactly." It's superfluous because you've used the word "same."Good point. I was trying to be emphatic, but that might have been the equivalent of ``very, very''. Or, uh... dare I say, "really unique"? From Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 00:37:00 2003 From: Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Banacek@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:03:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? Message-ID: I was just wondering if the MS version of the upgrader ever came about... From Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 01:42:00 2003 From: Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Banacek@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 2 22:03:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: Ok, so I'm trying to create my own animated boot logo, and I'm using JAnimEdit (as you could probably tell) and I'm having a little problem. No matter what I do, the Sequence List is always blank. Now if I add frames and hit play it shows the logo being animated, but it's hard to figure out when I can't see what I'm doing. Thanks.. From CityBeach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 02:08:00 2003 From: CityBeach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (CityBeach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Whaddya think the chances are of getting support for this on the Empeg? I'm betting with a license fee for AAC, plus who knows what for Apple's DRM, and the fact that you can hack the Empeg kernel (not good news for a DRM system) means it's not likely. From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 3 02:14:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: and the fact that you can hack the Empeg kernel (not good news for a DRM system) Like you can't hack the iPod. Heh... From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 3 02:21:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: So you're saying that you can draw frames in the left hand pane, then add those frames to the animation in the right hand pane, but one of those two parts of the screen is blank? I assume from your description that it's the sequence window on the right hand side of the screen that's blank? I suspect a problem with the version of the Java Run Time Engine being used. Did you install the Sun one or are you just using Microsoft's? Or perhaps you're running an old version of Jemplode? What are the versions of each? Java: Write once, debug everywhere. From Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 03:12:00 2003 From: Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Banacek@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: Yeah, it's the right window which is blank. You know, it was a while ago, so I don't know which Java Runtime engine i got. So I went to Sun's website and downloaded their's and, that seemed to do the trick! Thanks again! From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 3 03:14:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: Ah, another satisfied customer. That'll be 20 dollars, please. :-) ;-) :-) From rob at empeg.com Sat May 3 03:39:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Certainly in the case of WMA DRM, it is not possible to license it for Linux (or any GPL OS). That's probably true for this also. The new HDD portable runs a different OS for that exact reason. From Derek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 07:34:00 2003 From: Derek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Derek Ward) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? Message-ID: and did anyone ever get around to porting the ethernet upgrader to the Mac? I had a go, but got bogged down pretty early on ... :-( From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 07:49:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:00:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Don't sign up yet. I just did and they are having a massive SNAFU - Thanks for that, BUT PLEASE do post back if they ever get their poo sorted out. It still sounds like a good deal (had a quick scan of the available content and there's easily gotta be over a years worth ($120) of downloading there for me anyway :-) From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 11:06:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: It has been working again as of last night and this morning. From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 11:33:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: Now it quit again. I thing they tried to do too many things at once (new downloader, re-encode everthing). Also I'm sure everyone keeps retrying so they are getting more traffic than usual. From mp3 at html.net Sat May 3 12:09:00 2003 From: mp3 at html.net (John Lee) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: so its tommorow? From Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 12:41:00 2003 From: Banacek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Banacek@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: The check's in the mail :-) From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 14:02:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Can someone point me in the direction of a supplier for acrylic sheets in 1/16" thicknesses. I am particularly interested in neon colors. I've checked out Tap Plastics but am looking for other colors. Thanks. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 14:20:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Meet is tomorrow From justinlarsen at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 14:22:00 2003 From: justinlarsen at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (justinlarsen@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: I know RobRicc's company used to sell them, but i belive its only in large orders, he might jump onto this pos im sure since he would have more details From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 14:24:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: If you're talking about the gels, I don't think they're quite that thick. Anyway, we do not require large orders. You can even order direct from our cheesey Yahoo Store. From Folsom at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 14:42:00 2003 From: Folsom at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Folsom@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I was getting good downloads last night, but today I am getting stalled downloads. Restarting the DLM gets it going again, but I lose some albums, and I have to re-request them again. I assume everyone is replacing their old 128 with the new VBR. I didn't realize how many of my albums have disappeared since I downloaded them. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 17:30:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Just giving this thread a slight bump. Tomorrow looks like it's going to be a nice day. There are about 13 BBSers signed up for the meet. Between their guests and people I know are coming that are not on the BBS or signed up, it seems we could get 25 people tomorrow! We're looking to meet at 3PM as scheduled in the parking lot of Arthur's Tavern in Emerson, NJ. I should be there early to greet everyone. In case I'm not there and someone wants to check-in with the restaurant, the party is listed under "Robert". I have the trivia questions printing out, but the prize will be pride since I have no tangible prizes to give out. }:-( If anyone would like to have my cell phone number in case you get lost, send me a PM. Oh yeah... hooray for me on the occasion of my 2000th post! From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 20:23:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:01:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Thanks but I'm actually looking for acrylic that looks fluorescent or neon along a cut edge when light is shown behind it. From gbeer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 20:26:00 2003 From: gbeer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (gbeer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Online is USPlastics Glenn From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 21:07:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: My site will be going back up if I can come up with the money to renew it. There are quite a few of my loyal customers that convinced my to do it but I am going to change a couple things. Hopefully it should be back up within a couple weeks tops. Maybe sooner if I can find the extra money somewhere. From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 22:29:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Good to hear that, hopefully my order from you will be coming soon. From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 22:54:00 2003 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Steve, I'm not sure what hosting requirements you have. But I can provide you with either FreeBSD hosting, or Windows hosting completely free of charge, unless you start using a couple hundred gigs of bandwidth a month. I tried to send you a private message, but I noticed your not accepting them. Anyways, if you’re interested, let me know. I would love to be able to help out in anyway possible. From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 3 23:07:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: You guys (and girls) have fun... I was actually hoping to make this my first "sunday trip" in about 10 years. Unfortunately, I have to be here tommorrow night. From bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:20:00 2003 From: bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bbourk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: So, I've been seeing a number of people throwing around the idea that version 3.0 software for the empeg is being worked on. Just wondering where they got this info from and how much truth there is to it? The latest info I've seen indicates this is not the case. From DomoKun at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:27:00 2003 From: DomoKun at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DomoKun@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] TTSClock r7 Message-ID: Ok, I fixed the bug with the timezones. Release 7 is available for download from http://www.zabaware.com/empeg From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:29:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: The latest info I've seen indicates this is not the case....and what info might that be? 3.0 exists in other (future) products. From bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:32:00 2003 From: bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bbourk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: The post on www.empeg.com with the headline... Car Support to be Discontinued, 01-May-2003 etc. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:45:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: That refers to the repair service. Not future software support. From bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:51:00 2003 From: bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bbourk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: I see.... do any of the programmers post on this board? If so, what have they had to say about v3 (timeline, etc.)? From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 00:56:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:02:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: Rob is the software manager... he discusses this idea here. From cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 01:10:00 2003 From: cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cwillenbrock@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:03:05 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: I'm bummed about missing this. I'd still like to go, but as of now my car is in the shop and I'm without a way to get there. So ya'll have fun. ..or maybe I can hitchhike. That's the ticket! Actually, if anyone is in a position to help with maybe a ride there (I live in Dover, NJ) do let me know. I can PM my cell if someone is going to be passing my area and doesn't mind stopping by. I know it's late in the game for that, though... From bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 01:12:00 2003 From: bbourk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bbourk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:03:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: Well, that's certainly interesting news. Thanks. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 01:17:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:03:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: I can pick you up. I'm doing nothing the whole day leading up to the meet. Let me know. I will PM you my cell phone. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 01:20:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 3 22:03:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: Maybe someone with rights to do so should post a response to that announcement clarifying what ``support'' means in that context. This is not the first confusion about that and it's only been a few days. From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 02:23:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:00:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Thanks, I'll give them a call to check if they also have 1/16". From bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 03:36:00 2003 From: bootsy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bootsy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:00:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I haven't had any problems downloading as of this afternoon. Albums that I had tried before and was told were "Unavailable at this time" are back and downloading without error... I too noticed a few albums that I had previously downloaded missing from the offerings. I am going to give them a day or two before I get too freaked out. (the missing items are pretty 'hyper-nerd' so I am almost too embarrassed to ask about them.) From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 04:35:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:00:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I think stuff is missing while they re-encode it. Thursday All the epitaph stuff was gone but it is back now. They should have re-encoded everything before annoucing this. From mschrag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 10:46:00 2003 From: mschrag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mschrag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: In reply to:Java: Write once, debug everywhere. Every Alternative: Rewrite everywhere, debug everywhere. ;-) From mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 11:25:00 2003 From: mdavey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mdavey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: ...I'll volunteer ... Great! From cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 11:36:00 2003 From: cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cwillenbrock@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: OK...thanks to Rob's *very* generous offer, I'll be making the meet after all. Thanks, Rob! From Chip at jungle.net Sun May 4 12:53:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: i can bring your home, i will be going pack to parsippany nj. Find me at the meet.. just look for a guy walking around with a big digital slr camera named steve! From Chip at jungle.net Sun May 4 12:55:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Rob, send me a PM if you want me to pick up Chris. I have room for 1 more, and i will be meeting my friends about 5 min away from Dover NJ around 1 or 1:30 pm today. From Aragon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 13:45:00 2003 From: Aragon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Aragon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Along with Oliver, I can also help with hosting depending on the requirements. Feel free to contact me. Regards, Aragon From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 16:08:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: You named your camera Steve? From tfabris at jps.net Sun May 4 16:14:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Version 3.0 Software Message-ID: Just wondering where they got this info from and how much truth there is to it? Remember that some of the messages you see on this BBS are from members of the Cambridge development team. When they say they're working on 3.0 (and they've said they have), they are telling the truth. I've updated this FAQ entry in the last couple of days, by the way. From tfabris at jps.net Sun May 4 16:15:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: A question about JAnimEdit.. Message-ID: Touche'. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 16:50:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: > All the projects we have been working on - such as the cute new HDD portables - are continuing on schedule. A little voice tells me that the Pearl was initially to be realeased late july or early august. Is this still true ? I'm asking this because I'm still in the market for a HD portable mp3 player, and that new iPod is looking mighty fine. So is that new Creative Zen 60gig. But is the Pearl is still on schedule, I guess I can wait a couple more months. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 17:14:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Darkstorm's site gone? Message-ID: Hasn't been up for a few days. Is it still http://www.darkstormdesigns.com/ ? I know he was talking of taking no more orders. It does seem a sudden way to end though. If this is whats happened that is. An annoucement would be nice. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 17:19:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm's site gone? Message-ID: See here. Stu From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 17:21:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:01:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm's site gone? Message-ID: Ah, that post passed me by. Thanks. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 17:31:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hotel Message-ID: Probably just the huge drop in value of US$ over the past week or two that's mucked up the numbers some. Cheers From marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 18:23:00 2003 From: marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (marria01@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Ooooooh, the pearl looks nice...... Rob please tell me it's going to be available in the UK! &:*) From jarob10 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 19:06:00 2003 From: jarob10 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jarob10@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: In reply to: Rob please tell me it's going to be available in the UK! dream on From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 19:28:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Toby (and others?), If I were to fly from Canada to London/Heathrow for a few days, could I perhaps share a ride (possibly one-way) with one of you from that general area to the meet in Amersfoort? I've been tardy and am only now trying to book flights and stuff. Thanks! From rob at empeg.com Sun May 4 19:59:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I'm sure there will be a ride going with one of the empeg types if that would help, either from Cambridge or Harwich (either of which is a 40 min train ride from London). You'd be welcome to visit empeg towers, especially if you're in the mood for a green curry. Rob From rob at empeg.com Sun May 4 20:00:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: That would be the approximate time frame, yes. Rob From rob at empeg.com Sun May 4 20:04:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: _Rob please tell me it's going to be available in the UK_ DNNA's European strategy for Europe hasn't been unveiled yet, but I have heard murmerings that D Is there some particular project you're looking at making or just looking at putting me out of the couple of dollars I make on a lens because of my backlog this year? Because if it's the latter, this year has had absolutely horrible circumstances for me which has caused this major backlog. My history of serving the community over the past couple of years has been very good. Ask any of my long time loyal customers not the few new customers that expect fast food convenience type service for a niche custom part out of what they mistakenly think is a full time full fledged business instead of the spare time hobby for the community business it is. Also there was no need to worry about either of your orders Jeff. As I stated Here, I intend to honor all orders that I received until the site went down. As for the offer on the site hosting guys that would be great but the site I'm at (It's still there just not accessible at the moment) was tolerable for me and pretty easy to use. It was just with all of the problems this year I wasn't able to make enough in profit to renew the site before it went down so I'm going to have to steal money from some bills here and there to get it back up. And though I was pretty much satisfied with them I could have used more storage space and cgi or something similar. Even though I don't know how to program that stuff I can build a basic web page with the Dreamweaver program I have. Plus I would still have to use Tucows (that's who my account was with) or someone else to some extent for my domain name registration which is also through them. That is unless I misunderstand how the whole process works. (You know, I tested for IQ at 142 in my mid 20's but the older I get I think it's dropping point by point :-) ) I would have only liked to have those things (space, cgi, etc...) because I could have made the site a little more functional for the customers the way I wanted and I couldn't find the javascript to do the equivalent. Paul had offered to help me out with it but I just haven't been able to put the time in to find the examples of how I wanted it to work. From Folsom at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 20:26:00 2003 From: Folsom at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Folsom@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EMusic goes VBR -altpreset Message-ID: I can't find a bunch of jazz I downloaded previously: Archie Shepp Eric Dolphy - Looking Ahead Art Ensemble of Chicago - Fanfare for the Warriors Duke Ellington - Soul Call BassDrumBone are among some I see missing. I am glad I check the "new" page often, so I don't miss any albums. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 20:37:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Back from the meet! We started at 3 and left at 7. 4 hours of empeg fun! I took a bunch of pics as well as Steve (CHiP). I will post mine on RioCar asap. Thanks to everyone who came! From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 20:46:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:02:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: TTSClock r7 Message-ID: Cool! I'm downloading now... -Z From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:06:00 2003 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Steve, I can offer you a cgi-bin directory, php, perl, ssi, mysql, asp, etc... Tucows is your domain registar, you would have to update your DNS servers that your domain points too, tucows probably has a web based admin panel to do this. You would still have to pay the $15+/year for your domain name, I can't get around that, but at least you wouldn't have to pay for webhosting. All of our accounts start at 20mb of disk space, but if you would need more than 20mb, that is not a problem. I'm pretty sure we could handle any server side features you could possibly need. Anyways, its an option to bring your operating costs down a little bit, I guess just my way of saying thanks for all the hard work steve. From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:16:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: I am looking at making a lens for 303's fascia for my own use. I have access to laser cutting service that can do depth cutting and wanted to see if the neon effect carries over in 1/16" acrylic. As far as making a business out of making lenses? No, I have neither the time nor inclination to do so. If I learn anything of use, I'm more than happy to share it with you and the forum. I do hope you are able to continue making the lenses for everyone. As an upside, I would expect that if Casting_Fool is able to create the new buttons/fascia then demand for the lenses would pick up for you again. From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:18:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: They give me 25meg. I would kind of like to have at least 50 to 100 for this and other project I have in mind ( If I ever find time for them). It's appreciated. I don't know how to do the programming part of it but I will keep it in mind as an option though. I'll let you know if I need it. Thanks Oliver. From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:20:00 2003 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: 50-100mb of disk space is not a problem. The only problem would be if you started to use alot of bandwidth. 100's of gb/month From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:40:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: If I ended up using the offer that would not be a problem. The 1 project I have in mind that would use the most space is an archive site for old magazine tech articles for Lincoln LSC's, 5.0 Mustangs, Old custom car features, How-to projects on all sorts of things (car tuning, engine building, electronic projects, etc, etc) all in pdf formats. It wouldn't be anything like streaming media or the like. So it would be for the hobby business (Empeg/Custom Vinyl/ Lincoln < other car repro vinyl/ specialty article archives). All pretty much geared to the few bbs communities I belong to. I should know what I'm going to do in the next 1-2 weeks though. From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 21:53:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Yeah, and thanks to Rob for putting it together. It was good to see all you guys and gals and all your rigs. Ha, and now that I've heard how good all your cars sound, I'll have to get some good speakers and a real amp. And thanks for the 2.0final + HiJack upgrade. Now I just have to figure out how to use it. See my panic/rant in General. See ya'll at the next meat. I mean, meet. Sorry, that was a freudian-steak-slip. Mmmmm, steak. From Rezolution at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 4 23:17:00 2003 From: Rezolution at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Rezolution@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Yeah, thanks Rob, I had a great time!!! From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 00:06:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Hey, many thanks to the guys at the NY meet for upgrading me to 2.0final and HiJack (cwillenbrock and JeepBastard (right?)). However, I'm having a huge problem with the menu system. I know I should read the FAQ and look on the BBS, but I'm basically in panic over this. The first symptom in a sentence: When I enter a menu, it shows me a random item rather than the one that's currently selected. The second symptom in a sentence: In the menus, the order of the items is different each time I go into the menu. The question in a sentence: Is this the design of all 2.0 versions, just 2.0final, or a result of HiJack? The symptoms in more than a sentence: Let's take the Info menu for example: In 1.03, if ya'll can think back that far, the items in the Info menu were Off, Line, Track, Now In reply to:I am looking at making a lens for 303's fascia for my own use. I have access to laser cutting service that can do depth cutting and wanted to see if the neon effect carries over in 1/16" acrylic. I have a 303 Fascia on loan from Paul to me for prototyping. So I will be offering them. I also have a Laser system at work and when it's not tied up I try to get the 1/16 Clear and Smoke made on it. As far as finding neon material in 1/16th. Good Luck. I have not been able to so far and secondly I don't think you'll have a very good effect if you intend on doing something similar to my Neons. I.E. making a raised portion to simulate a neon ring. Especially if you do it on the Laser. 1. At best you'll have only a 1/32nd thick lip which would probably not be enough and 2. The laser just by the inherent nature of how the systems work will probably warp the lens when you burn off the extra material to leave a lip for the ring effect. I'm not trying to rain on your idea. I just don't see it working like I think your intending. I've been in the plastics business too long. From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 00:25:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Thanks for the advice. I would be interested in the new fascia lenses when you get up and running on them. From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 00:35:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: I'll announce when they're ready but right now any extra time I have I need to put into catching up all the past orders. They'll show up it's just gonna take a little bit before they do. From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 01:32:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun May 4 22:03:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: The laser just by the inherent nature of how the systems work will probably warp the lens when you burn off the extra material to leave a lip for the ring effect. What about a flat neon lens with simply a laser-etched "line" instead of a full "mesa" cutaway? Isn't that neon material meant to be able to have etched lettering that seems to light up when side-lit? I don't think it would take that deep of a cut to make a visible glowing line in the neon material. From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 01:49:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun May 4 22:04:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: First things first. None of this stuff has anything to do with Hijack. The menu order of the player software is not controlled by hijack. I see the logic for Shuffle: "Off is always selected so you can always switch it off" Not exactly. Off is the default selection if one of the shuffle modes is activated. If shuffle is off, and you select the Shuffle menu, it shows you the last shuffle mode. Reason: FAQ entry here. Interesting point about how the positioning of the items themselves within the menu seems to change around a bit. Not sure why that is. Never bothered me... :-) but that's not consistent with Info Insert Walt Whitman quote here. In any case, I don't think the behavior of the menus has changed between 2.0 beta 13 and 2.0 final. Didn't you notice this happening in beta 13? Why wait until now to complain? They even did a "last call for beta 13 bugs" shortly before their last pizza session. :-) If I'm viewing in Line mode and I enter the Info menu, it has Now DNNA's European strategy for Europe hasn't been unveiled yet Probably because it's awaiting approval by the Department of Redundancy Department. It doesn't really help that the UK MP3 market is practically non existant these days, with almost all major high street retailers exclusively bought into minidisk. And was it like that before you guys had this crazy idea to start a company, in the UK, that made car MP3 players? :-) From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 02:05:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: But I will ask if there's a way to keep Line mode from squishing the visual. Use transient. Then it only squishes for a few seconds each track before gracefully disappearing. Hitting 'Select Mode' on the remote will pull the line back up again should you need to. From adavidw at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 02:41:00 2003 From: adavidw at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (adavidw@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: Whoa, different OS? I had always assumed it would be Linux since the player software we currently know and love is running it on. No reason it can't be compiled for something else, of course. But, if you can say, what OS is being used? I'll have to stop getting my hopes up for PearlHijack now. From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 03:36:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: True. But he is trying to find 1/16th neon material and therein lies the problem. Your idea although there's less laser time on the lens, hence less chance to warp it leaves a couple other problems. It is still only going to be 1/32" deep which wouldn't be enough to be visible considering the fact that a laser cutting systems cut a hairline for one pass. In order to see it at all he would have to widen the thickness of the cut pattern to a minimum of 1/8 inch which increases immensly the amount of passes and reintroduces a heat and warp factor and will still be hardly visible because of the depth. Part of the neon effect not only comes from the material formulation but also the angle of viewing so the fact that when you see the effect with mine you are roughly viewing from an average of 45° angle. And also would leave an 1/8" wide groove with only a 1/32" left of material holding it there and that would make the lens effectively a knockout piece with one good bump on the face. Another reason is I don't think he will be able to find neon material in 1/16th inch. I had a hard time even finding 1/16" Smoke. The only reason I did is down here in Fort Lauderdale is there are a few airplane remodelers here and they are one of the biggest purchasers of it. They use it for some kind of windows inside the Leer type jets. From rob at empeg.com Mon May 5 05:39:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: _Probably because it's awaiting approval by the Department of Redundancy Department. _ I decided to change "strategy for Europe" as it sounded too much like the Eurovision song contest, but then I forgot to erase one of the words. Of course it could be that DNNA also have a European strategy for Asia.. _And was it like that before you guys had this crazy idea to start a company, in the UK, that made car MP3 players?