From cjb28 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 1 08:29:00 2004 From: cjb28 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (cjb28@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 1 23:00:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Tuner Kit Message-ID: No, I have not messed with it in a while. Basically I have a $200 item sitting in a box with my riocar stuff. I suspect there is something wrong with the large chip, but cannot verify. It has taken a back seat to other things I have been doing because I was getting nowhere with it. So I haven't touched it in months. I remember a post a long time ago saying that they would hate to ever see one not ever get put to use because it doesn't work. But thats where I am with it. I guess, worst comes to worst I would like to send it to pcats and see if he can diagnose (or) fix it. I would hate to have it never get used. Well, let me know if you find any news. At this point it's in limbo for me. Chris From BREmpeg at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 1 11:35:00 2004 From: BREmpeg at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BREmpeg@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 1 23:00:28 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Tuner Kit Message-ID: I'm in the same position as you. My tuner never worked and I can't find a solution. Maybe someone has some news. It's very dificult for me to send it back or to any of the people who assemble them cause I live in Brazil. It will be too expensive to do that. Thanks anyway. I will let you know if I can find something. From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 1 11:43:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 1 23:00:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Playlist not updating Message-ID: Are you sure you put those songs into a playlist? Perhaps they're just in the soup. Did you actually press the "Synchronize" button? Did it work, or did it give an error message? From rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 06:50:00 2004 From: rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rtundo@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:24 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: I set up Jules windows VNC viewer for possible use in my car. I first tried to get it to run in the house using my Windows computer. Everything comes up on the VGA monitor EXCEPT the text for the Song info (both current song and the next song list). I see the proper colors and the song time moves down below. Also, you can see the menu overlay come up and works. Anyone know why the song text may not be coming up. Does it not work on computer screens just TV-out, is it a font issue or something else? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 07:28:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:29 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: You put notify=1 in the [output] section of config.ini? From rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 08:22:00 2004 From: rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rtundo@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: Yes, I have notify=1 under [output]. (I forgot to mention that empegVNC works with the unmodified realvnc program. That is I see the display of the empeg being updated realtime like your supposed to.) From no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 13:31:00 2004 From: no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (no1kn0w@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: After about 3 years I pulled out my MK1 and decided I was going to hook it back up and stop using CD's. So I went and downloaded the latest update and the latest version of emplode. I can't get the empeg to update for some reason, its not finding it. But I think that might not be that big of a deal becuase its running version 2.0a3 beta. But when I try to load emplode it sticks and freezes on "getting visuals list". anyone know why? The empeg will sit there and continue to play but randomly reboots while its trying to pull the visuals list. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 13:35:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: 2.0 beta 3? You may wish to try and load a more recent copy of the software. Have you tried upgrading to 2.0 final? From no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 13:37:00 2004 From: no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (no1kn0w@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:47 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: Yes, but it won't find my player and I got frustrated and quit trying. I guess the best thing to do would be just to use a different computer. What is meant by a "null serial cable" I just went and bought a normal serial cable from radio shack. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 13:43:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:54 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: Hmmm... That might be part of the problem. A null modem cable has the transmit and receive pins swapped along the length of the cable, so that the empeg's send connects to the PC's receive, etc. There are other pins changed, but those are the basic data ones. If you just bought a straight cable (a default 9 pin serial), those pins are not switched and your empeg and computer will not be able to connect. You need the correct cable. You might want to try this out as well - it is the FAQ entry for setting up and testing serial connections. This is probably your best first step: upgrade to 2.0 final developer version for the Empeg Mark1. Edit: linked to appropriate binary... From no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 14:02:00 2004 From: no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (no1kn0w@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:00:58 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: You are correct. The serial cable isn't working. So I guess I need to go hunt down a "null" serial cable.. any ideas? Can you find them at computer stores or radio shack? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 14:11:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:01:04 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: Radio shack should have them, but I would recommend calling ahead to make sure. A computer store would have them as well. This would not immediately solve the problem with your player. Unfortunately, any debugging (through terminal or upgrade) would require the serial link first. From no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 14:34:00 2004 From: no1kn0w at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (no1kn0w@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:01:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: thanks for the help Paul. I've now got it upgraded and emplode is working right. Everything is good to go thanks to you (and my local radio shack :-) From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 15:12:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:01:15 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: MK1 update and emplode problems Message-ID: Cool! :-) From ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 3 21:57:00 2004 From: ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ashmoore@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 3 23:01:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Playlist not updating Message-ID: Gee thanks Mark! ;-) No, this is the first time this has happened, although it is a while since I added new stuff and I am getting older........ From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 4 12:15:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 4 23:00:19 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] ICT 18CV8-25 Message-ID: We have been troubleshooting a nonoperational display. As near as we can tell, it is a damaged ICT 18CV8-25 that is to blame. Anyone know what this chip does in the display circuit or how to get more. Stu From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 4 16:11:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 4 23:00:25 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: ICT 18CV8-25 Message-ID: As it's a PEEL you might want to talk to Hugo or Patrick about it. They're probably the only people that know what it's been programmed with. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 4 16:19:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 4 23:00:29 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: ICT 18CV8-25 Message-ID: That's pretty much what I figured. Thanks! Stu From rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 4 17:40:00 2004 From: rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rtundo@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 4 23:00:35 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: With Jule's version I always get an "h" followed by a squre box instead of a song title. I get a "8," followed by a box instead of the artist. I get a "0^" instead of the album and year. Nothing appears in the next list down below. From siberia37 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 4 21:29:00 2004 From: siberia37 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (siberia37@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 4 23:00:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: I don't think Notify=1 will have any effect on the Empeg VNC server if that's what your talking about. The VNC server grabs the screen memory buffer from the Empeg repeatadly. If somethings not showing up it may be a bug in the Empeg VNC server. From mvigneau at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 10:49:00 2004 From: mvigneau at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mvigneau@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] It's Alive (with history and links) Message-ID: Well, After a 3 month hiatus, my RIO/Empeg is alive and kicking (and playing music!!!). It all started one dreary day (ok, I won’t bore you with a long story) but you all know what happened, I got the dreaded No Hard Disk Found…Contact Support error. After deciding it wasn’t the IDE cable or any of the other things on the FAQs, we replaced the CS4231A chip (remember the chip’s name (scary!!!)). That didn’t work but because of a minimum order, I purchased 7 (which I think would work now). We replaced it with a second one of my chips that I bought with no luck. Well, MACZROOL sent me one of the original chips and we tried that and guess what, didn’t fix it. Well, this stumped everyone except MLORD who offered to look at it if I sent him the board. Well how could I pass up that kind of offer, so I sent it to him. He looked at it and found out the Ethernet chip was the culprit. Unfortunately he destroyed a pin on the LVX4245 chip and the pads on the SMSC91C96 and LVX4245(when we pulled up the pin, we didn’t see one). I ordered 2 new SMSC91C96($10/each) chips and 4 LVX4245 ($2 each) chips (2 of 2 different sizes). We soldered the new chips on and resoldered the USB chip (don’t know the part number). Tested it and it came up fine!!! Put it back into the case and voila, a working RIO that plays music again and can transfer my music over Ethernet again!!! So, again thanks to TFabris, Maczrool, especially MLord, and a Huge thanks to the lady that solders SMT chips so professionally, without all of you, my RIO would be another paperweight. THANKS!!!! Link to MLords page: http://rtr.ca/NHDFCS_empeg/ Link to previous thread1: http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= Link to previous thread2: http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= Link to LVX91C96 thread: http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= Original Thread: http://empeg.comms.net/php/showflat.php?Cat= From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 12:50:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:30 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: It's Alive (with history and links) Message-ID: Well, very good! I'm puzzled as to how the D5 line on the ethernet chip managed to die in the first place, but those things do happen from time to time with sensitive electronic devices in harsh environments, so.. Cheers From mp3 at html.net Mon Apr 5 13:10:00 2004 From: mp3 at html.net (John Lee) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:35 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Dropped Empeg: No Hard Disk Found:Picture Included Message-ID: The day the music died. My empeg dropped to the floor inside of it's padded bag at the office. Luckily the screen didnt break (which i replaced myself before) and the cable seems fine (which I have replaced as well). I am getting No Hard Disk Found message. I opened the box to find two burn marks on the motherboard. I have included a poor picture from a cell phone camera of the motherboard. The two marks rest between the screen and the shock mount plate. What do you think? PS: I am dying without my empeg. I cant live without it. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 13:15:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:40 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Dropped Empeg: No Hard Disk Found:Picture Incl Message-ID: Very carefully examine the display cable -- frequently this gets pinched by the hard drive bay on impact, cutting one or more of the wires on the display ribbon cable. cheers From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 15:49:00 2004 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:46 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Which way is faster? Message-ID: I'm transfering gobbs of FID's to my players since my recent HD upgrades. I've restored the fids on my main player and one other but still working on restoring/synchronising at least 2 other players at the moment. It's nearly 85gb worth of FID's so using WsFTP takes a VERY LONG TIME. Would it be faster to use one of the players to transfer the info from drive to drive by installing one of the new drives and the drive I want to copy from my main player into one unit and doing the "cp -auvfx /driveX/fids /driveX/" thing? If I remember right, when I upgrqaded my main player I did this and it transferred roughly 24gb in 7 hours or so. If this is right, it's about 3 times faster than what I'm getting with WsFTP right now. From tfabris at jps.net Mon Apr 5 15:59:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:08:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Which way is faster? Message-ID: Yes, you can copy the fids directly with two drives in the same player. Yes, that will be faster than FTP. Instructions on exactly how to do this are in the disk upgrade guide. From bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 16:01:00 2004 From: bodybag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (bodybag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:09:00 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Which way is faster? Message-ID: Thanks Tony for the quick response! From Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 16:24:00 2004 From: Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Scorp1us@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:09:04 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Low volume output Message-ID: I've had my empeg since the close out, and it took me a while to realize this, I thought it was an ecoding thing, but now I don't think so. I have a aftermarket indash and the empeg. The empeg plugs into the aux of my headunit (through an adapter cable) The headunit does nothing much except the switching and radio and volume control. From there, the audio goes to a door speaker amp, and my sub amps. When I'm listening to the radio, all is well. When I switch to the empeg, I have to bump the volume up a bit. When I switch back, I've got to lower it. I have the empeg volume locked at 0 (no overdrive) Is this a problem with my MP3s (no normalization) or my head unit, or a known problem with the empegs? Thanks From tfabris at jps.net Mon Apr 5 16:31:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:09:08 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Which pair of outputs do you have connected to the aux-in of this other stereo? Do you have the fader set correctly (centered)? And by the way, the radio will always be louder than CDs or MP3s because the radio stations put a compressor/limiter on the output before it goes on the air. A proper comparison would be to play a CD in your stereo and see how that compares to the volume of the empeg. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 17:57:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:09:14 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: In reply to:> the radio will always be louder than CDs or MP3s because the radio stations put a compressor/limiter I wouldn't say always Tony. Have you had a look (and listen) at some of the modern CDs out there? They have almost no dynamic range at all because of the hard limiting used. A lot of it is probably more extreme than even what broadcasters use to prevent overmodulation. Stu From ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 5 22:40:00 2004 From: ashmoore at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ashmoore@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 12:09:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Playlist not updating Message-ID: OK it does look like I have done somehting stupid, no big surprise there....... The files are only in the soup views and not in any playlists. Just got to figure out how to get them into my playlists now. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 7 00:03:00 2004 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 23:00:12 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Hmm. We're beginning to see a proliferation of head units with 8V line outs. I wonder if their line ins are also 8V. Since the empeg is 4V line out I'd expect it to be quieter if this were the case. From pfalstad at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 7 01:33:00 2004 From: pfalstad at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pfalstad@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 6 23:00:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Low volume aux Message-ID: Hello, I have a mk2 empeg with 2.00 software. My factory radio is plugged into the empeg as an aux input. Listening to mp3's works fine, but I am having trouble listening to the radio. I have empeg set up with the source set to auxiliary, and when I turn the volume on both the empeg and the radio up to the maximum, I can just barely hear the radio. The two little bars at the right end of the display flicker weakly. It could be installed improperly. I did not do it, so I don't know the details of how it was done, and I am hopeless with this sort of thing (not even sure how I would remove the radio to look at it). I assume that it worked at one time, but that was four years ago and I don't remember. (That was with pre-2.0 software, of course.) I have been using mp3 mode this whole time. The only reason I want to use the radio now is that I'm selling the car. Any ideas? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 7 07:48:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 7 23:00:13 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume aux Message-ID: Greetings! Unfortunately, it involves checking the connection. Since you are getting some signal at maximum volumes, there is some kind of connection. But I expect that either: a) the aux-in wires are loose or barely making contact b) your factory radio is not sending out line level signals c) your factory radio does not have proper line outs, and this was somehow rigged by your installer. You would need to physically take a look at the connections. Does your factory head unit have a CD or tape? Do they show the same volume problems? From Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 7 14:09:00 2004 From: Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Scorp1us@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 7 23:00:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Nope, Not that at all. "Loudness" just made it Muddy in the bass area. Adjusting the voume to "overdrive" levels over 3db results in clipping, and is till too low. From Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 7 14:11:00 2004 From: Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Scorp1us@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 7 23:00:25 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Mine is a 4.5v unit. Eclipse I think were the first with a 8v line, which is good b/c all the interfereence in cars. From farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 8 18:28:00 2004 From: farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (farmtech@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 8 23:00:14 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Serial notify output in car mode? Message-ID: Hello, I just can't seem to figure this out on my own but is there a way I can get the Empeg to output the track, title, volume strings over the serial port at 115,200 when in regular DC car mode? I can force the Empeg to AC home mode when in the car but if I do that it ignores my ignition switch, correct? I have built a device that watches the data coming out of the serial port and can identify whether the Empeg is in player or auxilliary modes, however I want to use this in the car but am unable to figure out how to make the serial port stay active. Thanks for any help. Nick From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 8 18:36:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 8 23:00:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Serial notify output in car mode? Message-ID: Here's part of the puzzle, and the other half of the puzzle probably involves Hijack settings, such as the "serial port behavior" setting in its menu (player uses serial port/Apps use serial port), and the suppress_notify flag in config.ini. Mess with those. From farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 8 18:53:00 2004 From: farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (farmtech@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 8 23:00:25 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Serial notify output in car mode? Message-ID: Hi Tony. I have already changed those around, I will try again this weekend but so far I have not been able to figure out the correct combination. I there a good explaination of how the Force AC/DC power mode function works in Hijack? Such as what does "no loopback" mean as well as what the different Tuner = "x" functions mean? From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 8 18:56:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 8 23:00:31 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Serial notify output in car mode? Message-ID: No Loopback only applies if you are using his specially-made dock. The tuner options work as described here. From sirmanson at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 8 19:22:00 2004 From: sirmanson at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (sirmanson@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 8 23:00:37 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Eutronix Message-ID: I just wanted to give a public thank you to the guys over at Eutronix. They fixed my rotary encoder for an extremely reasonable price and it works beautifully. They were professional throughout my entire time without my baby :-) THANKS! From Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 12:26:00 2004 From: Scorp1us at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Scorp1us@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:11 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Any otyher guesses? Is there a pot on the board or software setting that I can change? From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 12:56:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Low volume output Message-ID: Have you tried a 0 dBFS 1 kHz test tone on the Empeg to see how that compares to the radio volume? Stu From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 12:57:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Eutronix Message-ID: Thanks for taking the time to recognize our work. You're welcome! Stu From Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 13:44:00 2004 From: Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Qtqc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Slow Upload Message-ID: Im having trouble while trying to upload my songs onto the empeg. When I start uploading with either USB or serial the kbs start high then slow down to 0 once it get about 1.5mb into the song. Anyone know why? From tfabris at jps.net Fri Apr 9 14:40:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:37 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: Something wrong with your USB port most likely. Or the driver possibly. If you have the capability to do so, Ethernet is much faster than USB for the empeg. From Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 16:27:00 2004 From: Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Qtqc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: I have version 2.0 on my empeg.I had the same problem using the serial also. I may pick up a router to use Ethernet From tfabris at jps.net Fri Apr 9 16:41:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:48 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: I have version 2.0 on my empeg. Is that 2.0 final, or one of the 2.0 betas? Are you running Windows XP, are you running version 2.0 of Emplode, and did you perform the steps in the readme file to install the new USB driver? Also: is it stopping on the same file every time? Perhaps something is wrong with the song file. From sirmanson at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 17:40:00 2004 From: sirmanson at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (sirmanson@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Eutronix Message-ID: Hopefully I won't have to do it again anytime soon ;-) From Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 9 22:41:00 2004 From: Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Qtqc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 9 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: The weird thing is it does it with serial and USB and it seems to have happened almost overnight. I uploaded 20 gigs about 2 weeks ago and had the normal USB speed but now its almost died. I have tried different files so its not the mp3 itself From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 10 08:49:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 10 23:00:23 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: Have you tried doing a disk check on the player? How much space do you have left? From faceless041974 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 11 21:52:00 2004 From: faceless041974 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (faceless041974@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 11 23:00:14 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Synchronising Message-ID: I just got my Empeg back from adding a new hard drive. Everything has been fine but today I tried adding an album and the player seems to be stuck in synch mode. It says that its checking disc integrity but its not proceeding at all. Any ideas on how to resolve this? From Drakino at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 11 21:55:00 2004 From: Drakino at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Drakino@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 11 23:00:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Synchronising Message-ID: The checking disk stage can take a long while on a larger capacity empeg, with little to no updates. Feel free to check this FAQ for more information, and on a way to stop the disk check from occuring unless it is absolutely necessary. From rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 12 14:15:00 2004 From: rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rbrowning@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:00:41 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: Greetings. I've got one of them Mk2 jobbies; had it for a couple of years now. For the last several months I've noticed what I perceived was corruption in my MP3s. Symptoms were squeaks, whistles, pops, etc. These symptoms always appear after the player has been turned on for a little while. From 'cold', there are no symptoms. This clearly rules out problems with the MP3s themselves or with their transfer onto the unit. I'm wondering whether it could be a RAM problem or HD problem. Syncing occasionally seems to take forever and sometimes the player hangs during transfer. Is there any way to determine whether it is RAM, HD or something more nefarious that's causing this problem? Thanks R From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 12 14:17:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:00:47 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: It's most likely HD related. Check out this FAQ for some troubleshooting techniques. From tfabris at jps.net Mon Apr 12 14:37:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:00:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: Yeah, Bitt's right. It's most likely disk trouble. For future reference, there is a very specific FAQ entry about pops and screeches in the MP3s. Note that since the problem seems to be temperature related, the section of the disk trouble FAQ that you'll want to check first is the bit about the faulty solder joints on the IDE header. From rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 12 18:49:00 2004 From: rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rbrowning@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:00:58 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: Gents Thanks for your speedy response. I have just ordered a new (larger) hard drive; the internals of the player seem to be okay, as do the connectors. Thanks for the speedy response. R From tfabris at jps.net Mon Apr 12 18:52:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:01:02 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: Cool. Make sure to go through the drive upgrade guide carefully, step by step, when you do the installation. From rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 12 18:56:00 2004 From: rbrowning at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rbrowning@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:01:07 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: Will do. :-) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 12 22:42:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 12 23:01:13 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Whistle squeak pop CRASH! Message-ID: I think it highly unlikely that the drive is at fault -- if it still plays at all, then the drive is functioning and the fault is more likely the IDE header, or maybe the cable crimps. Cheers From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 13 17:34:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:00:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: Rtundo, Do you have two hard drives? If so, you need to get the latest version from http://strobos.cee.vt.edu/VNC. The server side, which is the culprit, is also attached here just in case. When I did this I only had one-hardrive Empegs and noticed what you are talking about when I upgraded to two drives. It has been fixed since. FYI, I have just completed a different application that is not based on VNC (where the state remains in the server). That is much better in all aspects. Check it out at http://strobos.cee.vt.edu/EMSC. I will make an announcement of availability shortly. Please do let me know if the VNC problem is solved with the attached executable. But EMS Something else I forgot to add, is that you should have the latest Hijack installed (version 380). There is a range of Hijack versions prior to 380 that broke parts of the VNC server. From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 13 17:49:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: I just checked my server and effectively the version that was there just until now, is the one that will only work with Empegs that have one hard drive. Please use the one I attached to the earlier reply, or re-download. From rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 13 18:15:00 2004 From: rtundo at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rtundo@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:01:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Windows VNC viewer question Message-ID: Thnaks for the response Jules. I'll try what you said. I'm just about done mounting everything in the car. Let you know how things go. :-) By the way yes I do have two drives. From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 13 22:21:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:01:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Noob Question Message-ID: Well I recieved a model RD100-60 Empeg from my brother who passed away but im not sure if I have all neccessary to work it. I have the Box, the Power Supply and it appears to already have its harness installed. But I dont have the sled or CD the manuel calls for... I tried installing some Emplode software off the web to load up the database on my computer but it wont recognize it and im sure im missing something.. I run basic WinXP Pro, not familiar with Linux etc from all the coding I see being passed around, hope to take classes soon :-) I Loaded it up with the power supply and i see that my brother already loaded a ton of music on it. It definately has been used a bit, just not sure how I can edit it and what else do I need to install in my car... Thanks for your help and info. From farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 00:47:00 2004 From: farmtech at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (farmtech@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:01:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Serial notify output in car mode? Message-ID: I was able to get the serial messages back by changing the Serial Port Assignment to "Apps use serial port". Everything is now working perfect. I will be posting information on my remote control project just as soon as I have things up and running. This will most likely be a few months away but I at least have a major piece of the puzzle in place. Thanks much, Nick From mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 01:31:00 2004 From: mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mtempsch@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 13 23:01:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: Sorry to hear about your brother... If it has a harness attached, the empeg is probably inserted into the sled already... Unless you're already reading it, your first action should be to check out the very extensive FAQ. For instance, here's a list of what came in the box. /Michael From PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 10:09:00 2004 From: PhilipOHare at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (PhilipOHare@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:00:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: To get it working in the car you will need a sled - this must be installed in your brothers car I'd have thought - unless its already in the sled - try pulling the unit out of the sled with the handle. If not he could only have used it in the house. They'll also be a credit card remote somewhere - you'll need this for some functions, but not necessary for simple stuff. You don't need to know Linux either :-) - unless you want to that is! From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 11:31:00 2004 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: I tried installing some Emplode software off the web to load up the database on my computer but it wont recognize it and im sure im missing something.Current versions of Emplode only work with v2.00 car-player firmware (or the beta versions of v2). Unless your brother ever took the time to upgrade his firmware, the player is probably still running the older v1.03 or earlier. Your first step would then be to download and apply the v2.00 firmware upgrade. Peter From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 14 13:43:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:00:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: I tried installing some Emplode software off the web to load up the database on my computer but it wont recognize it and im sure im missing something.. _I run basic WinXP Pro_ Are you using a USB connection to hook it up to the computer? If so, please read this. For detailed instructions on how to upgrade emplode and the player, follow the "Upgrade" sub-link within that FAQ entry above. it appears to already have its harness installed. Can you describe this harness? As others have said, if there is really a wiring harness, then it's probably already in the sled and you merely need to pull the handle and it will slide right out of the harness. From scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 18:48:00 2004 From: scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ScoCo) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:00:57 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Fried empeg? Message-ID: So I hooked up my wife's empeg to upload some new tunes to it failing to realize that instead of the power supply for the empeg, I used the power supply for my ThinkPad. It was only on for a couple of seconds before I noticed the problem. Once I hooked up the correct power supply, the unit powered up but now the screen blinks and "clicks" Also, the hard drives never spin up. I hooked up a serial connection and in the terminal I don't see anything unusual other that it can't find a hard drive. Does anyone have any ideas before I start searching ebay for another empeg? From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 14 19:11:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: - What are the specifications printed on that ThinkPad power supply? - Did you smell anything? (Seriously.) - The hard drive problem may have been a coincidence of timing, please check the FAQ on all the possible causes of drive trouble and rule those out. - The screen doesn't click as far as I know. I'm guessing you're hearing a hard drive click. It's highly likely that the empeg is repairable, don't panic yet. Others have done particularly bad things like hook it up to AC current, and they had to do some chip replacements on the motherboard, but it's fixable if we can trace the fault. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 19:16:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: If all else fails, you can mail it to me and I'll look at it when time permits (usually immediately). At the moment, I'm the doctor of last resort for these units. Cheers From scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 19:20:00 2004 From: scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ScoCo) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:15 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: What are the specifications printed on that ThinkPad power supply? 16V DC 4.5A Polarity is the same as the empeg supply Did you smell anything? (Seriously.) As soon as it happened I checked for smells, nothing strong. There is a faint burnt component smell near the display, but it's so faint I think (hope) that it isn't anything. I took the player apart and didn't see anything that looked burnt either ... Okay, I just unhooked both hard drives and the unit powers up fine. It was one of the hard drive. If I just hook up one, the unit functions properly. I can handle a bad hard drive. From scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 19:30:00 2004 From: scoco at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ScoCo) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: Okay, it seems that the unit will power up when either hard drive is in, but not both. I grabbed another drive and tried it with both of the original drives and had the same results. Two drives doesn't work, but one drive does. Think I have a power supply problem? From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 14 19:33:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:29 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: Yeah, those specs for the ThinkPad power supply might actually be just fine. I've heard of people successfully using ThinkPad power supplies to run their empegs, although I don't know if they were that exact model or not. And a faint warm-electronics smell coming from the display is normal. The display is actually heated by the cathode filament wires. I don't know if the hard disk failed because of the power supply or not. But definitely go through this entire FAQ entry to find out if the problem is a disk or if it's just one of the other usual things (cable crimp or solder joints on the IDE header). From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 20:07:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: Ok i am starting to learn more about it the more I read and this is what i got.. I also have the remote and the manual and thats helping alot too.. The firmware may be outdated and I will try to install the upgrade when i find a serial cable around, hehe. All I am apartly missing to get it to function is the sled with corresponding connectors. the 'Harness' I was thinking was the wiring from inside the box to the female port to plug into the sled. I am looking to buy a sled if anyone willing to part or knows someone! Also I found the Empeg when i connected it through USB after updating drivers, but Emplode would only say "The Operation Completed Sucessfully" but wouldnt bring up the playlist it has on the empeg for editing or anything, there isnt a write-protector on these babies is there? :-) Thanks for your help! From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 14 20:27:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: the 'Harness' I was thinking was the wiring from inside the box to the female port to plug into the sled Ah. That's the ISO adapter, yeah. Doesn't do you any good at this point. The sled is probably still installed in your late brother's car. Any idea where it is? If the car was sold, its buyers would have no use for the sled and it would have no value to them. However, to the empeg owner, the sled is priceless as they are very difficult to replace. I'd see if I could pursue tracking it down if I were you. I will try to install the upgrade when i find a serial cable around, hehe. Remember that it has to be a null-modem cable. The pins on the cable that are used are pins 2, 3, and 5. (RX, TX, and Ground.) Pins 2 and 3 are "crossed" on a null-modem cable, they are straight-through on a regular cable. From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 14 20:30:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:47 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: No, there's not a write-protector on them. And you can tell the firmware version by going to the "About" menu on the player itself. From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 14 20:34:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Noob Question Message-ID: Nice! Firmware is Verison 1.03, needs updating, now just gotta find me a Null Cable modem and find the right upgrade file and im in... Btw my brother was planning on buying a convertible to put his empeg in, so he never installed it in his own vehichle.. my father on the other hand probably didnt grab the box with it when he picked up his belongings, i wasnt with him.... I will call up a roommate he had possible has it still.. thanks for info again! You guys rock. From juenk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 15 02:06:00 2004 From: juenk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (juenk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:01:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: Yeah, those specs for the ThinkPad power supply might actually be just fine. I've heard of people successfully using ThinkPad power supplies to run their empegs, although I don't know if they were that exact model or not. Tha's actually what I'm doing quite frequently (both with the power supply of my old 30X (?) and current T40P. On the T40P powersupply is printed: Output 16V DC, 4.5A Jelle From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 15 02:31:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:02:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Bad pump response Message-ID: Got this error trying to update my firmware, any ideas? From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 15 02:52:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 14 23:02:05 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Bad pump response Message-ID: Let's introduce you to your new best friend, the FAQ search. :-D Your question is answered in the second search hit here. Enjoy! From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 15 03:12:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:00:40 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Bad pump response Message-ID: im post happy, i just searched forum for others asking about same problem, lol.. thanks Tony :-) From Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 15 08:25:00 2004 From: Qtqc at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Qtqc@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:00:49 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: I updated the driver, and everything works great. Thanks for the help guys. Just curious, how much fater is ethernet compared to USB? From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 15 13:36:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:00:59 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Slow Upload Message-ID: Just curious, how much fater is ethernet compared to USB? This much. From burnside at alaska.net Thu Apr 15 14:50:00 2004 From: burnside at alaska.net (Douglas Burnside) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:01:08 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Fried empeg? Message-ID: > Okay, it seems that the unit will power up when either hard drive is in, but not both. Will the hard drive that works run properly when hooked up to the end connector and also the middle connector of the IDE cable? Or does the failure always occur on the same connector? I think you know where I'm going with this... tanstaafl. From Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 15 20:02:00 2004 From: Gylend at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gylend@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:01:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Bad pump response Message-ID: Oki well I fixed the problem, just pushed in my IDE cables more and my null cable and seemed to go through after a couple more tries... now Im just looking for a sled and im ready to rock n roll! From JeffreyB at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 16 00:24:00 2004 From: JeffreyB at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (JeffreyB@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 15 23:01:25 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Surface Mount IDE Header Message-ID: I just purchased a broken Empeg where someone tried to resolder the IDE connector and did a real hack job. Some of the pads are gone and the surface mount 44 pin header is destroyed. Does anyone have a source of these headers? A part number? Want to part with one cheap? Also, has anyone figured out where on the board the various 44 pins go? I read that Mark had a similar repair recently where he had to "ohm out" the traces. Is this documented somewhere? I will probably have to use my good Empeg just to follow the traces from the 44 pin header to their termination points, but it would be nice to have this already ( no need risking my working unt!). Thanks, Jeff From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 16 11:44:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 16 23:00:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Surface Mount IDE Header Message-ID: I just traced the signals as required, but almost all of them originate from a pair of '245 line transceiver chips between the IDE header and the CPU area. If you trace from those chips, you should be able to find all of the signals rapidly. Cheers From JeffreyB at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 16 11:55:00 2004 From: JeffreyB at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (JeffreyB@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 16 23:00:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Surface Mount IDE Header Message-ID: Thanks Mark! Any idea where I can get a new surface mount 44 pin header? JeffreyB From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 16 12:27:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 16 23:00:41 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Surface Mount IDE Header Message-ID: www.digikey.com This part looks like the right one, though I have not needed to purchase one of them yet: _H1792-ND_ Cheers From Gleep at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 10:19:00 2004 From: Gleep at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gleep@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:00:30 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Possible? Message-ID: I would like to add the Eutronix coaxial digital ouput, but I understand it requires making an extra hole in the sled, and as I have 3 cars with 3 sleds already mounted I would prefer not to have to remove the existing sleds. Furthermore, the place inside my house where I would like to use the digital out, I use a Mark Lord Dock. I was wondering if it would be possible to modify the Empeg and the ML Docking station so that the digital output would only be available when the Empeg was docked? From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 10:50:00 2004 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: There are some unused wires in the docking connector.. maybe you could route the signal through the Mic input? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 12:43:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: Question: do you intend to connect the coax digital out in the car? I have all three outputs, and I did not require any sled modification. Granted, I do not use digital out in the car. The connectors mount on the empeg itself, and that is what you need to put the hole in. From Gleep at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 17:59:00 2004 From: Gleep at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Gleep@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:01:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: I have all three outputs, and I did not require any sled modification I stand corrected. I would still like to be able to have the coax digital output connect to the dock and just have the Empeg slide right in. I don't need to use the digital ouputs in the car. I don't think I could modify the dock myself. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 18:41:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:01:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: You best option is to modify the connections in the docking connector, adding the digital out that way. You might want to check with Stu and Mark, see if either of them have already modified a dock in this manner. I think they did, but I am not certain. From thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 23:09:00 2004 From: thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thrasher@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:01:13 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] emplode prob. Message-ID: My pc can not find my empeg.when I olpen emplode the little flashlight is not coming up trying to find it .I have uninstaled and instaled agian with no luck.Any ideas,Thanks From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 17 23:13:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 17 23:01:18 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: Yes, we've modified a Mark Lord dock for digital out. It worked great! Stu From Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 06:02:00 2004 From: Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Cristian@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:00:21 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: I did that to one of Mark's Docks too. See here and here. It was easy enough to do, you just need a couple of dock connectors, which Mark kindly supplied when I ordered the Dock (No. 14 :-) ). Cheers Cris. From mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 09:28:00 2004 From: mtempsch at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mtempsch@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:00:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: emplode prob. Message-ID: Has it worked previously? If so, have you made any changes in the network - hardware or settings wise? What's between the PC and empeg? For instance, some switches have been seen to be troublesome... Try to eliminate the network from the equation - try a direct crossover cable between PC and empeg... What are the IP-numbers of the PC and empeg - make sure both in the same subnet... /Michael From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 09:39:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: I was doing a drive upgrade and copping files from one drive to another as per the wonderful Drive Upgrade Guide...all went well until I had to type in the commands to do the copy....nothing happened!!! Rebuilt the drive again...entered the commands for the copy...nothing happened!!! then..i realized that there are spaces in the command!!! i remember from my old programming days (circa 1975) that when a space or blank is to be used the letter 'b' was used with a slash through it!! perhaps a symbol could be used to signify when a space/blank is intended? just a suggestion.. btw..the copy is currently underway and all seems to be working fine...when all is done will have 50GB up from original 10GB of 3 years ago! Also...installed Clarion Pro Audio w. SIRIUS radio in the car and ran the RIO into its AUX input...so far the gremlins of noise are still sleeping and do not have any whine that is notable...will give it my customary 2-week trial period, after which hopefully all will be fine! Anyways...maybe the FAQ master can figure a way to work in my suggestion... Thanks and happy cruising...! From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 09:55:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: emplode prob. Message-ID: Greetings! Is this the new one you just got as the backup? Are you connecting via USB or ethernet? I assume ethernet at the moment. Check to see (via serial port connect) if the ethernet port is not configured or ethernet is disabled. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 11:23:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:04 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Possible? Message-ID: This is one I've always been too lazy to figure out, but now I may need to know. Can someone enumerate all of the serial ports available on the empeg and which ones are duplicates, please? I know about the one on the back of the unit, obviously, I know about the one hanging off the back of the sled. These two are the same thing, are they not? And then isn't there one on the tuner somehow? Is this the same as the port used to deal with the Sony stalk control? I'm thinking about writing something to attach my empeg to my car's CANbus and want to figure out the best way to get it interfaced. From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:39:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:21 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: Back of empeg and docking sled are the same port. The IrDA port is another serial port and finally one is used to control the tuner. The Sony stalk is just a bunch of resistors connected to switches and it's attached to the PIC inside the tuner module. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:41:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:26 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: So there could conceivably be another serial port available if I wasn't using the tuner? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:47:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: Yeah. There are two free serial ports in a tunerless Empeg. The IrDA one isn't used unless you add software like Palantir. /dev/ttyS0 = Tuner /dev/ttyS1 = Sled/Back port /dev/ttyS2 = IrDA From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:49:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:37 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: The tuner one is the one most easily interfaced to. The IrDA one will require you opening up the empeg and unsoldering the IrDA transceiver chip and somehow routing the wires out. The tuner interface is TTL so be careful as it's connected to the StrongARM. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:53:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: Hijack has several hooks into the kernel drivers for the Tuner port, so be wary of pitfalls when poking around there.. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 13:54:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:49 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: fully electronic cut-and-paste works wonders with stuff like this.. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 14:00:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:01:54 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: empeg serial ports Message-ID: Well, unfortunately (?), I have a tuner, so I guess I'll try to work with the console. Of course, I'll have to figure out how to avoid sending garbage on the CANbus, which may be less than easy. Maybe I'll have to try to get something going with the IRDA port. From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 18 14:17:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:00 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: perhaps a symbol could be used to signify when a space/blank is intended? just a suggestion.. If I did that, then people wouldn't be able to use a copy/paste to execute the commands. From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 18 14:21:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:08 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: emplode prob. Message-ID: If it's USB, and if you're running Windows XP, click here. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 15:39:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: You could make the space a different color, conceivably. I don't know that it's worth it, though. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 16:53:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:23 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: duh (as he banks his head against the desk) thanks! From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 16:53:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:28 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: I pretty much know this isnt a empeg issue but thought Id ask and see if someone could help me figure out whats wrong. At home I can click to stream an entire playlist and it lists every song in WMP and pulls the track titles and everything. Works great there, However at work I do the same thing and I only get a single track listed called playlist# and no track titles nothing just the empeg ip address.. Anyone know what settings may be wrong in WMP/How I can correct this at work? Thanks! From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 17:37:00 2004 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:34 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: Have you tried Winamp to see if it's a software issue or something else? From thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 19:31:00 2004 From: thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thrasher@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: emplode prob. Message-ID: Hi,went golfing early this morning just now got home.I am going through a divorce right now,she got the computer with all my music on it. so this is a new computer with windows xp.I downloaded emplode on it yesterday. it can not find either of my players there both running 2.0 except for the new one I just go.t it still has 1.3 on it. I am using the usb. From thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 20:02:00 2004 From: thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thrasher@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:40 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: emplode prob. Message-ID: I am such a moron when it comes to computers,I still can not get emplode to find my empegs.I read the notes about xp and drivers but I do not understand it.what to do,what to do.Does any one live near the valley in California, that can come over and get this working and install EAC andLlame on my pc.I would gladly pay. From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 20:06:00 2004 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: I havn't looked at it recently, but do you use a font that has standard letter "widths"? I forget the technical term for this.. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 20:26:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:47 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: ...non-proportional fonts... From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 18 21:21:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:49 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: No I dont have winamp at work. The empeg works fine at home, but soon as i walk into work, flip to work mode and stream i get the above. I could try and attempt a winamp install tomorrow. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 00:13:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 18 23:02:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: So.. what's different in config.ini for _;@WORK_ mode.. ? Post the file for us. Cheers From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 06:23:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:00:18 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: The things for @Work in my config.ini are: [Network] ;@Work DHCP=1 [hijack] ;@Work kftpd_control_port=0 ;@Work khttpd_port=666 ;@Work khttpd_basic=user1:pass1 ;@Work khttpd_full=user2:pass2 After typing this in I went to double check if it was work mode cause I can use work mode at home cause my router has dhcp abilities. It wasnt that. it was fine, I was having a major blonde moment, I use winamp at home not WMP (Doh!) WMP doesnt work at home either, Ill install winamp at work and it will probobly be fine. :-) From tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 08:07:00 2004 From: tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tms13@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:00:30 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Suggestion for Hyperterminal Message-ID: In reply to:... a font that has standard letter "widths"? I forget the technical term for this..Monospaced (or character-cell) fonts (Actually, character-cell fonts have stricter requirements, but they are monospaced, and I want to keep this simple!) From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 10:25:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:00:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: Okay, good. Also ensure you have the latest Hijack (v383), since there have been a couple of bug fixes to the original HTTP authentication stuff. Cheers From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 15:34:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:00:48 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: Yeah I have the 838. Your just too fast with it.. :-) When I read your 831 thread you already had 838 out. :-) Thanks for the help. From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 19 16:37:00 2004 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 19 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: 38* From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 20 07:37:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:00:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: Opps I ment 833 From customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 20 18:02:00 2004 From: customsex at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (customsex@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:00:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: ok, now im just confused From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 20 20:55:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:00:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Empeg streaming mp3s and WMP Message-ID: Never mind ignore me LOL I cant get the frigging version number right to save my self.. LOL I must be having a dislexic week or something... Im not even gonna try again From michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 21 00:40:00 2004 From: michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (michael_corleone@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 20 23:00:50 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: Hi, The Problem: In Jemplode, I right click on any playlist folder, go to download then save to a folder and it starts to download to the PC. But... random songs downloaded are 0k in size, this doesn't make sense cause i can play the songs on the player. I have the new hijack and the new Jemplode version Oh also I tried this in Emplode and I can download everything fine! Can anyone let me know what to do cause the FAQ doesn't seem to have this, And I like Jemplode a bit better thanks all From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 21 12:19:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:00:26 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: This is very odd. A couple of questions... 1. What is the exact version number of Jemplode you're running? 2. What is the version number of the player firmware you're running? 3. Have you checked the box in Jemplode that says "Use Hijack When Possible"? 4. Have you performed the "FIDsift" operation on your player? (If you don't know what this is, then that's OK because you haven't.) 5. Does your player have two disk drives in it? 6. Are the problem files truly random, or do they share a common characteristic? For example, a non-ASCII character in the target file name, a non-standard file type such as WMA or OGG, an odd bitrate, unusually long comment fields in the tags, they all came from the same source, anything like that? 7. What version of the Sun Java Runtime Engine is installed on your PC? From michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 21 20:47:00 2004 From: michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (michael_corleone@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:00:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: hmmmm, to answer your questions 1) Jemplode Version 45 2) Version 2.00 3) Yep Option is checked off 4) Nope no idea what "FIDSift" is 5) 2 HDD's in the empeg 6) See below 7) Just downloaded the newest Version from Java.com 6) After Downloading And the Download Results come back: example: Failed/Skipped Filename 2Pac-Better Dayz-When We Ride On Our Enemies.mp3 Reason h**p://192.168.1.107/drive0/fids/8380 ****This Fid is actually on*** h**p://192.168.1.107/drive1/fids/8380 So question is how can I get Jemplode to look on that drive1 HDD to find the FID? Emplode does it perfectly. Thanks From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 21 21:03:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:00:48 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: That's your problem. It's not the latest Jemplode, which is up to 54 or higher now, and corrects the two-drive bug (I think). Please get the latest JAR file from: http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg/ Mike.... Please do something about this happening to other poor folk. All we need is the latest JAR at the jempeg.org site, without the installer or anything... From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 21 21:26:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:01:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: Or maybe even just a link. From michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 21 23:11:00 2004 From: michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (michael_corleone@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:01:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: Yep! Work Perfectly NOW! The Jar did it Thanks Tony. From michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 21 23:15:00 2004 From: michael_corleone at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (michael_corleone@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 21 23:01:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: WOW and a lot better also From BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 22 14:32:00 2004 From: BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BAKup@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:00:28 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Strangeness... Message-ID: Ok, This is with 3b7. This is kind of hard to properly explain, but here goes, and don't get too confused. I get in my car, start a new playlist up, listen to it for a bit, turn off the car, pull the player out. When I get back in, and start up the player, I get the playlist that was previously running before I started that new playlist, but the position in the playlist is the spot in the new playlist. One thing that does seem to help keep it from forgeting is if I either manually put it into sleep mode for about 30 seconds, or turn the car off and let it go into sleep for a bit. From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 22 15:06:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:00:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Strangeness... Message-ID: The current playlist data is written to the scratch partition when you select it. The position within the playlist is written to flash memory when you power off. Clearly, the latter is happening but not the former. Does it seem to happen mostly when you select a new playlist very shortly before pulling the player? For instance, you select a new playlist and listen for only a few seconds before yanking the player. I think that the scratch partition stuff may perhaps be deferred-write in 3a7. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 22 15:33:00 2004 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:00:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Strangeness... Message-ID: This happens to me also. Not everytime, but enough to make it annoying. Why would the write be deferred? The disks are spun up anyway to read the new tracks. I don't think that the time before yanking is relevant - I've had this happen 20 minutes or so after selecting a new playlist. I suspect that the player attempts to write the information, sometimes fails for some unknown reason and then forgets to retry. Whether this write failure is due to a new bug in an intentional change in the code or whether it's an existing race hazard that was previously unencountered due to other reasons is unknown. From BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 22 16:13:00 2004 From: BAKup at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BAKup@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:00:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Strangeness... Message-ID: Nope, it'll happen when I've been in the car for 45 minutes after starting the playlist, and it be playing the whole time...Also the songs that were played didn't get their playcount advanced. From Shonky at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 22 22:00:00 2004 From: Shonky at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Shonky@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:00:59 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Strangeness... Message-ID: For record I am experiencing the same issues. Quite annoying when you're half way through a new playlist and restart the car only to find it's forgotten it. (Not quite as annoying as the random marking of tracks though) Seems to be a 3a7 thing - it never happened before. From genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 22 23:31:00 2004 From: genixia at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (genixia@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 22 23:01:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Strangeness... Message-ID: (Not quite as annoying as the random marking of tracks though) Hmm. I wonder if the 2 bugs are related... From mschrag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 23 08:43:00 2004 From: mschrag at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mschrag@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 23 23:00:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: http://www.jempeg.org It's better than the old one at least :-) From tfabris at jps.net Fri Apr 23 13:13:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri Apr 23 23:00:54 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: JEmplode Problems Downloading Files To PC Message-ID: You are da man. That's absolutely perfect. :-) From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 15:39:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:00:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Odd AC -< DC volume prob Message-ID: I dont know the exact pattern for this, but it seems when ever I have had the Empeg running on AC and then go get in the car and boot up almost every time its volume is all the way down. then once i set it its fine in DC every time it boots up, take it in the house it boots up fine, vol where its suppose to be, then go back to the car and then its all the way down again. Im running v2 final of the software, and the newest hijack. Anyone else expierence this? Thanks From tfabris at jps.net Sat Apr 24 16:04:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:00:29 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Odd AC -< DC volume prob Message-ID: It's supposed to remember the DC volume level at which the player was last shut off (either yanked out of the dash, or ignition shut off and the timeout expired). It's supposed to be completely unrelated to anything you've done when the player is on AC. 1. Remember that it saves the AC and the DC volume settings separately. Are you expecting the DC volume level to be the same as the AC volume level? It's not. 2. Are you sure you're not just turning the volume down before you take it out of the car? 3. Is the volume the only thing that's reset? If you are also losing other settings, such as the balance, fader, its song position within the current playlist, and anything else that's stored in flash memory, then you're getting something very strange going on where it's losing all flash settings. That's not good. 4. Have a peek at this. 5. The latest version of Hijack lets you set the power-on volume. It's a feature that Mark implemented at my request, but it should be deactivated by default. Have you accidentally used that feature to force it to boot at zero volume? I think the options are "Use Current Volume" and "Use Previous Volume". Make sure to set it to "previous" (or whatever the option is) in order for it to work normally. From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 18:45:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:00:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Hi All, I have a MK2 and also an Apple powerbook. I want to be able to transfer my mp3s from the powerbook to the MK2. The kit that I have came with a serial cable, but that will only work with desktop machines, not my laptop. Is there any way to hook up the MK2 to my laptop? USB? some kind of adapter? and will it work the Jemplode (which version)? Thanks for any information. From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 19:04:00 2004 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:00:48 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Don't crosspost. Just don't. From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 19:12:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:00:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: uh, ok. sorry, didn't realize that would offend anyone. just wanted to make sure my post was in the right place. From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 19:14:00 2004 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:04 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Well, the obvious way to do that was by reading and finding the right place, and then posting. As to your question, use ethernet, or get a USB-serial dongle. deluo.com has one for ~$10, you need a pl2303 driver to use with it, I don't remember where I got the driver but I have it somewhere. From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 19:45:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:11 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: ok, i'll try ethernet since my apple has that available. a pl2303 driver? what the heck is that? is that something i need to use jemplode on my apple? From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 19:48:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:19 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: pl2303 = Prolific 2303 which is a common USB -< serial chipset From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 20:50:00 2004 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: It is if you want to use serial with a pl2303-based serial to usb adapter. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 23:23:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:34 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Is there any reason i couldn't put a MkIIa motherboard into a MkII case, keeping the original MkII screen and harnesses? Since i've got 70GB on my MKII, the drives are ALWAYS spun up and it's overheating regularly on trips of half an hour or more. It needs more RAM. And until the extra RAM hack is worked out, i need a quick fix. Pretty sure i know the answer to this, but just wanna make sure before i do it. From tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sat Apr 24 23:44:00 2004 From: tman at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tman@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Okay. Obvious question here but couldn't you just move the drives over instead? :-) From BasmantarD at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 00:18:00 2004 From: BasmantarD at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BasmantarD@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:50 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: OK, i have searched alot for this question and cant find a solution. My master drive boots up and then starts knocking or clicking, I assume this is from when i dropped it a while ago. I bought an IBM Hitachi Travelstar 80GN 60GB ATA-6 2.5in 4200RPM Mobile Hard Drive (model IC25N060ATMR04 part# 08K0634) from ZipZoomFly.com Hyperterminal can connect via my serial cable. I run the diskbuilder for the markII found on the empeg.com site. I follow the instructions to unplug power, run the disk builder upgrade and then apply power when it asks me to. I can hear the drive spin up but nothing hapens after that, i get the Disk Drive Not Found Contact Support message and the disk builder program continues to ask me to apply power and waits, then eventually times out and i get the failed at 0x00 part. Any suggestions? From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 25 02:31:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sat Apr 24 23:01:58 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Okay. Obvious question here but couldn't you just move the drives over instead? I believe he also wants the display board assembly from the 2A because it's got the newer type of rotary encoder. What you want to do, Loren, is do-able I think. The display boards are meant to be interchangeable. My only problem is... I don't think the extra RAM is going to make a difference in the temperature. There's not going to be a huge difference in spin-up times. It will only be slight, not enough to make a thermal difference. I think it might be time for the big step. Go see if WeirdStuff still has that big styrofoam crate full of tiny fans. From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 25 03:07:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:00:50 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: ok, i'll try ethernet since my apple has that available. Good, it's the fastest way to get songs into the car player. And by the way, to reply to something that was said in the crossposted version of this thread: Paul is right, you do need player firmware version 2.0 final in order for Jemplode to work properly. So check that (from the "About" menu on the player) first. If it doesn't have it, you'll need to temporarily borrow a friend with a PC in order to apply that upgrade. You also might want to take that opportunity to install the latest Hijack while you're getting your hands dirty with the PC. You know, get it all over with once, so you only have to do the ritual hand-washing thing once. :-) From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 25 03:21:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:02 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: Okay, it's important to separate the sub-problems you're dealing with here. For example, it's important to be clear that the "no hard disk found contact support" message may or may not have anything to do with the builder upgrade not working. "no hard disk found" will appear on the player's screen when: 1. The disk drive is genuinely not found by the kernel software (for any of the hardware-related reasons listed in the FAQ). This includes simply plugging the cable in wrong, so definitely check that. 2. The disk drive is working just fine but it's hasn't been properly partitioned by the builder software and/or hasn't had the player software installed on it yet. Your builder image doesn't seem to be working for you, it never even gets as far as flashing the kernel, it's not even getting to the hard disk yet. So it never gets to the point of trying to pump the partitions. So I'm guessing that the reason "no hard disk found" is appearing is because of #2 above, and there's every reason to believe the disk is fine. Let's rewind a bit. You said hyperterminal worked, right? This is important, if hyperterminal doesn't work then you've got serial port problems and that's the reason none of this is working. So. Go back to hyperterminal and make sure it works. If hyperterminal works, watch the boot log and see if the disk drive is detected at boot time. See if you get an error about the CS4132A chip. See if it detects the drive during the "probing primary interface" stage. That sort of thing. The stuff in the FAQ I linked above. If the drive looks good and Hyperterminal works, then we're on to looking for a reason that the builder image refuses to apply. Are you using a docking sled at all? Click here if so. Beyond that, go through all the steps here and see if you can find any reason that the upgrader might not work. From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 25 03:27:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:12 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: Oh, and if you ever do get the builder image to work, there's a chance you might have to run it twice. Paul Grzelak reported that there's a problem with the largest drives. Depends on a few factors if I recall correctly. From Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 08:01:00 2004 From: Archeon at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Archeon@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: Yup, there is indeed a bug, but it's not related to drive size. Apparantly it can happen to any drive, the size doesn't matter. Last week I tried it with a 30gig drive (hardly a big drive nowadays), and ran into the same problem. The only thing I can think of is that the bug might not happen with a completely new drive, so one that doesn't have any partitions on it. But I am not entirely sure, I haven't tried this enough to be able to say this with any degree of certitude. But you're right : the problem is indeed easily enough fixed by letting the builder run two or three times, but it's still very annoying. Especially if you've already re-flashed your Empeg with the 2.0 kernel and then have to re-reflash it with the disk builder to actually get things done... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 10:41:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: Greetings! It is a good idea to upgrade using the builder image. As soon as the empeg reboots, pull the power. Exit the upgrader (or it already finished and exited) and run hyperterm. Plug power back into the empeg and watch the builder steps on your hyperterm session. If it reports any errors, repeat. See this thread for details. From SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 12:09:00 2004 From: SonicSnoop at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SonicSnoop@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Odd AC -< DC volume prob Message-ID: No, Im not expecting the two to be the same, I do turn the volume down to about -35 but not completelty off. But on boot it is completely off, only when coming from AC power to DC. Yes the volume appears to be the only thing that resets. I havent messed with the eq yet so I dont know if that does yet or not. The song/position in the playlist stays fine. It was originally set to Previous Volume, but I just switched it to Current Volume yesterday to see if that would help with this issue. and it didnt. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 14:42:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:50 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: No. He wants to keep the old display and stuff, for whatever reason. And it's not going to affect the spinup, but, rather, keep the drive from spinning all the time by increasing the amount of cache available. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 14:51:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:01:58 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Here's why i think it will make a difference: The same drive configuration, two 40 gb drives, has been in the WRX since i installed the empeg, no change there. I did get overheating, but once i drilled vent holes into the pocket above the empeg, no more overheating. It's been fine for months that way with daily use. Then last week i uploaded another 30 gigs or so that i'd been retagging and now the drives are literally ALWAYS spun up according to the disk activity icon. So after half an hour it gets overheated. The drives being spun down at all seemed to help. And as for why i don't just use the MkIIa... the way i have my sled installed, i can't even fit a MkIIa into it. It's bolted in from the side and is one of the coated black sleds. Despite the size of the empegs supposedly being exactly the same, i can tell you from experience they definitely are not. My MkII slides in fine with plenty of room, but the MkIIa won't go pas the first sled nipple... which can't be bent out due to the mounting bracket in the WRX. Should be an easy swap so i'll give it a try before i venture into fan world. Unless i have one... *me goes digging in my junk computer box* Thanks! From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 15:06:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:07 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: To be honest, I am kind of curious why the drives are not spinning down. Do you have that disabled through hijack? Have you uploaded different filetypes (flac)? Adding more music should not change drive behavior like that. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 15:09:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Wish i knew. I haven't disabled it, and i'm still running good old VBR MP3s. I just figured the database was taking up all the RAM. I'm still running 2.0Final From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 15:14:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:24 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Hey Guys, Thanks for the info. I've hooked up the player to my G4 powerbook via the ethernet port and downloaded the latest version of Jemplode (the one with the pic of the dog in the splash screen). I checked the version of the firmware on the player in the About menu and it says "2.00" Is that correct or is there a version called "2.00 Final"?? Anyway, so far Jemplode doesn't seem to recognize it. Actually, sometimes it says "No device found" other times it says "Music Station 169.254.111.115" but when I click that and click "Ok" it doesn't pull up any playlst??? So.. do I need to update the firmware? Is there another problem? Thanks for any help. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 15:49:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Hmmm... Something sounds a bit strange. Try manually fsck-ing the drives. Also, try going into your config.ini and verify your settings. See what kind of memory reserve you have, any applications that are loaded that may be logging or keeping the drives spinning. I would almost recommend backing up your existing config.ini and putting a clean one in its place (not loading any additional software or memory tweaks) just to see if it makes a difference. Also try inserting a forced spindown time to see if it changes things. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 16:16:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Doing all of the above now... From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 16:44:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:02:53 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Definitely nothing weird in the config.ini: [hijack] khttpd_root_index=/drive0/opt/khttpd/charcoalgray99/index.html [output] notify=1 [hush] hushpercent=20 [display] play_count=1 visual_names=1 caching=1 [volumecap] enabled=0 [kenwood] disabled=0 [ramp] disabled=0 [menu] quit=0 sort_playlist=0 [tuner] region=us [controls] stalk_side=none [Options] Name=emp3g [User Info] Email=loren@*******.com Phone=415-******* Name=Loren Cox [Network] ;@HOME DHCP=0 ;@WORK DHCP=1 Gateway=192.168.1.1 Netmask=255.255.255.0 IPAddress=192.168.1.20 DHCP=0 [sense] muteaction=1 mute=1 [power] off_timeout=60000 [aux] source= title= artist= [synchronise] seq_num=88 [wendy] flag_amount=0 [custom] wendy= [searches] amount=0 [VisualFavourites_AM] count=0 [VisualFavourites_AUX] count=0 [VisualFavourites_DSP] count=0 [VisualFavourites_FM] count=0 [shuffle] deduplicate=0 Running fsck... From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 16:49:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: K.... seems that i've found something. I plugged er up to the serial and i'm getting this message after reboot: Vcb: 0x4058a000 spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-12) spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15) spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15) spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15) spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15) spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15) .....ad nauseum.... any ideas? a quick search shows Roger saying these aren't anything important. Running fsck now. From peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:06:00 2004 From: peter at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (peter@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: a quick search shows Roger saying these aren't anything important.Yeah, except your numbers are negative. In other words, the cache is telling you something you already know: the database is taking up so much memory that there isn't enough cache left ever to spin down. Out of interest, how big is your database file (_ls -l /empeg/var_)? Peter From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:21:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:18 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: I'll check as soon as this fsck is over... could be a while... or is it okay to interupt an fsck? edit: okay, fsck done, with this result on the first drive: 
/dev/hda4: 18643/304448 files (23.3% non-contiguous), 30281113/38965657 blocks
and _ls -l /empeg/var_ results in: 
lrwxrwxrwx    1 0        220            13 Apr  1  2003 /empeg/var -< ../drive0/var
From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:31:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: ls -al /drive0/var From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:35:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:35 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: empeg:/empeg/bin# ls -al /drive0/var ls: /drive0/var: No such file or directory looks like it needs to be rebuilt eh? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:38:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Huh??? Okay... that is weird... Oh, did you unmount the drives to fsck them? Try first doing "rom" and "ro". Reboot. Go back to shell. "ls -al /drive0/var"... From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:40:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:03:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Yeah, just realized i gotta finish the fsck first =] brb... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:45:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: So you know, what I (and probably Roger also) am looking for is something that looks abnormal with one of your database files. Something that would distort the player application and make the database image in memory so large that it could not possibly spin down the drives. For reference, on my player (with lots and lots of FIDS), my files are: 
q

Restored terminal settings

Remounting first music partition read-only

Remounting second music partition read-only

Player exited normally: 0

Switching to shell-player loop

Starting bash.

empeg:/empeg/bin#

empeg:/empeg/bin# ls -al /drive0/var

total 4255

drwxr-xr-x    2 root     root         1024 Feb 12 10:58 .

drwxr-xr-x    6 root     root         1024 Feb  4 10:45 ..

-rw-------    1 root     root         1594 Dec 21 14:16 config.ini

-rw-rw-r--    1 root     root      4201145 Feb 12 10:57 database

-rw-rw-r--    1 root     root       131836 Feb 12 10:58 playlists

-rw-rw-r--    1 root     root          376 Feb 12 10:57 tags

empeg:/empeg/bin#
Granted, yours will not be the exact same size, but if they look significantly bigger, or the directory structure looks different, you may want to try to manually rebuild the databases. From BasmantarD at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:47:00 2004 From: BasmantarD at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (BasmantarD@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Master Drive Failed Attempt 2 Replace Drive Failed Message-ID: Thanks Tony, I did have to run the builder twice b/c it couldn't mount the drive the first time. The problem was a bad serial cable, so I went to CompUSAss and bought a Belkin Pro 10' (smallest they had) DB9 fem2fem serial cable for $14.99 (that should be illegal) Originally i was using an old serial cable i found male2fem and used a fem2fem gender changer but apparently either the cable or the changer was bad. New cable works like a champ, and im now stress testing the drive on my 2nd attempt. if you want the log let me know. From FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 17:50:00 2004 From: FireFox31 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (FireFox31@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:18 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Hm...... a database of 70gigs of music is filling the MKII ram, but Paul's database of 160gig isn't filling the MKIIa ram? So that few meg ram difference DOES matter? Or are Paul's drives spun up all the time? And is his player overheating because of it? And to reply to an earlier post in the thread re: flac and alternative file types: Would it keep the drives spun up to play FLAC or WAV? I'm assuming yes because it's a bit hard to cache an 80 meg song in 16 meg ram. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:03:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:21 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Hm...... a database of 70gigs of music is filling the MKII ram, but Paul's database of 160gig isn't filling the MKIIa ram? Well, that is the suspected cause. Still unproven. Just a theory. So that few meg ram difference DOES matter? The memory does help quite a bit. Or are Paul's drives spun up all the time? And is his player overheating because of it? Not that I know of, on both counts. And to reply to an earlier post in the thread re: flac and alternative file types: Would it keep the drives spun up to play FLAC or WAV? I'm assuming yes because it's a bit hard to cache an 80 meg song in 16 meg ram. Exactly. Since you need more data per second, you cannot effectively cache that kind of file as easily. Or perhaps, you can cache it, but you burn through it so quickly that it really doesn't help. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:12:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:26 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: 

empeg:/empeg/bin# ls -lah /drive0/var

total 3.1M

drwxr-xr-x    3 0        0            1.0k Jul  2 04:41 .

drwxr-xr-x    6 0        0            1.0k May 11  2035 ..

-rw-r--r--    1 0        0             810 Jul  2 04:41 config.ini

-rw-r--r--    1 0        0            3.0M Jul  2 04:41 database

-rwxr-xr-x    1 0        0             25k Mar 10  2002 date

-rwxr-xr-x    1 0        0            4.4k Mar 10  2002 pcmplay

-rw-r--r--    1 0        0             75k Jul  2 04:41 playlists

-rwxr-xr-x    1 0        0            3.7k Mar 10  2002 setvol

-rw-r--r--    1 0        0             417 Jul  2 04:41 tags

drwxr-xr-x    2 0        0            2.0k Mar 10  2002 tts

-rwxr-xr-x    1 0        0            2.5k Mar 10  2002 ttsclock
wonder if that old tts stuff is doing it. I can just nuke this whole directory right? It'll all get rebuilt? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:19:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:31 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: okay... Nothing immediately catches my attention there... In your config.ini, in the display section, you have caching=1. I am not familiar with that option, and I am looking it up. What does this do? From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:24:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:35 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Rebuilding the database after deleting all the TTS stuff. no idea about the caching=1 thing... don't recall adding that one. From ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:25:00 2004 From: ricin at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ricin@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: I believe that just enables the disk activity icon... I think... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:25:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: I found it. Basically the option that turns on the display of disk activity... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:31:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:48 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: One thought (back