_ Although the market was a little better then (the retailers hadn't been scared off yet!) I don't think Hugo and Steve really gave it any thought - the plan was to sell a couple of hundred players in total! It wasn't intended that empeg would become a long term proposition. The other day Mike found the email from Hugo inviting him to come and work on some software for a new car MP3 player - it assured him he wouldn't be needed for more than a couple of months :-) Rob From rob at empeg.com Mon May 5 05:47:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Apple's selling music! 99c per song. Message-ID: eCos - an excellent OS for embedded applications. I believe it was even developed here in Cambridge (at least we keep seeing RedHat guys in the Wrestlers wearing eCos shirts). Rob From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 08:00:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:00:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Greetings! Why is there something wonderfully appropriate having a smoke lens for the empeg's airfoil fascia design made out of the same stuff used for Leer jet windows??? From DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 08:19:00 2003 From: DarkStorm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DarkStorm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Greetings my Best Online Friend! In answer to your question.... Karma for such a near perfect product? Best answer I can think of. :-D From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 08:53:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Tony, Thanks for the FAQ citation and all the explanations. No, I don't think I noticed this in 2.0b13. But then again, I only used b13 for about 2 hours before returning to 1.03, which I've been using for 6 months. If there IS logic to which item shows as selected vs. which item really is selected, I'd love to know because then I'd learn it and get on with it. But until then, haha, I'll just have my eyes off the road more trying to make the simple switch from Scope to Soundflag or trying to switch from Line to Track. Oh, and genexia, Transient mode rocks. But, is there a way to pop the track name back on the screen while listening to the track? Like, pause/unpause? No, I haven't read the documentation yet, so I don't know. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 09:13:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: *^_^* ALL our menus have DIFFERENT bugs in, and NOBODY noticed! For whatever it's worth, the intended behaviour for the Shuffle menu is that if shuffle were on when you went into the menu, the item you'd see first would be Off. If shuffle were off when you went into the menu, the item you'd see first would be the most recent form of shuffle you'd used. This makes it easiest to toggle Shuffle on and off. Under no circumstances should the relative positions of the items change. But a quick look at the code for 2.0final shows that this just isn't what the code does }:-( The behaviour for Visuals should probably be to show you the current one first (unlike Shuffle, most use of the visuals menu is not just to turn visuals on or off). For Repeat and Info (Info is just another kind of visual, as far as the menus are concerned) what to do is less clear cut -- any offers? I'm inclined to make Repeat work like Shuffle, and Info work like Visuals. This would all get fixed in a 2.01 release, if/when we do one. Peter From djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 09:45:00 2003 From: djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (djc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: ALL our menus have DIFFERENT bugs in, and NOBODY noticed! hmm, sounds like you need some fresh blood on the alpha team. ;-) --dan. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 10:04:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: hmm, sounds like you need some fresh blood on the alpha team.No, sounds like Murphy's Law is still in effect: the one person here who caught this was the one not running the beta. From TigerJimmy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 12:50:00 2003 From: TigerJimmy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (TigerJimmy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Old thread I can't find... Message-ID: TTS clock should probably be on the list. I just read about the new version(s)... From Chip at jungle.net Mon May 5 12:53:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: :P From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 13:56:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: peter: Thanks for the clarifications. The toggle-centric design of the Shuffle menu you described is implemented well by moving the Off item to the right of the currently selected Shuffle state. I, personally, would rather eventually memorize the Shuffle item order and know that, say, Off was two to the right of "By year" (is it?). Perhaps Shuffle could be more toggle oriented through a HiJack button remap; ie: press-hold down toggles Info but maybe HiJack could change it to toggle Shuffle. It would be ideal if Repeat, Info, and Visuals (and any others, including Shuffle maybe) all showed the current state when you entered the menus, as they do in 1.03. Users could learn the menus and then know how to get from the current state to the new state easily (and without looking). mlord: By the way, HiJack friggin rocks after just the base install. I can't wait to read up and learn what it can do. FerretBoy: Haha, that and maybe there's a rule about being hyper-aware to these new-fangled things when stepping out of a stone-age version. Gets me EVERY time. Just wait till I upgrade my Windows 95 to XP. From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 14:24:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: hmm, sounds like you need some fresh blood on the alpha team. You had just as much of a chance to catch it in Beta 13 as everyone else did. I just checked the release notes for Beta 13. July 2002. Nearly a year it's been out. I dunno if it really was public on that date or if it was a bit later than that. My point is that the entire installed base of empeg owners pounded on it for months (not just the alpha team), and no one noticed this until now. I don't meant to sound like I'm taking offense, I'm just trying to point out a logical fallacy in the statement. The point of having an alpha team is to catch the real show-stoppers before the larger beta group gets the software. We're not supposed to catch everything, that's what public betas are for. FireFox: Next time, don't be so shy about running the betas. Perhaps stuff like this would get caught and fixed sooner if folks like you ran betas more often. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 14:28:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Oh, and genexia, Transient mode rocks. But, is there a way to pop the track name back on the screen while listening to the track? Press the Select Mode button on the remote control. But there's an even better way: My favorite way to run the player is to have it toggle between TRACK mode and TRANSIENT mode. I leave it on Transient mode most of the time, then when I want to see song details during the middle of the song, I press and hold the bottom button on the faceplate to toggle it. You can also use Hijack to set your knob-presses to cycle through all the info modes if you like. From djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 14:33:00 2003 From: djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (djc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:01:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: hey now, i was just teasing. it wasn't meant to be a logical statement, it was meant to be a joke. that's why the wink was there. seriously, my guess is that most of us set up the visual/info settings the way we like them, and then rarely change them. i can't remember the last time i went into the visual menus, and i wouldn't be surprised if many other users behave the same way. --dan. From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 14:36:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: seriously, my guess is that most of us set up the visual/info settings the way we like them, and then rarely change them. Yup. Agreed. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 14:43:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: MMm.. sounds good, Rob. And the curry also (but does it have to be green?) :-) I just did a trial flight booking, and got all of the days/flights I wanted. I'm going to fly United-First to LHR via IAD (Dulles) about a week ahead of the meet, and show up in Cambridge at some point Thursday or Friday for a visit. Hopefully Hugo or someone can squeeze me into their boot for the trip over to Amersfoorte for the meet. After that, I'm trying to hook up with Speedy67 for a few days near the German/Swiss/French border, and then fly from Zurich to Paris (via FRA) for the weekend. Return flight on United-First from CDG home again via IAD on Tues or Weds. Thanks to everyone here for your help this far! Suggestions?? From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 15:04:00 2003 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: FireFox: Next time, don't be so shy about running the betas. Perhaps stuff like this would get caught and fixed sooner if folks like you ran betas more oftenPerhaps he didn't want to use buggy versions of the software. ;-) We were always pretty careful about public beta versions, but I still suspect that a silent majority of owners have never used a beta version, and a fair minority (at least once new players shipped with 1.x) have never applied an upgrade at all... Peter From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 15:07:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: I'd say that that's less likely for the empeg than most upgradable consumer products, as the majority of people who found the empeg at all probably found it because they were computer geeks looking for the product in the first place. It's not like it was commercially advertised anywhere. From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 15:11:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Hopefully Hugo or someone can squeeze me into their boot for the trip over to Amersfoort. Oh, I think they could give you more comfortable accommodations than that. I mean, at worst, they could put you in the trunk. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 15:36:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Perhaps he didn't want to use buggy versions of the software. I think it's a double standard to panic about bugs after the product goes final, after deliberately avoiding a ten-month chance to help locate the bugs and even offer some input into the development process. The final 2.0 software was heavily shaped by input from people on this BBS, and I think that's the coolest thing in the world. I just feel like FireFox may be trying to close the barn door after the horse has run off to the pub. It's one thing if the betas are closed and the final product costs money. Then it's OK to panic after you buy it. :-) FireFox: What made you remove beta 13? It was really stable, and had so many more features than 1.03. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 18:13:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: I really gotta run, so no time for captions just yet. Here are the pics I took yesterday: http://www.spmicro.com/gallery/empegmeet_050403 From altman at empeg.com Mon May 5 18:41:00 2003 From: altman at empeg.com (Hugo Fiennes) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I suspect I'm going in the NSX, which will be full of myself < Claire... and the trunk isn't very hospitable; if the Noble's ready by then, that's even worse as it doesn't *have* a trunk (front or rear)... or even a glovebox. Someone else with a more sensible car may have room, though... Hugo From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 18:43:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Got Tickets! Message-ID: Okay, all booked and ready to go! Here's the plan: Ottawa, Canada 27-June-2003 AC336 (5a) YOW -< IAD 2:35pm-4:04pm UA918 (2a) IAD -< LHR 5:50pm-5:55am 28-June-2003 London < Cambridge, U.K. 04-July-2003 Ride with Empeg crew from Cambridge to Amersfoort Amersfoort, The Netherlands 06/07-July-2003 Ride with Thomas Gabel from Amersfoort to Schliengen, Germany. German, French, Swiss Alps 11-July-2003 LH3705(6a) ZRH -< FRA 2:55pm-4:05pm LH4076(7a) FRA -< CDG 5:20pm-6:30pm Paris, France 15-July-2003 UA915 (2j) CDG -< IAD 1:00pm-3:25pm AC337 (5a) IAD -< YOW 4:55pm-6:21pm Ottawa, Canada Cheers From cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 19:10:00 2003 From: cwillenbrock at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cwillenbrock@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Yes..thanks to Rob for putting it together, and to CHiP and the whole cast of characters that were generous enough to transport me to and from the meet. Regarding your woes with 2.0, I'm glad I could...help? I'm sorry it didn't work out to be as smooth a transistion as you were hoping for. Hopefully you'll love it, once you get the kinks worked out and find everything you need. It was great meeting everyone. I look forward to doing it again sometime. From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 19:24:00 2003 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Sorry I missed it. I ended up getting out of 30th Street Station later than I thought, backtracking to Essington for my car, and after making a stop, playing games on the Surekill and in Fairmount Park it had gotten late enough that I figured I should go home and deal with a work problem that came up. Stupid work. From rob at empeg.com Mon May 5 19:41:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Mon May 5 22:02:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I'll be taking the Supra and currently have a spare front seat, and in theory a couple of rears should any midgets wish to travel (but Hugo already has a ride!). There should be at least another couple of cars going from Cambridge, so no problem. Rob From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 19:47:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Good! I'll be in touch closer to the dates. Thanks Rob! From tfabris at jps.net Mon May 5 19:54:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: in theory a couple of rears should any midgets wish to travel (but Hugo already has a ride!). Good thing I wasn't drinking tea just then. :-) From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 20:22:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: NY meet Message-ID: Rob - Thanks for organising the meet, and also for supplying the CD opener as a prize, now I'm going to have to go and buy some CDs to test it on ;-) Thanks also to whoever it was (Chris?) that also donated an empeg sticker. It was great meeting everyone who turned up, although as usual, it was too short for me to remember everyone's name or BBS handle! (I'm crap with that - apologies to you all). The steak and beer was superb. It was somewhat amusing hearing the time announced loudly every few minutes in the car park - ironic that I then then somehow lost track of an hour later on the afternoon *^_^* Now just who was it that had that milling machine in their basement? From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 20:38:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Tony: Thanks for the tips on Track vs. Transient. With a little more fiddling, I confirmed what you said about "Holding the Down button toggles between the last used "visual info" (ie: Transient, Off) and the last used "full screen info" (ie: Seek Tool, Track). Phew, one panic gone. Yeah, and the Hijack Knob thing is awesome. From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 20:46:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Tony: I remember that 2.0b13 was better than 1.03 because I tried it for a time. But my reason for sticking with 1.03 was twofold: One - I'd read somewhere that "It's better to do your initial upload of your MP3s using 1.03; the more stable version." So, I decided to keep with 1.03 until that was done. 6 months later, I'm only half done uploading my MP3s so.... Two - I figured I'd better tame 1.03 before jumping into 2.0b13. I tried b13 but it was so intense, that I just backed down to 1.03 to get the hang of things. However, peter: Oh yeah, I forgot. the third reason I didn't upgrade earlier was because the beta versions were always changing so much (it seemed). I wanted to get a final version, learn it, and get really good with it. I seem to remember that the Seek Tool was being redone between every beta and I thought, "Dang, if I have to relearn the software after each beta, I'll get so confused." So, while I knew the software was stable, I just didn't want to confuse my small brain. Tony: djc: > Good thing I wasn't drinking tea just then Cor blimey, I'm gettin' bloody confused 'ere.... An American drinking tea, surely that's not right? And to top it all the empeg people whose cars have "trunks" fitted?! :-) :-) From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 22:51:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I don't think we've established whether it's hot tea or iced tea, though. Also, how does one take one's car from the UK to the Continent? Ferry? Car tunnel I don't know about? From Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:03:00 2003 From: Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Meatballman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Don't quote me on this, but I think you can drive your car onto a train car designed for that purpose through the Chunnel. From Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:05:00 2003 From: Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Meatballman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:03:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Cincinnati Meet - Vote for the date Message-ID: bump. Have you decided on a date Laura? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:14:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Ah, so pretty much halfway between my two options. :-) From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:22:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Cincinnati Meet - Vote for the date Message-ID: My compadres and I in South Carolina are hoping to reunite at the meet since I'm moving to Oklahoma. Plus this year I'm available for geocaching. :-) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:33:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Well, I'm pissed (literally), and also that I didn't make it down for the meet (and climbing!). Oh well. We'll all have to meet up in Amersfoort instead. Cheers! From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon May 5 23:37:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: < Um, sorry. I have been so busy with the remodeling going on in my house and all the running around to find what I needed that I kind of forgot all about the meet. In a few weeks it will all be over with and things will get back to normal so then I'll be able to devote the time I need to make the plans. From lothar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 00:27:00 2003 From: lothar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (lothar@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Painted Mark Lord Dock - Pictures! Message-ID: Ok. Some post-painted pics of my dock if anyone is interested! Warning, 1.5MB hi-res pics! pic 1 here and pic 2here Uh... woah... I dunno what happened there, but your images are loading directly into the frame, presumably from your server somewhere, making your warning a little too late. :P Can you replace those 1.5 Meg images with thumbnails, and links to the big ones? That'll save those without broadband from taking a beating... Thanks From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 01:07:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon May 5 22:04:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: (Note to self... never believe Hugo's time estimates.) ;-) From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 02:04:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:00:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Options; Channel Tunnel, drive your car onto the train. Probably expensive. Dover - Calais ferry. ~4 hour crossing IIRC, Leaves you with a bit of a drive to Holland. Dover - Ostende ferry. ~4 hour crossing, leaves you just over the border from Holland. Not sure if it still runs, Harwich - Hook of Holland ferry. ~11 hours From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 04:52:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:00:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Depending on location, also: Hull - Rotterdam < Zeebrugge Newcastle - Amsterdam Overnight, must book a cabin From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 04:58:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:00:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Also, how does one take one's car from the UK to the Continent? Ferry? Car tunnel I don't know about? Assuming that you mean a UK hire car, I seem to remember reading that the hire companies, discourage it and charge a lot extra. It may be cheaper to fly/go as a foot passenger and get another hire car in Holland(for one thing the steering wheel's on the correct side). From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 06:20:00 2003 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Tue May 6 22:00:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: > Not sure if it still runs, Harwich - Hook of Holland ferry. ~11 hours Or you can take the HSS from Harwich to the Hook, which takes 3-4 hours. See here. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 06:24:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:00:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Cincinnati Meet - Vote for the date Message-ID: Greetings! Moving to OK? From maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:09:00 2003 From: maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maverick@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Is there a way to set a different EQ curve for each source (like the main player, and the aux in source)? I have an input that does not match the volume of the player, so when I switch between sources, there's a big volume difference. Plus one source has more bass, etc. So if there was a way to just set EQ settings for each individually, that would be perfect. I do have HiJack installed. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:26:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: There's a bunch of "volume_boost_XXX" parameters for config.ini courtesy of Hijack, to help with the volume aspect. But I dunno about the EQ stuff. Cheers From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:27:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Agreed... I use my aux for my stock radio and cd player. It really doesn't have the volume it should. Any ideas? From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:31:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: As Mark stated, hijack has the ability to adjust the volume per source. There isn't currently any method of changing eq's per source. One thing to be aware of is that FM mode (only) has a 6dB bass boost by default. Hijack also contains a switch to turn this off. It's probable that when I rework the bass/treble controls in the near future that this bass boost will go away. (Although I might find a way to keep it there...) From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:32:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Cincinnati Meet - Vote for the date Message-ID: I leave for Oklahoma on Friday (that's where I'm from). I'll be living in a small town called Ada for a while and then later in one of several larger cities. I haven't decided which yet. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:38:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Cincinnati Meet - Vote for the date Message-ID: Greetings! Ah. Didn't know you came from there originally, and it just seemed to be a rather random destination point. Good luck with the move! From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 10:54:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Assuming that you mean a UK hire carNo. I was just curious. It looks like I won't be able to make it again, due to lack of funds. }:-( From somewhereth at sflat Tue May 6 11:54:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Channel Tunnel (Chunnel) drive straight on (usually), takes 40 minutes to France, drive straight off. Fast, but expensive (+25%) Dover Calais - 75 mins crossing, 3.5 hours on motorways direct to Amersfoort. We normally do this and can make it London - Amersfoort in 7 hours. Dover Oostend - 3.5 hours crossing, about 2.5 hours to Amersfoort. The boats are not as nice, and the distance/time is about the same. Harwich Hoek van Holland - about 3.5 hours on the HSS (superb! We went on the bridge last time, like a massive speed boat, all controlled by video consoles and two joysticks. Has two Boeing 747 engines to power the water jet thrusters. Brill!!!!) with about 1 hour to Amersfoort, all motorway. We usually choose Dover Calais boat if we want to go to SE/SW England, and Harwich Hoek if we want to go to the Midlands/East. Plus we have shares in P < O which makes it a lot cheaper via Calais :-) From somewhereth at sflat Tue May 6 11:57:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: Thank you sir. Hope it's still looking as good as it did then! From bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 12:04:00 2003 From: bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bxgurl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:01:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: a couple of rears should any midgets wish to travel (but Hugo already has a ride!). Question how tall is Hugo? You people seem to devote an awfully large number of posts to picking on his vertical challenge. He doesn't look that small in pictures. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 12:15:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: It's been posted before, but this is Hugo standing behind a stack of empegs: From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 12:45:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: What's the word guys? I'm driving down from Oklahoma for this one... I'd like to combine it with business if possible. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 12:59:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: Yes, I'd like some more info too. My wife really wants me to firm up a date. From pca at empeg.com Tue May 6 13:05:00 2003 From: pca at empeg.com (pca@empeg.com) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: > It's been posted before, but this is Hugo standing behind a stack of empegs: ...on a box. ;-) pca From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 13:06:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: I'd be interested in a separate EQ setting when switching from the player to the tuner. I typically only listen to talk radio through the tuner and I end-up changing the EQ everytime I switch the source from player to tuner. It would be great if there was a config.ini deal where "source=tuner then EQ=X". $.02 From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 13:06:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: It sure is ! I get to enjoy it every single day ! From skibum at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 13:15:00 2003 From: skibum at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (skibum@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: Rob, will you be doing 'leds kit installs while you wait' at the euro meet? From crazymelki at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 13:39:00 2003 From: crazymelki at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (crazymelki@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Got Tickets! Message-ID: So you have to pass Berne (Swiss capital city) too.... :-) Let me know! The train form Berne - Zurich takes about an hour. bye From altman at empeg.com Tue May 6 13:43:00 2003 From: altman at empeg.com (Hugo Fiennes) Date: Tue May 6 22:02:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I'm 5'7" (taller than Tom Cruise). I'm still the smallest guy in the office - but only just... Toby's pretty close... Hugo From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 14:08:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Got Tickets! Message-ID: Will you be at Amersfoort this year? Thomas < I may try to find you in Bern regardless at some point! Cheers From crazymelki at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 14:18:00 2003 From: crazymelki at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (crazymelki@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Got Tickets! Message-ID: I am really not sure, if I go to Amersfoort! The distance between Tom's Schliengen and Berne is about 1.5 hours. But as you was writing, regardless of the meeting you are welcome. bye From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 14:35:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Hey Tony! Are you coming to Amersfoort? Good use for any frequent flier points you might have piled up. Cheers From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 14:52:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Well, theoretically, since we now know the format of the dynamic data parition (where the EQ settings are stored), it should be possible to achieve this through hijack. I'm a bit wary of doing it immediately; 1) IIRC, There's already some EQ jiggery-pokery going on within hijack when we change sources because of the current Bass/Treble implementation. Since re-implementing Bass/Treble to use the DSP's inbuilt tone controls is next on my to-do list, this issue (if it does exist) will go away. 2) I'm very conciously aware of the existence of 3.0a1 amongst the alpha team, which promises 'exciting new functionality'. Not being on the alpha team means that I don't have any visibility into what they are, and I doubt that anyone on the alpha team could tell me (NDA). I wouldn't want to implement this if it's already in the pipeline. If Rob (or any other Empeg official) wants to confirm that it's not a feature in 3.0 then I'll put it on my list. From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 15:19:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Something Genixia and I have already discussed was the idea of allowing the bass and treble boost/cut to be configurable per-song (via a tag in the comment field, interpreted by proc/notify). I could see this being done for AM, FM and Aux as well. Thing is, after removing the bass boost for FM, and adjusting the relative volume level of Aux, FM, and AM with Hijack, I find that I don't desire a different EQ setting for these things now. Nor do I want a different EQ per genre for the MP3s. As long as your system is EQ'd well, all music should sound pretty good on it. Although I could see needing to reduce bass on the Aux input for a portable CD player (since they boost bass anyway). The only reason I want a per-song adjustment it to correct for a few poorly-mastered albums in my collection. I wouldn't use it all over the map. For example, I'd just reduce treble by 3db on The Fixx's "Shuttered Room" remaster. I think this would be much easier to manage than a per-song EQ or a per-input EQ. Just one or two values for bass or treble boost/cut. Very simple. I'd hate to have to come up with a completely different EQ setting for each situation. Once the EQ is dialed in well, I don't think you need more than a slight adjustment of bass or treble for a given source or song. From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 15:23:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Hey Tony! Are you coming to Amersfoort? Considering it. Considered it last year and didn't, maybe it'll happen this year. Should get on the ball and get organized if I'm going to do it... From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 15:53:00 2003 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: Mark, Thanks for the tip. I basicaly read the whole Hijack FAQ last night so I'm going to look into the ir_translate settings. So maybe stuff like "favorite visual" and "VisualSeek" will help me overcome my panic of the 2.0 transition. Thanks again. From marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:06:00 2003 From: marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (marria01@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: In reply to:We normally do this and can make it London - Amersfoort in 7 hours Wow, it can take that long to do London to Manchester sometimes! :-) From lamer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:20:00 2003 From: lamer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (lamer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Painted Mark Lord Dock - Pictures! Message-ID: Where to order the aluminum face plate? I found a couple of threads with lots of references and pictures, but no info on how to get my grubby little hands on one ;-) Cory From djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:22:00 2003 From: djc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (djc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:03:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Painted Mark Lord Dock - Pictures! Message-ID: click on the "fascia" link at the top of the page. --dan. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:23:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Painted Mark Lord Dock - Pictures! Message-ID: Greetings! Click on the "Fascia" link in the BBS header. It will take you right there. You need to order by email, but that is the site with all of the information. Is 303 still travelling at the moment? Edit: If a version 3.0 is in the works, where can we send comments on possible features or changes? Cory From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:50:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: That'd be the Wish List forum on this very BBS. From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 16:52:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: As my doppelganger says, Wish List forum. But make sure to do a search to see if it's been wished for before and if there are any responses to it. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 16:56:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: As my doppelganger says, YES! For those keeping score: tfabris: 93,267 yn0t_: 2 Don't call it a comeback... From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 18:55:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: > "As long as your system is EQ'd well, all music should sound pretty good on it." Tony, This is true for _Music_, but I use my tuner to listen to Talk Radio almost 100% of the time. I find that the treble end of the EQ settings needs to be significantly reduced. Right now, when I toggle back and forth, I usually have to change from "Flat" EQ (for radio) to my custom setting (for music) or vise versa. Sometimes I get lazy and don't bother, which leaves me listening to music with a "Flat" EQ or Talk Radio with annoying high tones. Since I switch back and forth from Tuner to Player alot during commercials, a "source=x then EQ=x" would be an awesome option for me. From rob at empeg.com Tue May 6 19:24:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: It's an easy journey as well - an hour of driving from Cambridge to Harwich, then four hours of sitting around playing blackjack on the HSS, then another hour or so from Hook of Holland to Amersfoort. Rob From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 19:30:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: This is true for Music, but I use my tuner to listen to Talk Radio almost 100% of the time. As do I. I have no trouble going back and forth between AM or FM talk radio and MP3s. It's all in getting the system tweaked and EQ'd just right. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 19:35:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I have just ripped all my Cd's for a third time Using Music Match Jute box (I know its not the best one out there but its a one step program and I have nearly 600 cd's to ripp) Here is the Issue I have music Match Version 7.5 I have it set to custom quality 320Kbs and Maxium Bandwidth is set at 22K (the Max) My Empeg is feeding a Pioneer DEQ-9200 then out ot a PPI PCX-4125 feed two pairs of Diamond Audio S600 Speakers and a pair of PCX-2400 Bridged mono and each one Feeding a 12 Diamond Audio TDX 12D4 sub hits Like a Turbo Charged Jack Hammer but the Music seems to be missing something.. I have fiddgeted with the Setting on the Eq and found the most pleasent one to use but when I listen to the same music off the Cd's at home they seem much warmer and have more depth.. Any Suggestions ??? From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 19:43:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: but when I listen to the same music off the Cd's at home they seem much warmer and have more depth.. What about when you plug a CD player into the car amplifier? Or when you plug your empeg into your home stereo? By trying to compare your home stereo to your car stereo, you're not comparing apples to apples. And even then, there will be a slight difference between the empeg and the CD player as described here. There are also two other issues that may change the response of your car player here and here. From Derek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 19:56:00 2003 From: Derek at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Derek Ward) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: yeah, c'mon!! Get your A into G and get over here! :-) From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 20:12:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Empeg has been EOL'd!? Message-ID: Only another 12,602 posts to go before you over take him on the BBS... :-) - Trevor From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 21:28:00 2003 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] null modem cable Message-ID: im having trouble finding one online to order. can anyone point me to somebody that actually has db9 male to db9 male. i can find m/f f/f but not m/m. perhaps im not looking hard enough From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 21:38:00 2003 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: How about this? :-) From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 21:41:00 2003 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:04:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: empeg is m/m right? since im unable to find m/m i may have to buy a cable and adaptor. null modem adaptor and straight through cable seems that it would be most practical in that case. From tfabris at jps.net Tue May 6 21:42:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: empeg is m/m right? Empeg is M, computer DB9 port is M, so the cable must be F/F. (IIRC) From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 21:45:00 2003 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: For empeg use you'd need a F/F null modem cable. Serial ports themselves are Male connections. Edit: I should say, not just for empeg use, but for anything requiring a serial port -< serial port connection with a null modem cable. :-) From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 21:46:00 2003 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: damn my virgin ways. that makes the search _so_ much easier From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 22:38:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: /me tries not to think about that out of context... From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 22:40:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: OK I listen to the song Kid Rock Forever On my home stereo and playing through my Empeg on the home Stereo Volume is down about 25% (aprox Empeg is set to Zero) and I don't have a O-scope but my ear says the music above about 11K to ??? seems to be about 3 db lower on the Empeg Vs the Oringal CD.. I based that on the volume level of the Tamboren(sp) you can hear in the back ground on that song its pretty Steady sound. Its almost like the Frequency Responce on the Empeg or the Mp3's is being Clipped on the low and high end. I don't have a CD player in the car so I can't do the Other Thing you suggested. My Empeg is Serial Number 080000406 Anyone have Written Numbers on what the Frequency Responce of the Empeg is ?? or suggestions on a Setting for Music match or a Different All in one Ripping program that I can try ? From matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 22:55:00 2003 From: matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (matthew_k@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Substandard mp3 encoders are known for having a high freqeuncy rolloff which could be causing some of what you're hearing. I'd say your next best step is to Download EAC/Lame, and rip your demo again, making sure to keep the wav file. The load the wav, the lame mp3, and your orginal mp3 and compare them and see what you think. If the wav file sounds "right", then it's the mp3 compression. If the way file has the same differences, then it's still probably something you can solve with the equalizer. In the long run EAC might not be one click, but it really isn't labor intensive and will probably save you from ripping all your CDs again. Matthew From trs24 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue May 6 22:58:00 2003 From: trs24 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (trs24@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: I wasn't going to say it. ;-) - trs From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 00:17:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I downloaded Lame and Installed it tried to Punch a hole in my firewall with a Applet called mbb I removed it and all pointers to the mbb applet Any other Programs I can try that are not back doors From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 00:18:00 2003 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Must be someone's bizarro Windows port or some crap. The good old fashioned unix "lame" encodes mp3s and does nothing else. Silly windows people, Trix are for kids. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 00:53:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Anyone have Written Numbers on what the Frequency Responce of the Empeg Woo-hoo...I beat Tony! From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 01:00:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I see Numbers for "Aux input frequency response 20Hz to 18KHz " but I don't see them for the empeg it self. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 01:29:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue May 6 22:05:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Well the DSP analogue outputs are bandwidth spec'd at 20Hz - 22KHz, (-3dB points). I don't know if the output stage after that has any more restrictive bandwidth limitations. I do know that I've output a 17KHz tone and got a reading on my RatShack meter, but since I was using a crappy set of soundcard speakers it wasn't even worth applying the microphone correction curve and crunching the numbers. I suppose that I could use a multimeter to take a measurement at some point, but 17KHz is the highest that I could measure using this technique (the sinewave generator in the DSP tops out at 17KHz). Anyway I'm fairly condfident that there wouldn't be any artificial post DSP limitations below 17KHz, and considering that I can only just hear that and also that you are talking about audible problems around the 11KHz range, I'd suggest that the empegs hardware is not causing the problem that you are seeing^H^H^H^H^H^Hhearing. From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 02:09:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:00:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: but my ear says the music above about 11K to ??? seems to be about 3 db lower on the Empeg Vs the Oringal CD.. Did you even CLICK on the links I gave? From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 02:16:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:00:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: damn my virgin ways. You know, I always wondered what the deal was with naming connectors in that way. Did the people doing the naming just assume that children wouldn't ever be interested in learning about electronics? Or did that naming convention come from a less-sexually-repressed culture? My personal pet theory: Once upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks, and therefore obsessed with that sort of thing... From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 02:22:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:00:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I'd say your next best step is to Download EAC/Lame, and rip your demo again, making sure to keep the wav file. Then load the wav,Beelzebub: This is the best advice so far. If you want to do audio frequency response tests, don't use MP3s. Rip one test track to a WAV file, raw, without any MP3 encoding as part of the process (i.e., don't decode an MP3 and think you've made a good WAV). Since the empeg can play pure WAV files, it can play files which are bit-for-bit identical to the audio that your CD player is reading. So use WAV files for testing. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 02:28:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:00:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Yes I will take the Empeg apart and Check for the 2 caps and the Mis marked resistior in the morning (can't find my allen Wrench right now) From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 02:29:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:00:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Yes I will take the Empeg apart and Check for the 2 caps Right, but before looking for the two caps, did you read all of the preceding text? About how your encoder might be doing high frequency rolloff? From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 02:32:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: 11khz was a Guess I don't have an O-scope and I am not really sure what the frequency is I know its way too high for bass its the sound a tamboreen(sp) makes what ever that frequency is. I am re ripping the Test song with Lame (dang EAC and Lame are Much slower to rip them MMJB) From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 02:35:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Dang Tony don't you sleep :-) Yes I have read them many times and I have adjusted MMJB to not Roll off till 22k From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 08:26:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: You know, I always wondered what the deal was with naming connectors in that way.I think it's just the obvious metaphore; we all would have thought it whether we heard someone say it or not. From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 09:54:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I've had EAC and run several spy/adware programs and they've never detected anything evil from EAC (both Adaware and Spybot Search and Destroy). Perhaps the applet was the querying mechanism for album information (freedb client)? Just a thought. It's a solid program and I'll be sad if spyware's the route they've taken recently. I've never read anything about EAC having spyware on board. -Zeke From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:07:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Once upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks Once upon a time? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:27:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: I'd say a lot of IT people still are. Considering all of the IT exhibitions I've been to have had women wearing not very much handing out leaflets etc... At the one I went to recently, one company actually had a platform above their stand for dancers. I'm still trying to work out how this is related to secure networking... - Trevor From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:32:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Surely ifOnce upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks, by now there would be nobody left who was interested in electronics, because the geeks, being undersexed, would not have bred a further generation? Give mwest his old posts! Now! From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:44:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: Hmm. Sanity check the 'Doh!' factor. Do you have hijack installed? Have you confirmed that you don't have any Bass or Treble adjustment set? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:50:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:01:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: undersexedI think by ``undersexed'', Tony meant ``not getting any'', and not ``uninterested in sex'', which would be the more normal (read: ``correct'') definition. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 10:51:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: At the one I went to recently, one company actually had a platform above their stand for dancers. I'm still trying to work out how this is related to secure networking... Were they handing out condoms? From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 11:11:00 2003 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Were they handing out condoms?I saw an advert card in Viz once which said something like "Protection, without compromising performance". When you unfolded it, it was an advert for 3com IPSEC-offload network cards. I don't know what surprised me more, that 3com felt it worthwhile to advertise IPSEC-offload cards in Viz, or that they managed to produce an advert so in keeping with the risque content of the comic. Peter From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 11:23:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Tony meant ``not getting any'', and not ``uninterested in sex'' Surely, the end result would be the same, whatever the reason: No procreation. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 11:33:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Surly taking about procreation with a subject line of "null modem cable" should give some credence to Tony's characterization of IT people. However, I still think the terms evolved because they fit the physical objects better than any other metaphor. The first time I ever heard anyone speak of the “male” end of a cable I knew exactly what was being meant. Also (though I’m sure this has nothing to do with cables really) I believe the word “male” comes from a word meaning “peircer” and female comes from a word meaning “pierced”. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 11:39:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Surely, the end result would be the same, whatever the reason: No procreation.Well, the big difference would be whether the geek is uninterested or everyone else is uninterested. If it's the latter then someone is liable to be interested eventually. Then again, there are fifty year old virgins in the world, and I imagine that most of them are geeks. (You'd think that it'd be time to to just cut your losses and pay for it by then, though.) From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 11:58:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: No but one company were giving out branded boxer shorts... - Trevor From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:14:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: someone is liable to be interested eventually So geeks procreating is a bit like chimps writing Beethoven, give 'em a organ or piano, respectively, and they'll get there eventually From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:19:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Okay, since I first got going on the home docking station project, the value of US currency has dropped significantly, to the point now where I believe my accountant would claim I'm losing significant sums on these. So.. I am now (today) repricing the docks in my home currency (CAD$), at a value closer to (but not quite) the original US$ pricing from last February. This will simplify things for my accountant (no currency calculations to bill me for), as well as for overseas purchasers (who already had to do conversions anyway). But the downside is that USA folks may have to figure out how to do currency conversion in PayPal. It's easy, but somewhat obscured -- I managed it (after a struggle or three!), so it can't be that hard to do! CAD_$190 -- Cool_, with fan CAD_$220 -- Works_, with fan and serial port. CAD_$15 -- AC Adaptor_, original compact RioCar 100-120VAC, 12VDC__@1A Worldwide shipping rates in CAD$, including packaging costs: CAD_$17 -- Shipping to USA (14 days)_, per dock. corrected CAD_$25 -- Express mail (3-5 days) to USA_, per dock. CAD_$37 -- Overseas airmail (7-14 days)_ for one dock. CAD_$66 -- Express mail (3 days) to U.K._,for up to two docks. The "Basic" dock is no longer offered (no demand). If paying with a credit-card in Paypal, they want a 3% cut, so an extra 3% needs to be added on. There's no add-on when paying from a bank account in Paypal or from a Paypal account balance. Just credit-cards. So, for new dock shipments, I will be asking for payment in CAD$ via Paypal. A copy of this posting will be sent to you when your dock is being built. Speaking of which.. SWMBO (aka. SWSNBN) is busy right now with the wiring for 20 docks that should ship out by early next week -- if you are currently one of the top 20 in the shipping queue, you should prime your paypal account now! EDIT: corrected USA shipping amount -- and to think I was once actually considered good at math.. ha! Thanks From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:25:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Exactly! From Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:33:00 2003 From: Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Meatballman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: lol...me neither. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:40:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Greetings! Just curious. I know it is She Who Shall Not Be Named, but what is SWMBO - She Who Might Be Online??? From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:43:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: She Who Must Be Obeyed. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:46:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:02:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Yup, that's the babe! Cheers From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:48:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Cool, I'd never thought of that possible expansion before! But no, it's that obedience thing instead. Let your imagination run (very) wild on that one. ;-) Cheers From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:51:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Let your imagination run (very) wild on that one.Wow, there is totally something in the air lately on this BBS... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 12:54:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: The joys of spring, I guess... :-) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 13:15:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: Kinda, except they'll get there quicker. Even though they're geeks, they've still got some bio programming, and there's similar numbers of each sex who are in the same boat.. eventually they crash into each other. Cheers From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 13:28:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: You should be careful saying things like that here. We all know that you have a nice collection of rope. From BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 13:41:00 2003 From: BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BAKup@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: > You should be careful saying things like that here. We all know that you have a nice collection of rope. /me wipes off Dr Pepper from the monitor. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 13:45:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: ..and we know a lot of interesting and useful knots. ..and we spend a lot of time in the basement workshop together.. ;-) From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 13:45:00 2003 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: I'm still the smallest guy in the officeTaller than Lucie, though. Peter From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Wed May 7 13:54:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: ...and you keep getting tied-up on other "projects" and then we don't hear from you for weeks... From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Wed May 7 13:56:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: It's clear from that photo that Hugo has pulled rank on Lucie by : - making her stand behind him - making her slouch All so that he can appear to be taller than her ;-) From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:02:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: interesting and useful knotsThe sheepshank, for instance? (Fill in your own joke.) From marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:09:00 2003 From: marria01 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (marria01@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Andy, what's your new user title about? I've only just noticed it. From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 14:15:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:03:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Andy, what's your new user title about? I've only just noticed it. Like I said, what goes around, comes around. From draos at 4mate.hr Wed May 7 14:28:00 2003 From: draos at 4mate.hr (Dragi Raos) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: :-D :-D :-D From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:31:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:05 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: I'm not sure but couldn't you use the EQ presets one for each input? Labaled (EQ-Aux,EQ-FM etc). Of course you would have to change it manually from the menu. Maybe Hijack could do it automatically I don't know if this is possible, would be great if it could. From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Wed May 7 14:35:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Like I said, what goes around, comes around I was wondering what was going to come around ;-) ;-) I think I probably deserved it... Now, if I can just manage to hack into Tony's home machine and replace his "you've got mail" wav with Seasons in the Sun ! From maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:45:00 2003 From: maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maverick@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: How do you adjust the different source volumes in Hijack? I looked for this just the other day and didn't see any kind of source volume control. From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 14:51:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: How do you adjust the different source volumes in Hijack? I looked for this just the other day and didn't see any kind of source volume control. Volume_boost Options. From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:53:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: I was not aware that anyone else under the age of 70 had any idea what a sheepshank was.... From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 14:54:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Ooopps.. I've updated the original posting with a more realistic conversion on the USA S Not to mention getting her to stand there in sock feet. ;-) That must be worth at least a few centimetres! From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:00:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Sorry I thought your original post asked if there seperate EQ curves you could set. From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:07:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: null modem cable Message-ID: "All jocks think about is sports. All geeks think about is sex." -Revenge of the Nerds From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:23:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Anyone involved with a scouting program would know that it is a knot used to reduce the length of a rope without cutting it. Good to know, especially if you do not want to cut the rope and "run short" later. From maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:24:00 2003 From: maverick at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maverick@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:04:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: It did, and that's ultimately what I'd like to do. Each source that I'm using needs very different EQ settings. But for now, at least I can get them up to the same volumes! That would be cool if Hijack could change to a different saved EQ setting dependent on the source! From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:30:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: ??? They look like running shoes to me. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:31:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Naw, the black stuff is probably just dirt from kicking all those other folks outside for the photo. ;-) From bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:34:00 2003 From: bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bxgurl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: It's been posted before, but this is Hugo standing behind a stack of empegs: ...on a box. Which would work, if you couldn't see that he's kneeling in the picture. I'm 5'7" (taller than Tom Cruise). And taller than my boyfriend (not by much). And as tall (taller than some) as most of the guys I'm here in Phoenix with. Please, that's not even short. Slightly below average, but not exactly short. If you were 5'2", I'd understand this. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:37:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Please, that's not even short.You're ruining our good time!!! :-p) :-) From bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:39:00 2003 From: bxgurl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bxgurl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: You're ruining our good time!!! So should I go through the photo galleries and mock everyone else's physical shortcomings? That wouldn't be very nice, would it? From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:41:00 2003 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: It's also a very handy kite knot for all kinds of uses. From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:41:00 2003 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Seperate volume/eq for aux? Message-ID: Ditto. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:42:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: But you just said it wasn't a shortcoming. ;-) I don't think anyone would consider this any more than a good-natured ribbing. If any of us got the impression that he was offended by any of this, I'm sure we'd stop. (Fortunately, though, my picture is nowhere to be found.) From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 15:49:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: So should I go through the photo galleries and mock everyone else's physical shortcomings? That wouldn't be very nice, would it? Nah, I gotta agree with Bitt here. There are definitely no Napoleon complexes on this BBS, and I think that with all of the praise we heap upon Hugo and the rest of the empeg team, it's vital that we "cut them down" every now and again. So far, the only thing we've found to rip Hugo about is his height. Sometimes, you just gotta make chicken salad. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 16:14:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: So far, the only thing we've found to rip Hugo about is his height.Is this sort of like when I do tons of work on a new program and the only response I get is "That font is difficult to read at some resolutions." I keep telling myself I should be glad they aren't ripping some real functionality. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 16:24:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Yeah, pretty much the same thing. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 16:39:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:05:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I do not have hijack installed and the EQ settings on the EMpeg are flat From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 16:57:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: and the EQ settings on the EMpeg are flat Exactly. Your CD player, on the other hand, is not flat. From boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 17:20:00 2003 From: boxer at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (boxer@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: EuroMeet 2003 Message-ID: Fortunately, though, my picture is nowhere to be found You mean you're not a fat buddah with a huge left hand - I'm devastated! From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 18:27:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: speaking of Austin, I live here and just voted for June 14-15. I have a 2001 Audi A6 2.7T that i just put my 20gb mk2a into - with 2 problems. the tuner doesn't work and it doesn't go into standby when i turn it off. i've been through all the faqs and consulted with others in the forum, but it's still not working. anyone in austin who has a tuner i could test with would earn themselves a free copy of my 10+GB of punk and alternative music! any takers? From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 18:48:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: I've got the 2001 A4 and I'll tell you what I ended up doing... The tuner, initially, didn't work. This has to do with the original radio powering the antenna. You need to go by audio dimensions or custom sounds and pick up an antenna adapter, make sure it's the adapter with a red wire coming off the side ... this means it will accept power from the blue antenna line coming off the empeg. As for standby when removing the ignition, mine will sometimes stay on for about 5 or 6 seconds after i turn off the ignition, but then it goes into standby. If yours does not, I would investigate the wiring. My guess is that the ignition and battery leads are swapped from the harness. Greg From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 18:53:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Sooners or Laters Message-ID: Long as we don't have any brazen Sooners, I don't care how many Okies come ... we can talk slow for you. ;-) Greg From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:12:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: Greg, thanks for the reply. i do in fact have the adapter you are referring to, but it made no difference. i have the little cable (blue in my case) hooked up to the 12v power connection (tried both constant and ignition sense). I will try hooking it up to the blue wire you mention - i didn't use the extension cable (to keep my wires to a minimum) so that wire isn't present. regardless, i was providing power, so it should have worked. interestingly, when it did work, i had decent reception with no antenna plugged in and even better with just the antenna adapter plugged in (but no power applied, and not actually connected to the antenna - just sort of hanging there). see my threads at http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= about the tuner and http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= about the standby issue. my problem in standby is not that it stays on, but that it cuts off completely. the wiring harness was reversed - but i fixed that. are you in austin? From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:17:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: just my 2 cents here - i just sent a small package to the UK, insured for $100, for about $9 USD. From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:37:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: I'm in Dallas now, unfortunately. I miss Austin so very very much. The room in the dash is so tight that my tuner module was crammed in there against the antenna adapter. I had to pull it out and readjust it a number of times in order to maintain a decent connection on it. Don't know if you're having space issues like I was. Off topic, what did you use for a fascia for your empeg? If I remember right, your dash opening is the same as mine. I ended up having to custom build one out of MDF then cover it in vinyl .. what a pain in the butt. Greb From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:41:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: Relatively speaking, Austin isn't that far from Fredricksburg. I think it's only an hour drive or so. But, naturally, you can say anything you want as long as you throw in the phrase "relatively speaking". See examples: "All Bush Presidents are Fascists, ... relatively speaking." "Margaret Thatcher is soooo hot, ... relatively speaking." Greg From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:45:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Texas Meet Message-ID: i'm testing mine out of the dash, so space isn't an issue at this time. for the external fascia, i bought one online...don't have the company's name right now, but when i get all my problems solved, i'll post all the details, including pics. i attached one here of the finished product From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 19:51:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:06:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Audi Antenna Adapter Message-ID: FYI, here's what my adapter looks like. From what I understand, this is the only one appropriate for newer Audis. http://www.incarexpress.co.uk/images/catalogue/acc/autpc552.jpg From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 20:04:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: HUmmm When I play the way files I get a slight pause 1 or 2 times in durining the song for 1/2 a second or so (is this because the songs are much larger then the 16 megs of memory the Empeg has and it needs to spin up the Hd to read more data ?? From waterman981 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 21:04:00 2003 From: waterman981 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (waterman981@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Weird behavior Message-ID: I have been experiencing weird behavior for a little while. First: I would be driving and hitting next to find a song I like. The player would lock up. Sometimes the song would continue playing. But I could not do anything without cycling the power. Second: Everytime the player boots the current playlist is empty. I would listen to a song, cycle the power, then have nothing ( [-/-] ) at the bottom. This happens both on AC and DC. Number 1 first started with 2.0, but in going back to b13, I still have both problems. With and without Hijack. Also now a down down down takes significantly longer to load, with no new music added. Any ideas? Attached is my serial output with beta13 From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 21:06:00 2003 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: People seem to like visuals. ;-) From tfabris at jps.net Wed May 7 21:14:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Weird behavior Message-ID: Sounds like disk trouble, like a damaged scratch partition, or maybe database trouble. From waterman981 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 21:27:00 2003 From: waterman981 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (waterman981@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Weird behavior Message-ID: Is it repairable? Or am I yet again replacing my disks? From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 21:51:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Tell me more. $100 insurance is not enough for most of the things we ship. I think I can safely lower the price of shipping to $25 for the boards, and will probably be doing so soon. It will take a little longer in transit, but you will save $15. Remember, we have to cover all destinations to anywhere in the world with one flat rate. Stu From zaskar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 21:52:00 2003 From: zaskar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (zaskar@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Just a little while longer Message-ID: What's the latest info on the boards? How much are they going to be? And are you taking preorders or orders when they arrive. From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 22:22:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: I got one of the first digital out boards and the shipping prices weren't that bad IMO. The worst part was getting the customs bill. I think I got stung for around $40 }:-( You can't really do much about that really unless you don't insure it at all. And I've had shipments just disappear so it's not a good idea. Half the time it turns up about 3 months later because somebody somewhere can't read and shipped it to somewhere random. - Trevor From Chip at jungle.net Wed May 7 23:01:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:45 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] chip's photos Message-ID: Here are some of the photos taken with my camera, i'll move them to riocar.org once i get aproval on a gallery. For now, you can reach them at: http://silicon.nac.net/empegmeet1 From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 23:06:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: chip's photos Message-ID: Nice pics! From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 23:07:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:07:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Just a little while longer Message-ID: No preorders. First come first served. The board house website says "Shipping" 100% complete, but there is still another stage before it leaves their facility, even though they are already calling it 100%. Bare PCBs are going to be $15(plus shipping). I have not priced the other components in "large" quantities, but perhaps $55 (plus shipping) for the complete unassembled kit which includes all wire, resistors, transistors, and LEDs. Don't hold me to the kit price just yet. We will be setting up a mailing list by the week's end, so be looking for that. As soon as we are ready to ship the kits and boards you will be notified. Obviously those on the mailiing list will find out about availability first. Stu From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 23:10:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Thanks Trevor for backing me up and sorry about the customs bill. If I knew a way to be sure things wouldn't get confiscated that would save you international orderers money, I would certainly do it. Stu From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed May 7 23:57:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:05 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Darkstorm orders Message-ID: Has anybody received their orders from him yet. I ordered a dock and 4 gels from him quite awhile ago and now can't contacting him is proving difficult. He isn't accepting PM's anymore, the website is down < I'm getting returned emails. Steve are you on here if so can you PM me as to status of my order? Thanks. From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 00:02:00 2003 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:10 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm orders Message-ID: See here, here, and I'm sure a few other places. :-) From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 00:16:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm orders Message-ID: Yes thanks I did see read those posts are you waiting for an order as well or received one lately? I'm more or less trying to see if Steve will answer my post on status. From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 00:18:00 2003 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm orders Message-ID: Ah, I see. I'm not waiting for an order, no. I did receive one a while back, but that was before any of his current circumstances were in place. From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 00:32:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm orders Message-ID: I wouldn't mind so much ordinarily except payment has been made back in January, making it difficult to buy another dock from another maker. From mrfixit at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 00:53:00 2003 From: mrfixit at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mrfixit@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: I had to jump in on this post. When I first got my empeg all I used to encode my cd's was music match, and I usualy encoded at 192kbps. I didn't know what all the hipe was about with eac and lame until I downloaded and used it. Yes eac and lame is slower but thats because it does such a great job. As we speak I am re ripping all my cd's (I hate to say how many) the difference from music match to eac is just no comparison. Even at the highest quality setting of music match just stinks compared to eac and lame. Oh and eac was just trying to download info for your cd from the net it has no spyware or anything like that. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 01:09:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Darkstorm orders Message-ID: We have the reverse situation. Received advance payment for work a couple months ago and are still waiting on the player to be shipped to us so that we can perform that work. Stu From Chip at jungle.net Thu May 8 01:46:00 2003 From: Chip at jungle.net (Steve Hartman) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Displays are in. Message-ID: do you still have any displays left? From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 01:49:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed May 7 22:08:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: The EAC/ Lame I downloaded from www.Downloads.com Tried to open a Port in my firewall and this was at startup before I even inserted a CD or started up the program I have since Downloaded a different version and it doesn't do that. From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 02:20:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:00:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Given the reason the sheepshank came into the conversation in the first place, I find some sections of that animation to be a little... disturbing. From mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 03:17:00 2003 From: mwest at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mwest@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:00:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: For some reason I've always felt that my Scouting experience made me a part of an overwhelming minority, althought there's no support for that. My introduction to the sheepshank was through Scouts and the incredibly cheesy Follow Me Boys. From Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 04:38:00 2003 From: Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Cristian@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:00:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: It's simple to avoid customs charges, send them like mlord does, via the post office. If you send it via a courier to the UK FedEx will charge my approx $15 customs plus VAT plus import duty, so I will end up paying $180 for a $100 part. If you send it via the USPS then it come via royal mail and usually small packages from individuals never get checked and is ony a few pounds at the worst. I think you should look closley at your shipping costs, it is loosing you business. I for one are holding off just because of that. I can understand your reasons as explained earlier in the thread, but I'm sure you can see mine too. Just my 2 cents. Cheers Cris. From Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 04:53:00 2003 From: Meatballman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Meatballman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: For some reason I've always felt that my Scouting experience made me a part of an overwhelming minority an overwhelming minority for scouting, no....for being an Eagle Scout....yes. From frog51 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 05:47:00 2003 From: frog51 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (frog51@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: I learned all my knots through the sea cadets and RYA training - although I agree with you, there are way too many people in the world who can't tie a bowline or even a round turn and two half hitches, let alone figure out a sheepshank. As a kid I thought everyone sailed, but then I did grow up thinking it was normal to sail to see some of my friends on other islands. From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Thu May 8 06:28:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: If you send it via the USPS then it come via royal mail and usually small packages from individuals never get checked and is ony a few pounds at the worst. Unfortunately, out of the dozen or so packages I have had sent to via USPS to the UK, only about 50% of them actually ever arrived. So Fedex works out cheaper for me in the long run anyway... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 06:38:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Displays are in. Message-ID: Greetings! Actually, Noritake messed up the shipment of the last batch, sent to a non-existant mail address (so much for spelling it out to them three times...) and it got returned by UPS to their Chicago office. I have a promise from two different reps that it will be reshipped today to the right address. As to having spares available, I still have a few reservations that I need to fill, including mine. I have ONE spare left. Send me an email with your address as soon as possible, and I will hold it for you. No other orders will be accepted until this batch is completed - I think we have reached a point where there is no longer a significant demand, I have accounted for all of those that I have had ordered / shipped from Japan, and I do not know if Noritake has any left for me to buy... :-) After the last batch arrives, I will post the contact information for the team I have been dealing with for the east coast (US) region. They are very helpful, interested, and did not charge me for the shipment from Japan! One interesting side note: the guy at Noritake was extremely interested in the player. He is a music buff and was curious to know what I was using them for. I described the player to him, and he wanted more information. I sent him links to all of the common sites (this board, empeg.com, riocar.org, my install, etc.). While I don't think he is "hooked" enough to buy one, he did raise an interesting topic... It seems that Noritake gets lots of requests for consultative help from small startups (perhaps as empeg was in the very early days), where groups may be interested in small runs of 100 units and need help getting the displays working / programmed. Noritake, of course, cannot help them. He was wondering if I had a contact that would be interested in consulting for using the displays in real-world applications. I did not give any direct contact information (I know that the folks @ empeg have real jobs), but I told him to send them to this board. So, you might someday see requests for consulting on the displays - I don't know if this is something anyone here would want to deal with (David?, Mark?, Stu?), but I will leave it to you to decide. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 06:42:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: > For some reason I've always felt that my Scouting experience made me a part of an overwhelming minority an overwhelming minority for scouting, no....for being an Eagle Scout....yes. There may be more Eagle Scouts on this board than you might think... From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 08:00:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:01:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Shipping it via the post office won't help. I've had small packages sent and they've also been charged. How likely it is to be charged is based on how much the declared value is from what I hear. If it's low then they don't bother as it's just not worth them doing it. Royal Mail also charges VAT, import duty and a handling fee. So it's pretty much similar to what you'd get charged by FedEx. Annoying aspect of Royal Mail is that if nobody is around to pay the fees when it's delivered, they take it away with them and you have to go to their sorting office to pick it up. FedEx will leave it and just send me a bill later on. It really depends on how busy the customs office is on that particular day... - Trevor From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 08:08:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Nah. You don't need to feel sorry about it. It's the price I pay for buying stuff abroad whilst living in the UK :-) I've not actually installed my digital out board. I've done all of the soldering and mounting of the board but not quite worked out how I can make the holes in the casing. I'm using the coax output via the mic pins until then. :-) - Trevor From mail2mm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 08:52:00 2003 From: mail2mm at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mail2mm@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Shipping USPS vs FedEx Message-ID: I just wanted to backup what Stu, maczrool, said about using the US Postal Service for shipping. Earlier this year I sold a lot of electronic equipment on eBay to buyers in the US and Canada. I gave up on using USPS after repeatedly standing in line, for up to 20 minutes, to mail a simple package. When I used USPS, at the insistance of the buyer, for a package to Canada, they not only could not track the package I paid for tracking on but it disappeared for six weeks between California and Ontario. FedEx just makes life easier, usually reduces my stress over shipping and yes, I pay more but, for me, it is worth it. Michael From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 09:48:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: For your reference (a bit late now), EAC's web page is http://www.exactaudiocopy.de . The source page for LAME is http://www.jthz.com/%7Elame/ . There are several versions of each available. I wonder if Downloads.com bundled up something nasty with it. Regardless, there's a good deal of information on using EAC and LAME on these sites. -Zeke From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 11:03:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: For some reason I've always felt that my Scouting experience made me a part of an overwhelming minority Largest youth organisation in the World. Transcends both politics and religion, and represented in every country bar 5. From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 11:06:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Audi Antenna Adapter Message-ID: yep - mine is the same, but the wire is blue (still +12v). i think i've now concluded the tuner module is bad. this morning for example, it worked, then over the course of about 30 seconds the signal went from great to good to bad to nonexistent - all while i was doing nothing but staring at it. From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 11:24:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: for an example, see http://ircalc.usps.gov/details.asp?txtMaxIndemnity=2020 That's a 1 pound package with $500 insurance and a return receipt for $25. Another example is http://ircalc.usps.gov/details.asp?txtMaxIndemnity=40.45 That's an 8 ounce padded envelope with no special insurance or handling for $6.40 all rates can be found at http://ircalc.usps.gov/ From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Thu May 8 11:29:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: It makes no difference how cheap it is if the package fails to reach it's destination, which has been my experience 50% of the time. From csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 11:49:00 2003 From: csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (csf@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hijack v320 - errno = 13?? Message-ID: Ok, I have the same issue, what do I change to get the permissions correct? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 12:00:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:02:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Transcends both politics and religionOr gets mired in them both at the same time. From Fastrack at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 12:15:00 2003 From: Fastrack at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Fastrack@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hiss, Humm and WHat the parrot saw Message-ID: By far the best ripper/encoder is CDex and it's free, it also comes with the most current version of LAME! It takes a little bit of time to setup (how you want the Filename/ID tags to look etc…, but it's sweet otherwise) Highly recommend: http://www.cdex.n3.net/ From mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 12:24:00 2003 From: mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mtempsch@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Hijack v320 - errno = 13?? Message-ID: Run the command: chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/emphatic or use a FTP client to set the executable bits of the permission bits. /Michael From grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 12:42:00 2003 From: grgcombs at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (grgcombs@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Audi Antenna Adapter Message-ID: Is this an Empeg tuner or one of Patrick's? Greg From Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 12:51:00 2003 From: Neurot at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Neurot@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Audi Antenna Adapter Message-ID: straight from Rio, bought in the fire sale... From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 13:14:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Yeah, on a national level, some Scouting organisations do get bogged down with stuff they shouldn't be involved in. The BSA is particularly bad at this, and also by remaining silent when they shouldn't - I was horrified during the last Presidential Election to see Scouts in uniform on a dais behind Dubya. This wasn't a scouting event where Dubya was effectively saying 'I believe in Scouting' but a political event where effectively, the Scouts were saying 'I believe in Dubya'. That the BSA never kicked up a storm about *that* is astounding. These weren't just adult (voting) leaders in uniform (that would have been bad enough), but kids who don't vote, probably didn't have much choice in the matter, and who were manipulated for political gain. Scouting is supposed to encourage kids to gain religious and political beliefs, without dictating what those are. (Caveat - Some Scout Troops may choose to have a religious affiliation, and it is accepted that by joining such a troop that you will be exposed to and expected to follow that religion.) I'm sure that there are other national scouting organisations around the World that have similar issues to that of the BSA, probably not by choice though. For example, I would guess that religious and political freedom were not really attained within the Iraqi scouting organisations. But generally, as an International Movement, Scouting does indeed transcend both politics and religion. BTW, in case anyone was interested; People's Republic of China, Laos, Myanmar, North Korea, Cuba were the 5 countries. It appears that since I heard that figure ( ~1998) , 2 more have joined the list; Andorra and Afghanistan. From burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 13:48:00 2003 From: burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (burdell1@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: I hardly ever use the radio on my Empeg. However, recently I was trying to tune into different stations and it wouldn't go to all the different stations. It would only go to the presets. I'm sure there is some little thing I'm forgeting or is it something more wrong with it? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 13:50:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: The front panel left and right buttons switch presets. Hold it down to scan. You have to use the remote to go one frequency step at a time. From burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 13:52:00 2003 From: burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (burdell1@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: i did the holding down to scan thing and it wouldn't work....it would do nothing. From Rue at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:09:00 2003 From: Rue at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Rue@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: This is a known problem with 2.0 final, it has been discussed here in the Bug Reports area. From burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:26:00 2003 From: burdell1 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (burdell1@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: so is there any fix to this problem (other reverting back to a previous version) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:30:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Sure it does. If a 500% surcharge is required for insured delivery, I'll go with the cheapie version every time when shipping a $15 circuit board. If it takes two tries (50% success rate), I still save a bundle! But in practice, I've only had 100% success thus far. -ml From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:34:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:03:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: In reply to:> I'll go with the cheapie version every time when shipping a $15 circuit board. The thing is that's not what we're shipping :-). At least not yet anyway. Stu From booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:52:00 2003 From: booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (booey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Im lookin for a new portable unit. I still have a neo jukebox 2, although the batter life really sux, it still does its job and plays mp3s. which is all that i want it to do. I really want to get a new unit, but all of them seem to have their own flaws. None seem to stand out. IPOD's flaw is its price if you ask me. FM is a must for me now. I was also looking at this edigital odessy player http://www.edigital-store.com/odyssey1000.html , but have also heard some bad reviews. any thoughts? brian From tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 14:53:00 2003 From: tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tms13@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: 2.0final + HiJack menu disorder PANIC Message-ID: In reply to:ALL our menus have DIFFERENT bugs in, and NOBODY noticed! I mentioned this one - and ynot concurred. From Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 15:15:00 2003 From: Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Cristian@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: I don't want to presume what the difference is between the component cost and your selling price, but you could add on your own insurance. For example add $$$ to each order to pay for the odd one that goes missing, I have never had anything go missing, so going with the other figures quoted we could assume that 75% would arrive OK. So for 10 orders that would leave $175 component cost to recover (for example only) so add $17 to each order insurance send them via the cheap mothod and the shipping cost is almost halved. I would say that it is more likley that 95%+ of orders would arrive OK in time. my dock took 5 weeks but only cost $15 and weighs as much as 100's of boards. I am in no way complaining etc... (don't want to upset anyone) I can understand that FedEx is way easier for you, it is just for me it is a real pain and will cost me almost the cost of the board again in shipping and customs. Cheers Cris. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 15:21:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Weird behavior Message-ID: Is it repairable? Or am I yet again replacing my disks? Dunno. Depends on what, exactly, is wrong. Make sure to rule out all possible causes of disk trouble, and then try to rebuild the database. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 15:29:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: so is there any fix to this problem (other reverting back to a previous version) You can still directly input a frequency using the numbers, then store them as presets. Anyone know of a way to get scan working again? Perhaps with the Kenwood remote (and via Kenwood IR commands for those without Kenwood remotes)? From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 15:31:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Home Docking Stations: Price Update Message-ID: Or gets mired in them both at the same time. Touche', Bitt! From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:21:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] MK3 ??? Message-ID: Well With The Rio/Empeg being purchased, is there any chance of a MK3 comming out soon ??? maybe even color ? From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 16:27:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Well With The Rio/Empeg being purchased, is there any chance of a MK3 comming out soon ??? maybe even color ? This is the Mk3. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:47:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Any Chance of Not having to Wait 3 to 4 years and buying a New car to get one. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:48:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: nope From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:52:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Where have you been, dude, MK3 was released in 1995. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:52:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:04:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Thats Bites the big one,,, I know my Empeg will not last forever and Pioneer, SOny, Alpine and Kenwood already have a "Empeg Like" device Seems foolish to put off building the MK3 for 3 or 4 years, From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:55:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Smacks Tony upside the head with a Piece of Trout "Where have you been, dude, MK3 was released in 1995. -Tony Your Empeg will last years and years. The only moving part is the hard drive which get cheaper and cheaper all the time. The rest is solid state and unlikely to break unless you drop it. Even if something did go wrong, its seldom something that can't be fixed by users on this BBS, or by sending to Rob Schofield. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:56:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Yes, there's always *a* chance. It might be 1 in a million, but who knows? Truthfully, we don't know the details of the Visteon deal. We don't know if Visteon might ask for an aftermarket edition. We don't know if Rio's new owners may have plans of their own for an OEM Mk3. Or if the Visteon deal may preclude that. (I'd hope not). There is much we don't know - and much that Rob cannot tell us. So I can't see where you're coming from with such a definitive answer. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:56:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I know my Empeg will not last foreverWhy wouldn't it?Pioneer, SOny, Alpine and Kenwood already have a "Empeg Like" deviceYeah, but they all suck. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:57:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Smacks Tony upside the head with a Piece of Trout Quickly blocks the trout, counters with a 27-hit combo, finishes belzeebub off with a fatality. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:57:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: by reading the thread that Tony posted. At the time it was pretty much agreed that it wouldn't appear anytime soon. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:59:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I hope it lasts forever but my little car is running out of room and I need a GPS and other items (I am on the road 220 Days out of the year driving around doing support) Was Hoping to get my cake and eat it too. 60 Gig of Mp3's and a gps in a single unit From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:01:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: GPS and Empeg go very nicely together. There are several projects. I'm sure someone will point you to the threads (I wouldn't know where to start!) From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:01:00 2003 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: Has anybody been converting wav files to WMA using WMP? If so, do you hear a noticable difference between WMA and MP3 files at the same conversion rate? Thanks, Ed From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:02:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: When Stacked next to the Empeg unit I agree they all Suck rocks but when you start looking at Full Color Screens, DVD changer, GPS and Nav Systems, thay are not all that bad anymore. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 16:57:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:05:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: yn0t_ WINS! From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:03:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: yn0t_ WINS! Okay, I just had to tell one of my coworkers with a straight face that a it was compilation error message that made me bust out laughing very loudly during work hours. Thanks, Bitt. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:04:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I know my Empeg will not last forever and Pioneer, SOny, Alpine and Kenwood already have a "Empeg Like" deviceTo my knowledge, the Empeg is the only pull out unit with RCA outs, correct? Even the "mk3" won't be a pull out, if I remember that thread right. To me this is the best feature of the Empeg, and the reason I no longer carry CDs. I have all my music everywhere I go. As for color screens etc, I personally could care less if it isn't a pull out unit. It does seem my needs are different from yours, however. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:05:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: Has anybody been converting wav files to WMA using WMP? If so, do you hear a noticable difference between WMA and MP3 files at the same conversion rate? It's rather well accepted that WMA files have better fidelity than MP3's at the same bit rate. At 128kbps, most average schmoes can hear the difference. Beyond that, I think it takes a machine or a golden ear audiophile to tell the difference. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:06:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Fancy gimmicks, thats all. Why do you need a full colour screen to play music? Empeg has no gimmicks, its a serious piece of high end audio equipment. Theres nothing out there to beat it. Gimmicks would be nice as an extra, but I'm not really bothered. From Narkotic at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:06:00 2003 From: Narkotic at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Narkotic@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: good SoCal Installer? Message-ID: Beach Auto sound are crooks and assholes ( i live across the st. from them), I used Al n' Ed's autosound, they did a great job of cutting out another DIN sized hole in my truck and installing the cage for me (and wires of course). From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:10:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I'm going to have to say that visualizations are a gimmick. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:11:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Agreed, and I could live without them. They are a very nice touch though, but if there was a trade-off between better audio clarity, and visuals, I know which one i'd lose. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:12:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: The Big Issue for me is the GPS and Nav, my little car doesn't have room to add a screen and the Unit by Alpine, Kenwood Etc has a built in screen but only a 10,16 or 30 G drive and no where near the Ease of use of the empeg, ( I have used mine so much I can find most songs by feel alone I don't need to even look) From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:13:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Okay, and all the "gimmicks" he mentioned could also be "nice touches" in the next generation car audio player. You're walking a fine line if you're trying to delineate gimmicks and nice touches. :-) From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:13:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Ok, I'll take the Empeg off your hands? From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:16:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:06:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Emmm... I guess I'm just saying that the Empeg is a great piece of kit, and anything extra I could live without. :-) From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:16:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Because when I am going an Address of 1313 Mockingbird lane in Ut and told to be there on tuesday it would be nice to have a GPS using the same Unit I have . I know there are a bunch of GPS Projects using the extra cpu cycles on the Empeg to port out to a PDA it seem cumbersome and clunkie and a MK3 or MK4 with color and a GPS built in is just what the doctor ordered. "Fancy gimmicks, thats all. Why do you need a full colour screen to play music? Empeg has no gimmicks, its a serious piece of high end audio equipment. Theres nothing out there to beat it. Gimmicks would be nice as an extra, but I'm not really bothered. " From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:17:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Thanks, Bitt.I do what I can. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:19:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: when I am going an Address of 1313 Mockingbird laneYou can't fit more than one din unit in that hearse jalopy? Too many turbo pressure readouts and whatnot? :-p)MK3 or MK4 with color and a GPS built in is just what the doctor orderedIt would be tres slick. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:21:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Baby Blazer Single Din Opening and not even enough room behind the EMpeg for the Tuner. Damm Compact Cars "You can't fit more than one din unit in that hearse jalopy? Too many turbo pressure readouts and whatnot? " From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:22:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Ok, I'm sure most of us would love a unit that had an upgradable hard drive, was pull-out with home RCA's, had a fantastic UI, played DVDs on a 36" widescreen, made coffee while you use GPS etc etc, oh... and played music. I just don't see if coming anytime soon. I HOPE I'm wrong and Camelot appears next week, but the public are just about coping with mp3s, so who knows if the market is ready. I suppose Visteon is paying hundreds of thousands to find this information out. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:38:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: That is the Issue The Big Guys already have the Color Screens, the DVD movies, ther GPS and Nav systems, but there Mp3 Interfaces Sucks Rocks compaired to the Empeg Sony and Pioneer have 10 Gig None-upgradable units you need to rip from the car ( Barf me out gag me with a spoon) Kenwood has the PhatNoise box (You can upload to that from your home computer) Alpine has a Cartage Style unit that is removable and you upload to it from your computer Empeg has the Best Menu driven Interface and the easy of use no one comes close to, but even if it had a GPS how usefull would it be on a 4 Bit blue Screen From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 17:39:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: Yeah, I had this discussion with a friend of mine recently. He was saying how the new Apple music service integrated into the iPod and iTunes nicely, and cited the AAC format as being better than MP3 (a claim that WMA also makes). My response was that once you go up to a higher bit rate than 128, you can't tell the difference among file formats. Most comparisons among encoders or among file formats will do their tests at 128 or below, because it's only an issue at those low bit rates. If you're hell-bent on saving the disk space, then yeah, WMA at 128 is maybe a tiny bit better than MP3 at 128. But for me, what's more important is the convenience of MP3. There are more players which support MP3, more tools to work with the file format, and much better and more varied tagging/organizing tools availble. I'd rather encode at a higher bit rate than 128 and use the most convenient file format available. And right now, that's still MP3. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:41:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Empeg has the Best Menu driven Interface and the easy of use no one comes close to, but even if it had a GPS how usefull would it be on a 4 Bit blue Screen I'm not sure if you've followed the GPS projects, but they're pretty useful now, and becoming more useful. Granted, if you want a rich, detailed maps, look elsewhere, but if getting from point A to point B is your goal, then gpsapp is starting to evolve into something very nice. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:44:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Empeg has the Best Menu driven Interface and the easy of use no one comes close to, but even if it had a GPS how usefull would it be on a 4 Bit blue Screen Well, my gps-enabled empeg got me to and from the NY meet last weekend. The only problem that I had was due to bad mapsonus routing. Had I simply printed the mapsonus route I would have been screwed, but since I had GPS I just meandered my way towards the dot. It worked. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 17:45:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I know there are a bunch of GPS Projects using the extra cpu cycles on the Empeg to port out to a PDA it seem cumbersome and clunkie GPSapp does not port out to a PDA. It's all self-contained within the empeg. The only external part is the GPS receiver/antenna, which can often be mounted stealth. Mine is buried inside my dashboard and works fine. Agreed, the empeg screen isn't the best for displaying maps, and the GPSapp software is still a work in progress (especially in terms of getting good map data into it). But if you've already got the empeg, and space is a concern, then it's a great option for doing zero-footprint, low-cost GPS. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:48:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:07:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Anyone got a Link for the gpsapp last GPS I saw for the empeg was a port out to a Ipaq From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 17:51:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Anyone got a Link for the gpsapp FAQ entry is right here. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:52:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: http://delft.aura.cs.cmu.edu/empeg/ Please please please let me beat Fabris. Edit: Aw, nuts. At least I gave him a direct link. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:53:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: LOL. The Bot's in the 'hood. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 17:54:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Edit: Aw, nuts. At least I gave him a direct link. :-D (I chose to give him the FAQ entry because it also gives an overview and describes the necessary hardware and wiring. :P ) From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:55:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Mlord Dock and Digital Out...Questions... Message-ID: Yes, FedEx is much better, I just shipped an item to Canada yesterday through the post office and it ended up taking 45 minutes. The line was practically out the door. Nevertheless all international shipping charges have been reduced to $25 and will be shipped via some form of USPS offering. Stu From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:57:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Okay, I would like to revise the unwritten semantics of my statement to read "please let me _beat_ Fabris," as in "beat with a stick." From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 17:58:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Hummm that is like a map quest you upload where you want to go and get directions, Usefull but not what I am looking for, really need the whole West coast Plus for myself. From snoopstah at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:00:00 2003 From: snoopstah at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (snoopstah@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: That would be my ideal setup, when I get some money. Empeg in one din slot, and one of the units with fold-out LCD screen for GPS, TV, DVD, PS2, Xbox, and the like in the other din slot. Everything you could ever want. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:02:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Hummm that is like a map quest you upload where you want to go and get directions, Usefull but not what I am looking for, really need the whole West coast Plus for myself. Correct. You have to grab a route from the web before you start your trip, and send that route to the player with FTP. Using some clever scripting and a shell extension in the registry, I've gotten it down to just a few clicks. But it only has to be this way "for now". They're working on how to get the map data into it more easily and in more useful ways. Like I said, it's a work in progress. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:03:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: You seem really pissed off that your car stereo isn't a GPS? I didn't get that impression. He's just asking about features. I don't think that "these features do not match my needs" constitues "pissed off". From davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:04:00 2003 From: davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (davekirk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:08:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: How much disk capacity is enough for you? From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:06:00 2003 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: can you actually hear the difference? WMP claimed that WMA at 64kbps was the same sound as MP3 at 128 KBPS....NOT besides the Rio I have a cd player in my car and did an A/B test between WMA file at 64kbps and the actual CD and the results were quite noticable...and disappointing....i am now redoing all of the CD's that were done at 64 at 128..thats about 200 of them. If 128 for MP3 or WMA is said to be CD quality, what would the point be to convert them at a higher bit rate?? is there a rate at which the compressed media would sound better than the source? Thanks! From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:06:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Perhaps pissed off is the wrong term, but I'm picking up something. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:01:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Sorry if this seems really rude! But I'm not sure what your point is? You seem really pissed off that your car stereo isn't a GPS?! Well sorry, its not! Its a car stereo. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:08:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Thanks Tony, No I am not pissed off at all I have had my EMpeg for nearly 3 years I love it I don't want to part with it but my car is small and I need other options, A MK3 with gps would fit the bill and I won't care if it cost 7000 Bucks if it was a good as my Old Blue MK2, I am jsut annoyed that I have to choose between waiting 4 years or loosing my Empeg for something that is not half as nice, but has the other options I need in my job. From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:10:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Empeg in one din slot, and one of the units with fold-out LCD screen for GPS, TV, DVD, PS2, Xbox, and the like in the other din slot. I've been considering something similar. Crutchfield catalog lists a bunch of fold out screens, but they all only talk about DVD playback, not integrated GPS. And most of them are JUST the screen in that slot, you need yet another slot for the DVD drive. I once saw a really nice GPS system which had a "3D" option, where it would show you sort of a "chase helicopter" view of the map and your route. It was the clearest and easiest to follow system. In some cities, it even had major building landmarks a la flight simulator. Which one was that? Having something like that would be awesome. So if I really wanted to go all-out on such a system, what's available out there? Anyone got links? From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:12:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: The Creative Zen looks really nice, and gets good reviews www.creative.com FM will be possible with the remote. If you can wait 3-4 months, Rio will be bringing out the Pearl. Looks pretty nice, and developed by the Empeg guys so software etc should be flawless. I'm in the same boat as you - get an iPOD etc now, or wait for Pearl. I'm waiting for Pearl!!! Not sure about FM on this though. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:13:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I'll add links when I am home and not posting from this Lame Sony P-book with the Micro Keyboard (It fits in my jacket Pocket) Best bet is the Alpine for about 3800 Bucks Total 7 inch screen 16 gig hard drive and Nav/gps system Or kenwood with PhatNoise Box for about 3300 From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:14:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonNav.jsp From davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:15:00 2003 From: davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (davekirk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: A MK3 with gps would fit the bill and I won't care if it cost 7000 Bucks... For $7000 you could find another car with 2 DIN slots and get your stereo removed and reinstalled. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:15:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:09:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I take that back Best best would be a Empeg Mod that would give you RCA output so you could pipe it to a Screen Screw the Empeg knock off boxes and get the real thing From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:16:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: If 128 for MP3 or WMA is said to be CD quality, what would the point be to convert them at a higher bit rate? That is market-speak BS. No lossy encoding scheme is CD quality, and certainly not 128. can you actually hear the difference? Yes. Depends on the material, but yes, certain songs at 128 CBR MP3, I can tell it's a lossy-encoded version. I can hear the "watery" artifacts around the instruments. Once you know what to listen for, it's not hard. Push it up to 160 or higher, and I can't tell any more. I've been re-doing everything at 256 CBR lately, since now I have the disk space. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:18:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: There is a huge difference for me between 128 and 160 or 192k mp3s. The 192 encoded files just seem crisper. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:21:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I wish I could find a Different car for 7k but no dice I still owe 22k on my current car and the install on my stereo was well over 3k, but it was a nice try. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:22:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: 3k??? From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:25:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Although most of those reviews are probably by the same crowd that give every Creative product good reviews. I haven't played with one, so maybe I'm wrong, but I've pretty much given up on ever buying a Creative product again. I'm waiting for the Pearl too. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:26:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: That Kenwood system looks pretty neat. I liked this: AUDIO FEATURES - Speaker Connection for Supplied Speaker This means I don't have to pipe it into the AUX to hear it work. I can still hear the turn directions even if I've got the music going. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:27:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Yes, its very hard to get an independent and unbiased review these days. Maybe an Empegger has a Zen and can give a quick review. I think most have iPODs though. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:29:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Yep Double layers of DynaMat Ultra on the floors doors and Roof, 4 pairs of Diamond Audio Hex s600 Speakers, Custom Center Console for my Pioneer DEQ-9200 and a bunch of Extra junk. BTW how come I can't seem to find the "Quote" button? From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:32:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I'm hoping for a TTS enabled GPSapp. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 18:39:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:10:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I'm hoping for a TTS enabled GPSapp. So it can tell me to turn left instead of right that much more clearly? :-) Of course, that little problem should be taken care of pretty soon. Jan and I found the root of what was causing that problem. Sometimes the map data has very small errors in it, making an intersection look like a tiny little loop only a few feet wide instead of a clean turn. Seems like a clean turn when zoomed out at the proper distance, but at a very small scale, there's noise that needs to be corrected somewhere in the process. I agree, though, it would be cool to have GPSapp do voice overlay, especially if you could leave it on the player screens and have the voices come up in the mix. In fact, I was thinking that a nice addition to GPSapp would be a pop-up mode which allowed you to stay mostly on the music screen and have it pop up only near turns. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:48:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Yeah, I agree. While that 60gig ZEN looks good, I'm also holding out for the Pearl. Rob promised it will be a real iPod killer. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 18:52:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Best Bet would be a RCA Video Output from the Empeg (I don't care if it is only 4 bit) and Plug that into the Aux Input of one of the DVD changers that have NAv and GPS, then hit the Goodwill stores for a Old IR Rabbit (IR remote Extender) so you can use the Empeg remote and keep the Empeg Mounted under a chair or in the trunk. From davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:05:00 2003 From: davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (davekirk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I have a Zen that I was planning to upgrade to 80GB, but with the current file count limitations, that doesn't make sense. If I had heard about the problem before purchase, I wouldn't have bought it. I'm hoping Creative can < will release a firmware update that increases the ID tag database storage like the new 60GB unit must have. Aside from that, the Zen is no Empeg (of course). But it's nice, and portable enough for the gym. I also have an Archos Jukebox 6000 upgraded to 40GB. The Rockbox software really makes these MUCH nicer. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:13:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: LOL. I decided that I wasn't going to mention that issue... ;-) Yeah, I've been thinking a bit about future GPSapp 'modes' recently. Having used GPSapp 'for real' to navigate a few previously unknown routes last weekend, I got a better handle on some of the current quirks and what I'd like to see, and yes, a background mode with auto-wake near waypoint would be one of them. TTS and/or beeps would be another. There's a whole load of ideas which really belong in a different thread. I have to run out right now, but remind me if I haven't created a suitable thread by the morning! From trs24 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:21:00 2003 From: trs24 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (trs24@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I agree, mp3's at 128 really sound horrible to me now. And that didn't start happening until a friend pointed out the distortions to me. I personally don't like anything below 192 CBR. I usually rip everything with a VBR with a minimum of 160, though. - trs From zaskar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:23:00 2003 From: zaskar at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (zaskar@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Just a little while longer Message-ID: Great, all i need is a board. I orderd everything else from digikey lastnight and it arrived today. That's what I call fast service. From d33zY at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:32:00 2003 From: d33zY at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (d33zY@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Wow, gpsapp looks really cool. Do you guys have any recommendations on which gps models would work best with it? One more thing- in the FAQ it says that quality map data has to be licensed. How does that work? Is it very expensive, or would it be possible for individuals to purchase it for their empegs? From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:32:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: 192 CBR. I figure that I'll never be able to hear the difference going any higher, and that since both my empeg and fileserver have excessive capacity (in relation to my music collection) that it wasn't worth mucking around with any VBR-related issues. I only want to rip once! From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:39:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: > One more thing- in the FAQ it says that quality map data has to be licensed. How does that work? Is it very expensive, or would it be possible for individuals to purchase it for their empegs? I was wondering that too. And also, is GPSApp useable for European Empeggers and where could I get (or buy) the maps I need then? From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:45:00 2003 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: ive an ipod and my roommate has a 20 gig zen. it seems to be pretty nice, easy access of songs. hes kinda messy though so theres not any playlists made. and not many of his songs are labeled correctly. but... it is fairly easy to search through songs and albums. it does auto create them (playlists, that is) from the id3 tags. the jog dial doesnt seem to accelerate so it can be a pain going from the top of a list to the bottom. the creative EAX dsp modes are fun to listen to (hall, theatre, bathroom, live, opera and others) but the equalizer leaves alot for the wanting. its got your standard presets and a custom mode. only like six or seven (iirc) bars and no way further customization than your standard up and down. (ive now compared it to empeg. of course it wont satisfy me equalizer wise) it can serve as a portable hdd, which is nice, but cant everything these days? it supports recording through a wired mic, not sure if its included or not, never used it. umm... not much else off the top of my head. over all... ipod is smaller and weighs less, is much prettier and has a coo jog dial on the front. nomad is little heavier, kinda confusing interface at first, has cool sound distortions and i think is cheaper. both, imo, are overrated. but id pick the ipod over the zen. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:45:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:11:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Won't the database size be dependent on RAM? It may not be possible to increase it with firmware. What hard drives will Pearl use? Its too small to use laptop drives so will upgrades be expensive/hard? From davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 20:30:00 2003 From: davekirk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (davekirk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:05 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Won't the database size be dependent on RAM?There is some uncertainty on this issue, at least on the forums I visit. AFAIK no Creative employee has definitively answered this as of now. As far as Creative is concerned there is no problem, because they didn't market the Zen to be user storage-upgradeable. A lot of us early purchasers are hoping the problem can be resolved in software, but no one is sure. The Ipod and (I think) Perl use 1.8" HDD vs 2.5". I haven't heard of anyone who has upgraded the disk in an Ipod. I suspect it's a quantum leap more difficult than the Empeg or Zen. And there's little to be gained in doing an upgrade, since 30GB is the biggest 1.8" HDD model IIRC. From BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 20:46:00 2003 From: BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BryanR@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Okay, for the fifth time in as many months, I've been getting that damn "No hard disk found contact support" message, and each time it's been because the cable has slipped loose from the primary drive. What is the best way I can prevent this in future? Bearing in mind that I'm only about 3GB (~6 months, I guess) from needing a new primary drive, I don't particularly want to have to super-glue it in place. Is there any sensible way I can fix it more securely, yet leave it still simple to remove when I next upgrade? Thanks, From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 19:49:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: Its amazing how many people don't notice the difference until you demonstrate it. A friend of mine was sick when he heard my 192 files compared to his entire collection of 128s. He had fun re-ripping!! From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 19:51:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: in the FAQ it says that quality map data has to be licensed. How does that work? The problem is that the quality map data is proprietary, meaning that it's in a file format that we don't even know how to decode. If I could simply take the commercial Street Atlas CD and copy its contents onto my Empeg's hard disk, that would be the ultimate. Unfortunately, even if we could do that, the data would be meaningless gibberish to GPSapp. Or to any other program other than StreetAtlas for that matter. The only map files with an open format just don't have as much quality data as we really need. I've edited out the incorrect text in the FAQ entry that used the word "licensed". From tfabris at jps.net Thu May 8 19:57:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: And also, is GPSApp useable for European Empeggers and where could I get (or buy) the maps I need then? If you can find a web site that puts up European route information as latitude/longitude numbers (the way MapsOnUs does), then you could modify GPSapp's python script to screen-scrape that web site instead of MapsOnUs. The reason GPSApp uses MapsOnUs is because it's the only web-based mapper that gives its routes lat/long data. At the moment, If it weren't for that site, GPSapp wouldn't work. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 20:54:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Duct tape? From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 20:57:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Hot-melt glue should work fine. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 21:01:00 2003 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: yup, glue gun. quick and easy, and easy to remove. From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 21:07:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:12:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: That Kenwood system looks pretty neat.I came up with the link quick because that is the system I am eyeing. Same as the system coming in new Lexus cars. I used a co workers Lexus model and it is excellent. From msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 21:33:00 2003 From: msaeger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (msaeger@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I think rob posted that the pearl uses a smaller than the 1.8" drive the ipod uses From TheRhino at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 21:40:00 2003 From: TheRhino at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (TheRhino@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I'm still waiting on this for all my GPS needs... From rob at empeg.com Thu May 8 21:51:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: It's certainly a different form factor 1.8" drive than the one in the iPod. Rob From rob at empeg.com Thu May 8 21:51:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: In fact this was done at the factory on all later units. From matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 21:52:00 2003 From: matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (matthew_k@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: You're thinking of what at some points has been refered to as "slicky" which uses the tiny new hard drives. It is really a tiny player when you see it in person, but from the rumors it's going to be expensive for a a lot less of the storage space of a Pearl/iPod. Matthew From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu May 8 23:10:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: As far as Creative is concerned there is no problem, because they didn't market the Zen to be user storage-upgradeable. A lot of us early purchasers are hoping the problem can be resolved in software, but no one is sure. I'd guess that Creative's fix will be for you to buy the Zen Gold! From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 00:18:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: In reply to:Anyone know of a way to get scan working again? Perhaps with the Kenwood remote (and via Kenwood IR commands for those without Kenwood remotes)? Brilliant! And... _it works! (mostly)_ 
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Brilliant! EDIT: fixed From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 01:05:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu May 8 22:13:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: As Promised here are the Links for the Alpine GPS Empeg Knock off product (drat for some reason alpine is Hiding Links so you will need to look for the items sorry) Main Unit IVA-D900 http://12.145.140.137/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html A picture is worth a thousand words and one look immediately tells you "all pictures are not created equal." The IVA-D900 has 400% more pixels, that is 1.15 million pixel elements, the picture is proof enough. Along with 50W x 4 built-in power and 3 PreOuts (4 volt), it's ready to control XM Satellite Radio, a Hard Disc Drive (HDD), video games, navigation and more. The ultimate mobile theater system is now a reality and this DVD player with a motorized screen performs flawlessly. 7" Fully Motorized Wide Screen Monitor • 50W x 4 MOSFET Amplifier • Built-in Dolby Digital/DTS Decoder • Bass Engine® Plus - Subwoofer Level Control - Bass Center Frequency Control - Bass Band Width Adjustment - Treble Center Frequency Control - Subwoofer Phase Selector - Bass Type Control - 4-Ch Digital Time Correction - 3 Position 12 dB/Oct Crossover • MediaXpander™ • XM Satellite Radio Ready • MP3 Text Information Display • Quick Search Function • CD/CD-R Playback • CD Text, Text Display, Text Scroll • M DAC • MaxTune SQ Tuner • 3 Auxilliary A/V Inputs with Remote Control Input • Dedicated Navigation Input • Dedicated Camera Input • 2 Auxilliary Monitor A/V Outputs • Navigation Audio Mix • 3 PreOuts (4 volt) • MM Driver (Hard Disc Drive) Ready • MobileHub Ready • Ai-NET Control Center DVD/CD/MP3 Changer Controller • "Digital Art" Spectrum Analyzer Display • RUE-4190 Universal Wireless Remote Control Included Piss Poor Empeg Knock Off HDA-5460 CD Player 0 Data Detect Mute 1 Disc DP-S Mechanism 8x Oversampling CD Text CD Text Display CD Text Scroll Digital De-emphasis Digital Servo Disc Play/Pause Disc Title Memory Elapsed Time Display Forward/Backward M.I.X. (Random Play) Music Scan Music Sensor Regulated 1-Bit DAC Repeat (One/All) T.S.M. (Title Search Menu Scroll) T.S.M. (Title Search Menu) General-Head Units 1 PreOut Anti-Theft Detachable Front Panel Detachable Trim Plate Operation Indicator HDD Control (Hard Disc Drive) BioLight Display DJ Music Mix (Music Genre DJ Interface) Detachable HDD (16GB) MP3/WMA/WAV Playback Capability Mobile Multimedia Driver Software Music Visualizer Quick Search Function Stand Alone Play Stores approximately 3,000 songs Specs: CD Player Channel Separation (1kHz) : 85dB DAC Type : 1-Bit Dynamic Range (1kHz) : 95dB Frequency Response : 5Hz—20kHz Number of DACs : 2 Oversampling : 8X/352.8kHz Sampling Rate : 44.1kHz Signal-to-Noise (SN) : 105dB Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) : 0.008 % General-Head Units Chassis Size (W x H x D)in : 7" x 2” x 6” Chassis Size (W x H x D)mm : 178mm x 50mm x 152mm Maximum Mounting Angle : 30° from Horizontal Nose Piece Size (W x H x D) : 178mm x 46mm x 18 mm Nose Piece Size (W x H x D)in : 6-11/16" x 1-13/16" x 11/16" Operating Temperature (°C/°F) : 60°C (140°F) to -10°C (14°F) Power Requirement : 14.4V DC (11V to 16V) Pre Output Voltage (Before Clipping) : 2 Volts HDD Player MP3 Bit-rate : 64/80/96/112/128/144/160/192/224/256/320 kbps MP3 Sampling Frequency : 48/44.1/32/24 kHz Removal HDD : 16 GB WMA Bit-rate : 64/80/96/128/160/192 kbps WMA Sampling Frequency : 48/44.1/32/24 kHz GPS Nav Unit NVE-N852A http://12.145.140.137/html/D2_n_1_n_n.html Alpine's DVD PowerNav system was the first to the US market and no one does it better! It's easy to put in an address, business phone number, business name, whatever - and it finds it all, giving you turn-by-turn directions all the way to your destination! It's got over six million points of interest such as ATM's, restaurants, shopping malls, even hardware stores and garden nurseries. And it finds these destinations fast, finishing calculations to your destination in mere seconds! Even if you miss a turn, DVD PowerNav will get you back on your course quickly and automatically. GUI (Graphical User Interface) for Drivers • Alpine DVD-ROM Mechanism • High Performance CPU and Graphics Engine • 12 Channel GPS Receiver, Gyro Sensor and Speed Sensor • Wireless Audio/Navigation Remote Control Included • Freeway Exit and Entrance Name Guidance • SmartMap Pro 8.5 GB Dual Layer DVD-ROM • Coverage across the US and parts of Canada (see coverage map for detailed areas) • Over six million points of interest (POIs) from NavTech and InfoUSA From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 9 01:19:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu May 8 22:14:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: Thanks, Mark! As always... YOU DA MAN! From canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 02:13:00 2003 From: canuckInLA at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (canuckInLA@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:00:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: good SoCal Installer? Message-ID: Thanks for the heads up. From jarob10 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 03:27:00 2003 From: jarob10 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jarob10@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:00:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: bend all the pins ever-so-slightly on the HDD so you get a tighter grip on the cable connector. The pins must obviously remain straight enough to enter its respective 'lead in' chamfer on the cable connector. Not sure if this method is solid enough to get a FAQ entry, but at least you dont have to start shooting hot glue everywhere :-) From frog51 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 04:32:00 2003 From: frog51 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (frog51@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:01:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I always used to find 192 CBR was sufficient, but there are some bands whose music seems designed to cause artifacts even at that bitrate :-) Two examples which spring to mind are Muse and Pantera. I guess it's because they have stuff happening from very low to very high frequencies and 192 just ain't enough - you get jangling and pre-echoes. For some Muse tracks I either had to go to 320 (which gave me HUGE files) or go VBR, so that's what I do with everything now. It just ramps up the bitrate to cope with the complicated stuff. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:21:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:01:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Rob; I have a question about the Pearl (if you can disclose that information). Will the HD capacity be comparable, less or larger than the capacity of the (new) iPod? From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:24:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Rob, is the design of Pearl finalised? Is the colour scheme still "1970's orange" buttons? From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:29:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:01:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I believe Rob once said that the chosen colour on the prototype was probably not going to make it in the final product. Of course, it's possible that they've decided otherwise by now. From BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:34:00 2003 From: BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BryanR@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: I haven't got a glue gun, so I'll give the tape a try. Ta, From Jerz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:35:00 2003 From: Jerz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Jerz@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I just saw an ad in a music magazine a couple of weeks ago that a friend had (I believe it was some kind of Metal magazine) and the pearl had blue buttons and was "coming soon" and price was "TBD". It looked very slick and tiny compared to the ear buds that it was sitting next to. There was no orange on any of the buttons. From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:47:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: You don't happen to have a scan of it, do you? From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 05:47:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Two HDD capacities will be offered, both larger than the equivalent new iPod capacity. The larger capacity is a third larger than the maximum iPod capacity right now. The colour scheme uses blue buttons. There's no orange anywhere :-) Rob From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 05:50:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:26 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I want I want I want I want ! Seriously, if its competitively priced, I'll grab one. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 06:02:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: > The larger capacity is a third larger than the maximum iPod capacity right now. That's great! Thanks for the info Rob ! From Jerz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 06:32:00 2003 From: Jerz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Jerz@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: < 256 CBR for me too. 1) Because (on the empeg at least) CBR is the only thing that gives consistantly perfect transitions with "no-gap" encoding (VBR is too flakey / twiddley) 2) /Allo-Allo (Pythonesque french accent) - "I'm only going to do this once" 3) Disk space can only get cheaper From morrisdl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 09:37:00 2003 From: morrisdl at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (morrisdl@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: There is a picture of a Pearl in this months Playboy magazine. I dont remember if it had orange or blue buttons. See, I read the articles too. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 09:44:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:02:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Hot-melt glue guns are only about $5 or so.. and useful for lots of other stuff, too! From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 09:46:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: I just don't know why it took this long for anyone to think about trying a KW remote for the scan function.. I mean, we tried front panel and Rio remote, but.. oh well. Maybe I didn't think of it cuz my Kenwood remote was buried under tons of stuff on the Empeg spare parts shelf.. Thanks Tony! From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 09:59:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: ...and I was half joking about the duct tape. It will work, but hot glue is a much better solution for long term. From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 10:00:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Since it has been hawked in so many magazines it probably won't hurt to post this image. Rob From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:03:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:21 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Nice! Still on for a UK August launch? Maybe? From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:07:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: In our dreams me thinks,.... It is May < the US ain't got it yet..... D'oh From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:10:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Hey Rob, a few players officially sourced through empeg (UK) for the UK masssive / faithfull ;-) isn't a possibility is it? (crosses fingers and retires to wait for the inevitable) From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:11:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Looks dope! Much better than the model with orange buttons and segmented display. I think I must buy one. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:19:00 2003 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: god..now im depressed.... i converted everything first at 64..now i am 3/4 way through again at 128...and there are 200+ cd's to do!...and now it seems i have to bump that up even further...my only concern is disc space as i have a 20 gigger and at 64 i have 8 gb left...converting everything at 128 will leave me with even less and i am not looking forward to replacing yet another HD!... but..my car ..even when sitting still..has tons of road noise (miatas never cared to emulate the comfort of a Rolls)...so hopefully between that and the damage to my hearing thanks to Walkmans....perhaps it wont matter all that much.. i guess ignorance IS bliss! From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 10:36:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:03:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I have no idea about European sales. DNNA haven't formulated their European strategy yet (or at least haven't announced it). Rob From simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:46:00 2003 From: simspos at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (simspos@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: Don't feel so bad, I only did mine at that bitrate for use at home as a replacement for CD's. If it was for use in my car then I couldn't justify anything over 128 - no point (low end equipment due to thieving bar-stewards, HUGE roadnoise and a very LOUD car) "Horses for Courses", is the expression - if it fits your needs just do it anyway. From booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 10:47:00 2003 From: booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (booey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: wow, man that Pearl looks nice!!! I will definately get one. I kinda have a feeling we wont see this unit before Christmas or so.. I hope im wrong though and still on track for release. Im also so tired of all of these players boasting these 10-11 hour battery life times, misleading people, not stating that your mp3's gotta be encoded at 64kb, which is a joke. Rob, can you shed any light on how long the battery life is? I noticed the screen is pretty big, and backlit. Excellent design, looks so sharp! man i cant wait to order one! brian From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:08:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I'd be willing to bet my life that its out well before Christmas - its too big a market to lose out on for another year to iPOD. I'll guess August - October time. From csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:18:00 2003 From: csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (csf@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I've got a jeep wrangler and I stll rip stuff at VBR that tends to average 190-210 kbps. Since I use a rio receiver and my computer to listen to tunes, the CD's are never used once they are encoded. Plus, should something happen to the CD's, I would have a method of recreating a new CD that is almost sonically identical to the original. I can tell a 128 kbps in easily half the tunes I listen to. If I'm re-encoding for my workout mp3 player, I put in high and low pass filters (ear buds are pretty limited in what they can reproduce) and use an agressive VBR scheme to try and get a decent amount of quality tunes into my 64 megs. It doesn't use any extra processor power to playback a VBR file over a CBR one, so I don't see the point in NOT letting the encoder decide where more bits are needed. From csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:21:00 2003 From: csf at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (csf@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I also was chatting with my parents about the new apple distribution website. They thought it seemed like a grand idea since you could buy what you wanted. Once I pointed out that you would have to ditch your old digital audio equipment and buy new apple stuff, they began to see the issues that will arise. (I love replying to my own post). From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:24:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: An alternative to hot glue would be a silicone rubber sealer such as Ratshack sell. It'll take a lot longer to cure though. I'm sure that Home Depot type places sell something suitable as well, but make sure that you don't use something like 'plumbers goop' that is a bit 'permanent'. But as Mark said, hot glue guns are cheap. From blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:42:00 2003 From: blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (blitz@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Stalk Delay (Player Mode) Message-ID: Is anyone else having long delays when pressing the stalk buttons? It is always in the player mode and can delay the action by 5 seconds or more. Sometimes it will respond instaniously but at others it will delay. From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 11:44:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: It should ship way sooner than Christmas - late summer would be more the target. Stated battery life for our products is based on mid volume 128K MP3, which is a reasonable and fairly common criteria. Obviously you won't get the same battery life if you play 256K Ogg files at full volume the whole time. We haven't announced the battery life for Pearl yet, however - unofficially - I believe it will be substantially greater than the iPod. The iPod is extremely thin because of its tiny battery, but I think we'll have the better trade off of form factor vs capacity and battery life. Rob From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:48:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Rob- If you can say (I don't recall seeing it previously), what is the PC/Pearl data connection type (USB2, firewire etc)? -Zeke From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:50:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:04:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I remember reading USB 2 From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 11:52:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: _what is the PC/Pearl data connection type_ USB 2.0 or 100Mbit Ethernet. One of the Ethernet features is being developed by a well known contributer to the empeg software community, but I couldn't possibly say any more ;-) Rob From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:56:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: That's perfect. I'm sold! -Zeke From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:57:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Stalk Delay (Player Mode) Message-ID: I've had so many intermittent problems, delays, not-responding issues with the stalk that I've just come to live with it. You're not alone. -Zeke From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 11:59:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: The Lord has many gifts. From blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:03:00 2003 From: blitz at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (blitz@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Stalk Delay (Player Mode) Message-ID: Does it seem to you it happens more frequently when first playing a song. LIke the player is busy filling up the cache? From booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:03:00 2003 From: booey at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (booey@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: im drooling now.. ill take the pearl form factor/battery life over less battery life any day. man, i cant wait. From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:09:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Most of the stuff that you get for kitchen and bathroom use produces acetic acid (vinegar) when curing. So make sure you get one that doesn't. It's not strong acid but it's best not to have it near the electronics. - Trevor From Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:12:00 2003 From: Ezekiel at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Ezekiel@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Stalk Delay (Player Mode) Message-ID: I haven't been able to assign any sort of pattern to the behavior, except perhaps temperature. It works well enough most of the time, and I feel it's improved in 2.0 final, but it's not perfect. For me it works well enough to be worth having so I'm not sweating it. -Zeke From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:13:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:05:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Rob, I just wanted to say that that thing looks really cool! I'm sure the software is great too, knowing you guys. From cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:14:00 2003 From: cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cushman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Looks great, Rob! I had forgotten it supports OGG Vorbis. When you guys have a webpage for the Pearl, you should definately get it posted on Slashdot (remember to unplug your coffee maker and plug in your extra webservers). Every story about a new MP3 player always gets 50 bajillion posts to the tune of "Unless it supports OGG, I won't buy it". You guys can give them a big steaming cup of STFU. Of course you'll also get the posts wanting a color screen, video player, integrated handheld computer, video games, mobile phone, hand lotion dispenser, convert into gas-powered scooter, etc. From FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:17:00 2003 From: FerretBoy at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FerretBoy@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Of course you'll also get the posts wanting a color screen, video player, integrated handheld computer, video games, mobile phone, hand lotion dispenser, convert into gas-powered scooter, etc.You forgot GPS. ;-) From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:20:00 2003 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Rob is that early summer date for the US? Could you *guess* at a UK release? From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 12:23:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Just a little while longer Message-ID: We have received a tracking number for the PCBs, so they should be arriving here next week, probably on Wednesday. After we receive them, we will need to verify that they fit and turned out as expected. Finally we will have to order more parts to put one together and install it to verify that it works. Stu From rob at empeg.com Fri May 9 12:36:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:29 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I can't even guess at a UK release, as I'm not in the loop with the sales folks on this (too busy developing the products!). Whether it means anything or not, we have been told to go ahead and localise the software for our usual European languages (plus Japanese) in time for release 1.0. Rob From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 9 13:50:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: I messed with it a bit last night. Is that supposed to work for the front panel, too, or just for the Rio remote? From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 9 13:53:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: I haven't got a glue gun, so I'll give the tape a try. Do the glue. Hot glue guns are the second best invention in the world next to the empeg, you should definitely own one just for the sake of owning one. And as far as "how to do it" goes, the Drive Upgrade Guide has a very clear video of exactly how to do it. I highly recommend you look at it. Another thing to consider is the way the drive cable is folded and positioned inside the player. If it's being pulled loose all the time, maybe it simply needs to be creased a little differently so it doesn't constantly have that pulling stress on it. From decay at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 14:31:00 2003 From: decay at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (decay@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] ir_translate codes for faster volups/downs Message-ID: Helou. I know this info is _somewhere_ on this bbs, but the bbs is too friggin' large d=) I've been muddling with my config.ini with help from riocar.org's FAQ, so. You guys, I bet you can solve my problem w/o thinking ;-) I have Mk1, Kenwood KCA-R6A remote. I want the volume ups/downs to be faster. So, I'm trying this on config.ini: 00000002.L=VolUp,VolUp,VolUp,VolUp ;for faceplace 00B94614.L=VolUp,VolUp,VolUp,VolUp ;for remote ...and so on. I have this on my config.ini: [output] notify=1 and my software is v2, newest hijack just installed. What's the correct codes for this to happen the way I want it to? I've tried several codes with .L and so on, thing is. Everytime I do a long right-press on my faceplace the vol jumps up ~3db:s and then starts rolling 0.5dbs. I want the volume to adjust on a ~3db scale. Got it? Damn, it's friday night. How long does it take for an answer? *grin* Thanks. From ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 14:32:00 2003 From: ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ashmoore@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:06:56 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: same here. I use VBR LAME with alt preset std. Which seems to average out at 190-220 ish. But a great deal of my listening is done at home, so the quality is much more important. From somewhereth at sflat Fri May 9 16:11:00 2003 From: somewhereth at sflat (Rob Schofield) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: I'm afraid not, no. The reason being that I will be pretty busy most of the time during the meet keeping things running. I found that last year I missed a lot of the event just getting things to run on time, and to add in the couple of hours per install necessary to do the button install properly would mean: - you would all have a pretty boring time - I would meet no-one, and worse still - I would get to drink no beer }:-( However, for those of you wanting the job done, if you bring the kit and your display unit (dismounted) then I would be happy to do them in the days following the event and post them to you immediately they are done. This would mean that you'd have them back inside a few days - let me know in advance if anyone is interested. From draos at 4mate.hr Fri May 9 16:30:00 2003 From: draos at 4mate.hr (Dragi Raos) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: Until guys@empeg manage to talk bosses into releasing something MkIII+-ish, I would stick with empeg plus Street Pilot or equivalent. I mean, one does not really need navigation often enough to make dashboard velcroable handheld that inconvenient, does one? From Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 16:36:00 2003 From: Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Beamer325@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: Hi Folks I have a MK2 10 Gb unit and am getting a 325i Bmw with already fitted CD Changer in the boot. Looking at the pics of the dash there seems to be a compartment under the Air con controls where the Empeg might fit. Has anyone fitted out the 325i? I saw a few posts, one unfortunately where the pics link did not work. Any ideas chaps? From tfabris at jps.net Fri May 9 16:52:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: Do some searches in the "Installation Notes" forum, and also please read this section of the FAQ, especially this entry, this entry, and this entry. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 16:57:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:30 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: What year/ chassis type? From draos at 4mate.hr Fri May 9 17:04:00 2003 From: draos at 4mate.hr (Dragi Raos) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: > we have been told to go ahead and localise the software for our usual European languages (plus Japanese) in time for release 1.0. So, who is doing Croatian translation? ;-) Seriously, this is the first time I saw the thing, and I can't stop drooling. And, you say, 3.0 SW is the baseline? Fantastic! From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 17:11:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: If your BMW is one of the latest series (the one with the integrated-in-dash headunit) then you're out of luck. I know which compartment you're talking about, but that won't work because the compartment is not deep enough when the plastic gets removed. The heater is installed behind it, and apparantly there is no way the compartment could be made deep enough to install a DIN sized unit like the Empeg. The heater unit simply prohibits this. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 18:09:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: I do, I am on the road 220 Plus days a Year, most of the time to places I have never been before, add that to the fact I get lost if I turn around in the bath-tub too fast and Bingo A Nav System is needed.. Plus that hal Like Voice repeting to me over and over "Turn Left in 1 mile" would keep my eyes on the road. From holio at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 18:47:00 2003 From: holio at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (holio@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:07:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: I have a 2001 330i with an Empeg install. Forget installing anything other than the AC where the AC lives. The ONLY alternative is to completely replace the existing headunit. Of course, you can forget about using the CD changer in the trunk. I did a complete install in my dash, and let me tell you it ain't the prettiest thing in the world. Further, I bought the PCATS tuner kit and the reception is not too great because I only spliced it into my antenna cable and need to go get the correct connector. There's so little room behind the dash area that everything barely fits... what a pain! As I am a BMW lover and intend to buy another one when my lease on this car runs out next year, I decided I could not go through the effort of Empeg installation again. I just bought a Phatnoise Phatbox which installs in the trunk and allows me to keep the stock headunit, but I don't get any printed info about the Artist/Song/Album/etc. on the headunit display. Instead, a voice will tell me what song I am listening to as songs change and allow me to change navigate my files. So, the Phatbox is a tradeoff -- much like anything else in the BMW and in life itself. It cost me almost $1000 USD to buy the thing, so it's awfully steep. If that's too rich for your blood, there are CD adapters that you can use to hook up a portable unit -- Ipod, Nomad Jukebox, Archos Jukebox -- through the changer control area in the back. That way you can keep the changer too. An adapter costs less than $100 USD, just make sure you get one that fits your needs (both the CD changer and aux in capability is what you'll want). Do some Google research... I'll probably keep my Empeg for another car but this is the right way to go in the BMW. Hell, with the new models coming out with the integrated NAV screens its only going to get harder... Adam From Satan_X at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 18:50:00 2003 From: Satan_X at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Satan_X@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I go VBR Lame with alt preset extreme. Why take chances.... From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 19:06:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Illuminated button install in the UK Message-ID: If you can offer your soldering station, I might have time to do one or two there.. Cheers From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 19:07:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Dumb Tuner Question Message-ID: Well, obviously just the Rio Remote. But substitute "Left" for "PrevTrack" and "Right" for "NextTrack" to do the same thing to the front panel buttons! Cheers From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 19:10:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] My Website (for docks etc..) Message-ID: Well, at 10am this morning, somebody at the telephone company did something to a router, and my ADSL link has been offline ever since. Not likely to get fixed before Monday or Tuesday, based on past experiences. So, anyone trying to check the dock order queue or other goodies there, well.. it ain't available! Meanwhile, this BBS isn't as bad as I'd guessed on a v.90 modem! Cheers From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 19:16:00 2003 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: > I did a complete install in my dash, and let me tell you it ain't the prettiest thing in the world....I decided I could not go through the effort of Empeg installation again. As I have said in another thread : I really hope that Hugo will make his "silly display repeater" available soon to the public, be it as a kit or a full product. At least that way the Empeg could be installed in the glove compartment and be controlled via a Sony stalk. This will become more and more so a necesity in the future, because more and more cars are being produced with factory head units that don't fit into a DIN slot anymore. A bad but unstoppable evolution if you ask me. Of all the brands that released new models that I'm interested in, ALL of them are shipped with factory head units (BMW, Audi, Alfa Romeo, Peugeot,...) From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 20:13:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: There is an Adapter to use the factor Changer with a No-factor Radio. My Co worker got it speical order from some place in call (he doesn't work with me any more but if I see him I'll get the info) he is even using the Factory AMp and speakers with his Empeg and in Dash alpine unit. From burnside at alaska.net Fri May 9 21:17:00 2003 From: burnside at alaska.net (Douglas Burnside) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: > An alternative to hot glue would be a silicone rubber sealer Don't do this. The silicone sets up and holds too strongly, making it nearly impossible to remove the cable without damaging it. I speak from experience, here. :-p) tanstaafl. From nospam at focus.demon.co.uk Fri May 9 22:00:00 2003 From: nospam at focus.demon.co.uk (Andy Norman) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: Every story about a new MP3 player always gets 50 bajillion posts to the tune of "Unless it supports OGG, I won't buy it". You guys can give them a big steaming cup of STFU. I won't stop the normal "why would you want to spend that much money on it ? I could build one myself for 50 cents" posts... From laura927 at one.net Fri May 9 22:01:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri May 9 22:08:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I was thinking that it would be nice to be listening to music when my empeg started playing while in my docking station on top of my desk. Interesting :-) Has anyone else had this happen? The cats weren't near it so they aren't the guilty ones (this time) of the crime. From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 22:16:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: What? You mean I can't make one from a mini-ITX motherboard and a few rolls of duck tape? ;-) It's like that "amazing" video sniffer that was on there recently. Turns out it was the guts of a receiver duck taped to a portable TV and battery... To be honest, actually reading the comments on a slashdot story is useless half the time. You get about 50 first posts, around 30 useful comments and around 300 trolls. I'm glad that the empeg BBS actually has a non zero signal to noise ratio:) Anyway, must go to sleep. It's like 2:15am here. Unfortunately my next door neighbour is having some party or something and it's driving me nuts. They're all having a big sing along but it's in Greek so I've got no clue what they're going on about! - Trevor From Tim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 22:19:00 2003 From: Tim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Tim) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Psychokenesis maybe? Spooky :-p) From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 22:28:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:12 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Yes, I have had it happen occasionally. No IR devices anywhere near. I thought it was a power spike or noisy environment, but never really traced it out. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 22:35:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: It's not related to the dock -- others have been reporting this for many many months now. Dunno what causes it yet. Cheers From laura927 at one.net Fri May 9 22:38:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I have no IR devices nearby either. I have to turn my TV on with a pen, no remote and the on button fell off. It would have scared me if it had happened in the middle of the night since it's in my bedroom :-) I am running the latest version of software with no hijack (sorry Mark, I just haven't gotten around to it). From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 22:40:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I am running the latest version of software with no hijack (sorry Mark, I just haven't gotten around to it).Music to my eyes! This is the first definite report of it happening WITHOUT hijack installed! And it's in Car-Mode (right?), just like all of the others! Put this thread into the Bug Reports forum, please! Cheers :-) :-) :-)... From laura927 at one.net Fri May 9 22:57:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Gee, and I thought you would be mad but instead you're happy I'm not running it. (decides that Mark doesn't like her any more }:-( ) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 23:05:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:09:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Apparently the outage was more significant than just my piddly 3mb/s link.. so they actually seem to have fixed it (X) now! Cheers From Shonky at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri May 9 23:07:00 2003 From: Shonky at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Shonky@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: WMA vs MP3 Message-ID: I exclusively use alt preset standard. However, with continuous albums (live etc), you get the slight dropout between tracks. I have not worked out a neat way to do this. It is possible to modify the LAME code to get gapless playback, however it's not possible to integrate that easily into EAC since it requires all tracks to be encoded at once by LAME. And I agree with Tony. I use MP3s because of the abundance of tools like tag editors, players etc that support MP3. I may switch to Ogg when it comes to v3, but I am happy with alt preset standard and haven't really found any source music that results in artifacts I can hear. From laura927 at one.net Fri May 9 23:11:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:07 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Mostly I'm happy cuz my ADSL link just came back on-line two minutes ago! That would make me happy too if mine went down. From laura927 at one.net Fri May 9 23:15:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Paul, when yours did this did you notice the volume keeps showing on the screen every 30 seconds or so by itself? I just posted this to the bug forum. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 00:09:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: To be honest, actually reading the comments on a slashdot story is useless half the time. You get about 50 first posts, around 30 useful comments and around 300 trolls. I'm glad that the empeg BBS actually has a non zero signal to noise ratio:) And the scary part, people now PAY to read Slashdot stories 20 minutes early. So that instead of being two days out of date, the stories are 1 day, 23 hours, and 40 minutes out of date. The funny thing is, (and I know Tom wouldn't even consider it) I would gladly pay Slashdot's subscription rates (and then some) if, in some alternate dimension, this BBS were subscription-based. I know many others would do the same. Funny how things work like that. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 00:49:00 2003 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I could come up with a payment rate, if you'd like. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 01:12:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Need Input Message-ID: Ok, After getting hopelessly lost today I have made up my mind. I need the Gps/Nav System and the Empeg one doesn't cut it for me :-) I have a few Questions. 1. Can a Empeg MK2 be mounted on its End ?? ie Display up (maybe in he center console ?? 2. Anyone know of anyway to get RCA Video from a Empeg Screen ??? ( then I could pipe it to a In dash unit, if not I can get some cheesy Pin Hole camera and Mickey Mouse it) 3. I have seen this name Tossed around on the boards " Camelot" what is it ??? 4. I have heard Tell someone is/has or might be building a Remote Disply for the Empeg any Info? 5. If the Empeg will not work Well mounted on end any other Empeg Like Devices that I can use?? From robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 01:19:00 2003 From: robricc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (robricc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: LQQk--- Need Input---KQQL Message-ID: 3. I have seen this name Tossed around on the boards " Camelot" what is it ???Pics I took of the Camelot can be seen here. Targeted at the OEM market, it will probably not be easy to get it into your car and you would probably have to pay car-dealer prices for it and wait 3-4 years for it to appear in cars. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 01:34:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: LQQk--- Need Input---KQQL Message-ID: Do us all a favor and save those kind of subject lines for your ebay sales. :-) From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 01:36:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri May 9 22:10:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: LQQk--- Need Input---KQQL Message-ID: Ok I changed it, I didn't see anything wrong with it but I don't want to pee on anyones Frosted Flakes "Do us all a favor and save those kind of subject lines for your ebay sales. Mk2a 60GB Blue. Serial 030102962 sig.mp3: File Format not Valid." From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 02:12:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:00:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: 1. Can a Empeg MK2 be mounted on its End ?? ie Display up (maybe in he center console ?? This is answered in the FAQ here. 2. Anyone know of anyway to get RCA Video from a Empeg Screen ??? This is answered in the FAQ here. 4. I have heard Tell someone is/has or might be building a Remote Disply for the Empeg any Info? I'd like to see this one publicly available, too. Someone please finish this project. :-) 5. If the Empeg will not work Well mounted on end any other Empeg Like Devices that I can use?? You could have one of the MP3 players which act like a CD changer, then if your nav/screen/CD thing could control a CD changer, you would just plug it in. An example of such a device is the Kenwood Music Keg, also marketed as the Phatnoise. There is a comparison between these products linked from the FAQ here. I see your problem. If I were critically dependent on a GPS system, but had to spend long hours in the car every day, I would be in a real quandary. I agree that the current revision of GPSapp isn't yet good enough for mission-critical navigation (although someday it could be if we keep working on it). But at the same time, there's no way I would want to spend long hours in the car without the empeg. Products like the Music Keg just aren't good enough for me. That's a pretty tough call. If it were me in this situation, then I'd use StreetAtlas on a laptop sitting on the passenger seat. The screen would be even bigger and more detailed than a dedicated nav system, and the software would be more easily updated. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 02:48:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:00:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: So No go on mounting it in the center console (At my owe risk) Drat... I was poking around and it seems Neo Car Jukebox has a Interface Widget that tricks Pioneer, Alpine and a few other head Units into thinking the neo box it one of there own cd changers.. this Sparks 2 new questions 1. Anyone Building one of this little Gems for the Empeg ? (Waits with baited breath for a yes answer) 2. anyone Own a Neo Car Jukebox and can give me the skinny on the quality of sound it makes and maybe a little input on form and function ? ( I checked out the Web site and other then a 90db SnR It had little usable info) From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 03:23:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:00:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: 1. Anyone Building one of this little Gems for the Empeg ? This one is answered in the FAQ here. As far as the form and function of the Neo unit is concerned... you'll find a few people here on the BBS who got rid of their Neo units and got an empeg instead, if that tells you anything. In other words, it's adequate, but you'll miss the rich functionality of the empeg. From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 03:29:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:00:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: So No go on mounting it in the center console (At my owe risk) Drat... Read the text carefully... All it might do is shorten the life of the disk drives. We don't have any specs on how much. Maybe not much, who knows? And even then, maybe you don't mind replacing the disk drives sometimes. Heck, there's plenty of other things that'll hurt the disk drives, like running them hot all the time. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 03:57:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:04 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Ok my Internal Display just gave me a ID10T Error, Just because I don't have room in the dash doesn't mean I can't build a Custom Console Under the dash for the Empeg (Sometimes I think me Brain is too hung up on ATM, Gig-e, FDDI, NAT,SAN, Etc to even think about little "if it would have been a snake it would have bit me" Fixes. From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 04:23:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Just because I don't have room in the dash doesn't mean I can't build a Custom Console Under the dash for the Empeg Sure, other people have done that. It's just that most cars don't have any space at all to do that in the center, and not enough space above the passenger's knees to do it. Here are two examples of doing just that kind of thing: Example 1 (hand made) Example 2 (aftermarket console for police radios) From Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 06:22:00 2003 From: Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Beamer325@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: Thanks for info you guys. I should have read the FAQ but to be honest I had the Empeg in a Golf for a year and thought I had remembered most of the installation stuff. The 325i is a saloon and it is the latest model with the integrated head unit in the dash, so it looks like I am pretty well beat on the dash install. Our second car is a 15 Yr old Merc 190 so it looks like it is going to be home for the Empeg for the forseeable future :-( I have a BMW Z4 on order and it looks like another nightmare to install in. Maybe by next year some of the more enterprising members here will have installed into a Z4. Thanks for your help folks. From rob at empeg.com Sat May 10 07:30:00 2003 From: rob at empeg.com (Rob Voisey) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:36 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: _Read the text carefully... All it might do is shorten the life of the disk drives_ If you mount it vertically (on end) then you're risking a lot more than that. The tray will sit on the wiring looms at the back of the player and potentially cut through the insulation eventually (so put lots of tape between them) and the rubber shock mounts will almost certainly come out of the tray after a few months, causing the entire disk assembly to float around loose. I know people have been running their players like this and it doesn't necessarily cause problems, but of course it could damage the drives, short out something inside the player, or bring about armageddon. Rob From draos at 4mate.hr Sat May 10 08:01:00 2003 From: draos at 4mate.hr (Dragi Raos) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:44 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: MK3 ??? Message-ID: > I do, I am on the road 220 Plus days a Year, most of the time to places I have never been before, add that to the fact I get lost if I turn around in the bath-tub too fast and Bingo A Nav System is needed.. Ugh! &:*) I like travelling, but too much is too much! What kind of job is that? (I could only think of trucking or rental car repositioning, but then you don't drive your car...) > Plus that hal Like Voice repeting to me over and over "Turn Left in 1 mile" would keep my eyes on the road. All is good untill you try to open a door, and it says 'I am sorry, Dave, I am affraid I can not to that!' From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 08:43:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:51 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Greetings! Not volume, no. When it does happen, it seems to just be a poweron. It can happen in both car and AC modes, though. Before I had the dock, I had this happen in AC mode too. There is another thread where Tony mentions that it could be a noisy IR input. I think I agree with that. I have had other symptoms of phantom pushes, but mine are always alternating source (aux/player) very quickly. It stops on a button press. There are a few threads about this one too - but they all seem to be the same general symptom: spurious IR or control signals. Maybe even the player waking in the car might be tied to this as well... I suspect either some debounce logic, or the IR input is picking up / generating noise. One of these days (it happens too rarely for me to test with any consistancy), I will put the IR debug up, to see if it is "seeing" any coherent (or incoherent) signals. Is there any good way to test if the IR receiver is starting to deteriorate somehow? From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 09:02:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:01:58 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Last night I ended up pulling it out of the dock because it started playing 10 mintues after I powered it off. This morning I pushed it back into the docking station and it started right up. I don't think this has anything to do with IR signals. From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 09:13:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:05 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I stuck it back in and powered it off and it took 4 minutes for it to start playing again. I'm going to have to test it in the van, as soon as the rain ever stops, to see if this behavior is going to happen in the sled also. This could be a big problem if it won't stay turned off now for some reason. From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 10:35:00 2003 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Has anyone else had this happen? The cats weren't near it so they aren't the guilty ones (this time) of the crime.I still suspect the cats. This happens to a friend of mine, too (1.03, no Hijack), and cats are the only common factor that I can see. I reckon it's their invisible infra-red mind control rays... you know, the thing where they walk into the room and suddenly, without anything Shannon would recognise as information transfer, it's "Oooh, Lottie's hungry"... Peter From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 10:52:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: cats are the only common factor that I can see. I reckon it's their invisible infra-red mind control rays... Maybe that is it because they were in the room everytime, just not near the empeg controls :-) From BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 12:02:00 2003 From: BryanR at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BryanR@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:25 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Okay, okay, everyone, I get the point - I need a hot glue gun! Down to Maplins it is, then... Thanks for your advice. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 12:35:00 2003 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:31 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Which brand was that?! From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 12:56:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:38 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Thank you for the Info I feared as much... let me get out my trusty ruler and see if I can shoe Horn it under the dash.. If not I can mount it under the Seat and find some way to remote the display With a CHeesy Video camera. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 13:18:00 2003 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: My Website (for docks etc..) Message-ID: Maybe they can come fix our router issues ;-). Stu From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 13:21:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:02:53 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I don't think this has anything to do with IR signals. If it is related to IR signals, I don't think it would be "stray IR" like you're thinking. It would be more like: Something wrong the circuitry causes the IR sensor to behave as though it's getting stray signals even when there are none. Question about the Mk2a volume control: It's optical, right? Is it infrared? Maybe the casing of the encoder leaks a bit... :-) From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 13:23:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Fixing that HD cable! Message-ID: Okay, okay, everyone, I get the point - I need a hot glue gun! Down to Maplins it is, then... :-) Just make sure to to heed the warning labels about how the glue guns can burn you. Mine says "Unplug after suing." Gotta love spell checkers. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 13:25:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:08 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Okay, Rob, you win. :-) From Rue at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 13:28:00 2003 From: Rue at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Rue@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:15 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Unless I'm mistaken, sometimes my encoder seems to rest at the point where even the slightest touch causes the volume bar to display. Perhaps it's something as simple as this? From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 14:59:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:22 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Ya know, Laura, if you'd only break down and install Hijack, this behaviour should cease, at least while docked. If I recall correctly, people only observe this when the player is running in DC/Car mode.. (at this point, seven people churp in with reports of it on AC/Home, right?). :-) Cheers From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 15:02:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:28 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ir_translate codes for faster volups/downs Message-ID: I don't know of a way to do what you want with any existing Hijack features. Also, this has been discussed quite recently in other threads, and the upshot was that perhaps Hijack should just take over the volume controls 100% -- that way we could fix this annoyance, and also have independent volume memory for each source, on AC or DC power.. etc. Cheers From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 15:09:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Well, one... I would have it sitting in the cube at work (before the docking station), so it was fully in AC mode, and it would suddenly power-up. From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 15:14:00 2003 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:42 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: At this point, seven people churp in with reports of it on AC/Home right?The friend of mine that this happens to, has it happen on AC power. If we assume, for the sake of argument, that domestic cats do not, in fact, spontaneously emit valid consumer IR pulse-trains, then my money is on some kind of capacitative glitching on the display board, building up very slowly but eventually causing the PIC to register an instantaneous top-button press. Perhaps if front-panel buttons were debounced a bit more it could be fixed in software? Peter From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 15:37:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:03:49 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: It's happening in AC power on mine also. I guess I'm going to have to keep it unplugged or pull it slightly out of the sled unless I want to listen to it. It's not random on mine now, it's happening constantly. Took a little over an hour this time to come back on but it won't stay off. From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 16:02:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:01 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: building up very slowly but eventually causing the PIC to register an instantaneous top-button press Or, in Laura's case, a volume-knob turn. Remeber that any IR command or button press will wake up the player. Here's an idea. Not a solution to the hardware problem, but a band-aid that might be useful: An option in Hijack (perhaps in config.ini) which says that only a specified set of button presses or events can wake up the player from standby, it ignores all other commands. For instance, tell it that only a top-button press can wake up the player, or only a knob press, or a press of the power button on the Rio remote, etc. That way, if it's random commands (for whatever reason) causing the wake-ups, you'd eliminate 99 percent of them. Is that even possible to do? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 16:46:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I don't see why it shouldn't be possible. The kernel knows when the display is off and it can just swallow all IR commands apart from say the power button one. And once it gets that one then it will do the normal thing and allow everything to pass. - Trevor From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 17:50:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: How would I go about doing that? Or in other words exactly what would I need to put in config.ini? From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 19:17:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: How would I go about doing that? Or in other words exactly what would I need to put in config.ini? Something like this might work: [Dear Mark] Please=Add this feature for me. I'd be=eternally grateful. From mhomann at netscape.net Sat May 10 19:24:00 2003 From: mhomann at netscape.net (Mathias Homann) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Question about the serial cable... Message-ID: Hi, dumb question: Is that serial cable that comes with an Mk2 a null modem cable? bye, [L] From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 19:29:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Question about the serial cable... Message-ID: Yes. It's supposed to be. Unless you got the wrong one. Some of the Mk2 empeg owners got shipped the wrong one. Continuity test pins 2 and 3 to find out. From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 19:32:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: [Dear Mark] Please=Add this feature for me. I'd be=eternally grateful. Then I'd even put hijack back on it :-) From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 19:33:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:52 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Cuss Cuss Swear Swear Dirty Word Dirty Word Dirty Word. No room under the dash }:-( My only Options would me to make a Pod that mounts on the top of the dash to hold the Empeg and I bet that would get me a ticket for blocking my View a little }:-( HUmmmmm The only part that would be effected by mounting the Empeg on its end would be the hard drive(s) and carrier.. Anyone know off the top of there head how long a Drive cable can be used (Ie could I relocate the drives else were outside of the Empeg Case (Bah Even I don't like this idea now that I have said it) Never mind... I am back to square one... I wonder if my Fiberglass skills could make a Pod to fit on the top of the dash to hold the Empeg ??? Wonder how much trouble it would get me in with the Poilice :-) Suggestions ?? From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 19:37:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:04:59 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: You know, there have been plenty of people who did custom work to re-arrange the mounting positions of various components in their dash. It's a lot of work, but do-able in many cases. For example, replacing sectional panels with custom fiberglass moldings, that sort of thing. Do you have any pictures of your dash? From V99 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 19:50:00 2003 From: V99 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (V99@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: 4. I have heard Tell someone is/has or might be building a Remote Disply for the Empeg any Info? I'd like to see this one publicly available, too. Someone please finish this project. Mine is getting there.. a few more weeks ;-) From mhomann at netscape.net Sat May 10 20:06:00 2003 From: mhomann at netscape.net (Mathias Homann) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:13 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Question about the serial cable... Message-ID: my cable works correctly for serial connections to the empeg, does that mean it is a correct nullmodem? bye, [L] From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 20:09:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:20 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Question about the serial cable... Message-ID: Yes. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 20:39:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I do now, Here are the photos of my Problem Notice how the Radio Mount has to come out away from the dash so the Empeg will fit. http://home.attbi.com/~jlipchit/empeg1.jpg http://home.attbi.com/~jlipchit/empeg2.jpg Notice how the Wireing hardness has to be Tucked Under the Empeg Dock and Notice how the Rear of the Dock is almost Flush against the Heating/ Ac duct http://home.attbi.com/~jlipchit/empeg3.jpg This is how much Front View I would loose The Empeg Mounted on the dash, ALso the Sun would beat down on it and it would be a Nice "Steal me" sign for passers by. http://home.attbi.com/~jlipchit/empeg4.jpg From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 20:56:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:33 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Looking at the photos, especially at the amount of extra space around the empeg mount and the pocket below, I'll bet there's room in there for two DIN sized stereos with the right installation kit and some careful work. Remove the pocket and the mount and you've got a double-DIN opening that just needs the right kinds of coaxing to fit. Do you know of a nav system which is only a single DIN with the screen? Or at least where one of the two components of the nav system could be mounted in the glove box? From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 21:01:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:40 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I tried that the bottom pocket is barely 1 inch and even if I built a custom mount I can't get the space I need with out moving all the Ac/heater ducts and moving the Vents up about 3/4 of an Inch, that pocket is not even 2 inches deep Chassis Size (W x H x D)in : 7”x2”x 6-1/2” From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 21:03:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:47 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Well, there's gotta be something we can do... From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 21:23:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:05:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I hope so, I just checked no 3/4 or half din nav systems... Top to Bottom the Total Size of the opening is 5 3/4 Inches 14.605 Cm The Nose Part of the mount Comes out about 3/4 of an Inch 1.905Cm from Flush The Bottom Pocket is 1 5/8 Inch High 4.1275Cm No room to tapper up a new mount and still clear everything the Custom mount would be a Block 5.75inch 14.605 Cm high and Comming out nearly 1 inch 2.54cm from the dash with No taper it would fit but could I shoe horn in all the wires needed ? From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 22:02:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Naw, let's find/fix the bug instead. Since Laura can reproduce this bug very easily, and she's more than competent technically, this oughta be a breeze! Could you hook up a notebook computer to the serial port, install Hijack, and set "ir_debug=1" in the [hijack] section of config.ini ? Then just put it in standby, and wait for it to wake up again. The serial log will tell the story for us. Post it. Thanks! From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 22:16:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Cheap Way to see if its an IR signel or something else... Cover the IR sensor with a Piece of Electrical Tape , if it still turns it self back on then its not a IR signel :0 From DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat May 10 22:47:00 2003 From: DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DeadFire@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:19 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I'm wondering what you might find inside the dashboard below that thin empty pocket. In order to keep my empeg where I want it (in the dash, where it belongs), I'd gladly cut up that lip that sticks out under that pocket and get myself a custom piece molded to make it look nice, creating a "stock-looking" and true 2 DIN space for whatever I wanted to install. For example, the empeg and the dash piece of a 2 piece Nav that is DIN mountable. But I won't even consider a new car if my empeg wouldn't have a home in the dash ;-), so that's just my .02. > Edit: There are tons of DIN receivers with monitors which should be able to accept the video output from a navigation system. But, of course, I have no idea what you're willing to spend, or what specific features you want in a nav system. From laura927 at one.net Sat May 10 22:58:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Can I do it using my desktop computer? From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 23:47:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:34 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Edit: There are tons of DIN receivers with monitors which should be able to accept the video output from a navigation system. But, of course, I have no idea what you're willing to spend, or what specific features you want in a nav system. In fact, I've been thinking about this... His problem is that he doesn't have a double-din space in his dash, so he can't have the empeg and a nav system... But all the nav systems I've seen require a double-din space anyway: One for the generic screen and one for the nav computer. So even if he just dumped the empeg completely he'd still be kind of stuck. Right? From tfabris at jps.net Sat May 10 23:52:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:41 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Can I do it using my desktop computer? Any computer that'll connect with hyperterminal, as detailed here, will do. From laura927 at one.net Sun May 11 00:08:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:48 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Ok, now that I am done painting for the night I'll give it a go and report back. From laura927 at one.net Sun May 11 00:41:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sat May 10 22:06:55 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: I installed Hijack, had to read how to edit config.ini again (been so long I forgot) and I have hyperterminal open and waiting. And as I was writing this it woke up and started so here is what happened. So what does this mean? Poll wait Poll fail Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003 Vcb: 0x4086d000 Poll wait Poll fail 16743: IA1:0000000b,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16743: IA2:0000000b.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16743: ENQ.I: @c0124cc8: 0000000b.0 16744: DEQ.I: @c0124cc8: 0000000b.0 16744: ENQ.P: @c0124e54: 0000000b.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 16745: DEQ.P: @c0124e54: 0000000b.0 Poll wait Poll fail 16748: IA1:00fffffe,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16748: IA2:00fffffe.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16748: ENQ.I: @c0124cd0: 00fffffe.0 16749: IA1:00ffffff,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16749: IA2:00ffffff.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16750: DEQ.I: @c0124cd0: 00fffffe.0 16750: ENQ.P: @c0124e5c: 00fffffe.0 Wakeup Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 16752: DEQ.P: @c0124e5c: 00fffffe.0 Poll wait Poll fail 16860: IA1:0000000a,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16860: IA2:0000000a.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 16860: ENQ.I: @c0124cd8: 0000000a.0 16861: DEQ.I: @c0124cd8: 0000000a.0 16861: ENQ.P: @c0124e64: 0000000a.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 16862: DEQ.P: @c0124e64: 0000000a.0 Poll wait Poll fail From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 00:57:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:07:02 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: Most of the systems I am looking at are a Single Din Unit with a Remote box for the GPs/Nav cd/dvd but I had an Idea anyone know how well the Empeg takes Vibrations ? I could mount it on the Amp rack with a Remote entender and a Cheesy Video Pin Hole Camera... Only part that worries me is the Amp rack is sitting on 2 12" Diamond Audio TDX 12D4 Subs. now sure how the Empeg would like that kind of vibration. From tfabris at jps.net Sun May 11 01:22:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat May 10 22:07:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: anyone know how well the Empeg takes Vibrations ? I'm going to have to personally show you how to use the search feature in the FAQ. Entry here. Question: Why would mounting it in the amp rack be any different than mounting it in the dash in terms of vibration? In any case, the remote extender and cheesy camera thing would probably work. Even better, a steering wheel remote. I'd be curious to see someone actually get the video camera trick working and show photos of it. I want to see the Empeg face displaying on a car-DVD screen. :-) So which GPS unit are you thinking of getting? From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 01:24:00 2003 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:07:16 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I'm going to have to personally show you how to use the search feature in the FAQ. Entry here. Hmm, I guess in these tough economic times, empeg doesn't have any spare funds to send you out to personal "FAQ coaching" sessions. From belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 01:45:00 2003 From: belezeebub at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (belezeebub@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat May 10 22:07:23 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: I read that part of the FAQ but what worried me was the note about SPL compatitions and Possible Issues.. as for what differance it would make let me put it like this. if you mount a Paint shaker to a Table no big deal... if you sit on the table with the paint shaker on the table vibrates... but if you sit on the paint shaker you vibrate. And that doesn't include the Magnatic field of being that close to the speaker magnets... (I had this speaker box in my house for a few days while I Gel coated it and I can tell you first had it really played havoc with my TV when it was too close. From jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 03:04:00 2003 From: jwickis at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jwickis@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:00:37 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: Alright, I hadn't heard from you for awhile, website gone, no email and no PM acceptance tends to make a person wonder. I don't expect fast food service but four months seemed a bit long to me and you did tell me one more week, one more. I'm not trying to be a bad person about this but no contact does feed that. I tried contacting you via other means but that wasn't possible. I guess I must be the only person asking about my order. Thanks for the notice. From JaBZ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 07:26:00 2003 From: JaBZ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (JaBZ@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:00:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Best Portable player right now? Message-ID: I want one.... Since sonic blue is gone, where will Rio products be sold from?, new website? Will it allow international ordering? I'd rather order it from US than UK, as our US exchange rate is healthier :-) I'm in NZ... From JaBZ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 07:59:00 2003 From: JaBZ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (JaBZ@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:00:54 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Palantir 0.70 released - bugfixes and new features Message-ID: Any chance of a Pocket PC version? From Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 08:14:00 2003 From: Beamer325 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Beamer325@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:03 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: BMW 325 Empeg install help Message-ID: UPDATE - Now driving my 325i - what a lovely car to drive. Only one thin missing, no surprises.... the Empeg :-( HUGO AKA Altman, if you read this please, please, finish your project, and make me happy with my Empeg in the BMW Al From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 10:54:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:11 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Did all of that happen AFTER it woke up? I'd like to see the entire sequence from when you put the player into standby, if possible. Cheers From laura927 at one.net Sun May 11 11:03:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:18 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Ok, will do. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 11:03:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:27 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Oh, and in answer to "what does it mean", here's the button presses that the player sees from the sequence you posted: 0000000b = KnobLeft 00fffffe = IR_FAKE_INITIAL <--- internally generated by hijack 0000000a = KnobRight Cheers From laura927 at one.net Sun May 11 11:12:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:35 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Here is a bootup sequence of it now. empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 (hugo@empeg.com) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux! e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... Calling linux kernel... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne l. Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v334 (root@ibbm) (gcc version 2.95 .3 20010315 (release)) #2 Sat Apr 26 10:31:47 EDT 2003 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40103872) Command line: mem=16m Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 14996k/16M available (996k code, 20k reserved, 368k data, 4k init) Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384) IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli) IrCOMM protocol (Dag Brattli) Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART Signature is 67706d65 'empg' Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1 Scheduling custom logo. empeg display initialised. empeg dsp audio initialised empeg dsp mixer initialised empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 empeg remote control/panel button initialised. empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005980). empeg RDS driver initialised empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot) RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDE Probing primary interface... hdb: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, ATA DISK drive hdb: IC25T060ATCS05-0, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: FUJITSU MHL2300AT, 28615MB w/2048kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63 hdb: IC25T060ATCS05-0, 57231MB w/1768kB Cache, CHS=7296/255/63 empeg-flash driver initialized smc chip id/revision 0x3349 smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu) SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:0f:2 0 Partition check: hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 < hda2 hda3 hda4 hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 < hdb2 hdb3 hdb4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done. VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly. change_root: old root has d_count=1 Trying to unmount old root ... okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 Mounting second music partition Remounting first music partition read-only Remounting second music partition read-only Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply... Starting player Hijack: intercepting config.ini hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection" khttpd: listening on port 80 kftpd: listening on port 21 player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01. Poll wait Poll fail Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003 Vcb: 0x4086d000 1306: IA1:00fffffe,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 1306: IA2:00fffffe.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 1306: ENQ.I: @c0124cc8: 00fffffe.0 1307: IA1:00ffffff,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 1307: IA2:00ffffff.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 1307: DEQ.I: @c0124cc8: 00fffffe.0 1308: ENQ.P: @c0124e54: 00fffffe.0 Wakeup Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 1310: DEQ.P: @c0124e54: 00fffffe.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2334: IA1:00000006,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2334: IA2:00000006.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2334: ENQ.I: @c0124cd0: 00000006.0 2335: DEQ.I: @c0124cd0: 00000006.0 2335: ENQ.P: @c0124e5c: 00000006.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2336: DEQ.P: @c0124e5c: 00000006.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2355: IA1:00000007,dk=00000006,dr=0,lk=0 2355: IA2:00000007.R,dk=00000006,dr=0,lk=0 2355: ENQ.I: @c0124cd8: 00000007.0 2356: DEQ.I: @c0124cd8: 00000007.0 2356: ENQ.P: @c0124e64: 00000007.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2358: DEQ.P: @c0124e64: 00000007.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2846: IA1:00000002,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2846: IA2:00000002.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2846: ENQ.I: @c0124ce0: 00000002.0 2847: DEQ.I: @c0124ce0: 00000002.0 2847: ENQ.P: @c0124e6c: 00000002.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2848: DEQ.P: @c0124e6c: 00000002.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2864: IA1:00000003,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2864: IA2:00000003.R,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2864: ENQ.I: @c0124ce8: 00000003.0 2865: DEQ.I: @c0124ce8: 00000003.0 2865: ENQ.P: @c0124e74: 00000003.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2867: DEQ.P: @c0124e74: 00000003.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2887: IA1:00000002,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2887: IA2:00000002.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2887: ENQ.I: @c0124cf0: 00000002.0 2888: DEQ.I: @c0124cf0: 00000002.0 2889: ENQ.P: @c0124e7c: 00000002.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2890: DEQ.P: @c0124e7c: 00000002.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2905: IA1:00000003,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2905: IA2:00000003.R,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2905: ENQ.I: @c0124cf8: 00000003.0 2907: DEQ.I: @c0124cf8: 00000003.0 2907: ENQ.P: @c0124e84: 00000003.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2908: DEQ.P: @c0124e84: 00000003.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2926: IA1:00000002,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2926: IA2:00000002.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2926: ENQ.I: @c0124d00: 00000002.0 2928: DEQ.I: @c0124d00: 00000002.0 2928: ENQ.P: @c0124e8c: 00000002.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2930: DEQ.P: @c0124e8c: 00000002.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2943: IA1:00000003,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2943: IA2:00000003.R,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2943: ENQ.I: @c0124d08: 00000003.0 2944: DEQ.I: @c0124d08: 00000003.0 2944: ENQ.P: @c0124e94: 00000003.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2946: DEQ.P: @c0124e94: 00000003.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2966: IA1:00000002,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2966: IA2:00000002.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 2966: ENQ.I: @c0124d10: 00000002.0 2967: DEQ.I: @c0124d10: 00000002.0 2967: ENQ.P: @c0124e9c: 00000002.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2969: DEQ.P: @c0124e9c: 00000002.0 Poll wait Poll fail 2983: IA1:00000003,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2983: IA2:00000003.R,dk=00000002,dr=0,lk=0 2983: ENQ.I: @c0124d18: 00000003.0 2985: DEQ.I: @c0124d18: 00000003.0 2985: ENQ.P: @c0124ea4: 00000003.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 2987: DEQ.P: @c0124ea4: 00000003.0 Poll wait Poll fail 3035: IA1:00000006,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 3035: IA2:00000006.P,dk=00ffffff,dr=0,lk=0 3035: ENQ.I: @c0124d20: 00000006.0 3036: DEQ.I: @c0124d20: 00000006.0 3036: ENQ.P: @c0124eac: 00000006.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 3037: DEQ.P: @c0124eac: 00000006.0 Poll wait Poll fail 3055: IA1:00000007,dk=00000006,dr=0,lk=0 3055: IA2:00000007.R,dk=00000006,dr=0,lk=0 3055: ENQ.I: @c0124d28: 00000007.0 3056: DEQ.I: @c0124d28: 00000007.0 3056: ENQ.P: @c0124eb4: 00000007.0 Wakeup Wakeup Poll ok 3057: DEQ.P: @c0124eb4: 00000007.0 Poll wait Poll fail Poll wait Poll fail I have it in standby now and will post when it wakes up which won't take it long. From cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:11:00 2003 From: cushman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cushman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:43 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Palantir 0.70 released - bugfixes and new feat Message-ID: Sure, if someone donates a PocketPC, I will write a PocketPC version of Palantir :-) Otherwise, I don't have any hardware to test the program on. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:13:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:01:50 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Good. Note that those ever-increasing numbers that prefix most lines are timestamps, in 100ths of a second. When it wakes up again, you may note a huge gap in timestamps between earlier messages and the ones after it woke up. I need to see all of the messages spanning that gap -- the two or three immediately beforehand, and everything afterwards. Thanks From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:15:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:00 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Oh, I'm heading out for a long hike to a remote geocache.. might not be back for a while, but please post away! From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:22:00 2003 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:09 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: I still haven't been able to locate the 1/16". We were able to depth cut some lenses in 1/8" stock. We haven't tried it on the non-neon 1/6" stock yet. There is some faint scorching along side the depth cuts but its minor. As a test, some non-neon 1/8" material was depth cut but as we guessed, it was very difficult to notice any difference. Overall, I think this will work if I can find some 1/16" stock. The 1/8" does not fit 303's fascia at all. I know that you are busy but have you been able to test this yet? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:24:00 2003 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:17 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Neat. I've only been geocaching twice but it was a good laugh each time. Luckily it was a nice day on both times. You going to leave anything cool? - Trevor From laura927 at one.net Sun May 11 12:25:00 2003 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:24 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: Usually it wakes right back up but it has decided that it is tired. Have fun and I'll post whatever it says :-) From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 12:39:00 2003 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:32 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Transparent acrylic sheet supplier? Message-ID: ...if there was ever a design / layout that needed an illuminated buttonhack... It looks good, but it just cries out to have that knob and LEDs glowing too. From tfabris at jps.net Sun May 11 13:32:00 2003 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:39 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: So you're saying your amp rack is connected to your subwoofers? Yeah, I wouldn't mount the empeg right next to the subwoofers. You could come up with an alternate location I'm sure. From d33zY at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 14:17:00 2003 From: d33zY at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (d33zY@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:46 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: This is answered in the FAQ here. This is answered in the FAQ here. linked from the FAQ here. This one is answered in the FAQ here. in the FAQ. Entry here. Can you please link the entry in the FAQ for me that pertains to the purpose of life? Also, if you could, point me towards the empeg FAQ entry that explains how to turn the empeg into a time machine using only a toaster and an allen wrench. From DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 14:19:00 2003 From: DeadFire at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (DeadFire@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:02:57 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: Need Input Message-ID: So basically my crazy idea about cutting up the dash to create a double DIN space has been dismissed. :-p) That's fine. It was crazy. From decay at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 14:57:00 2003 From: decay at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (decay@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:03:06 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: ir_translate codes for faster volups/downs Message-ID: Oh, that's strange. I though this could be easily done the way I was trying, well, guess I'm wrong again :-) Well. Seems like I need to wait for the upcoming versions of Hijack. Thanks! From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun May 11 15:59:00 2003 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun May 11 22:03:14 2003 Subject: [Empeg-general] Re: empeg self started while in my docking station Message-ID: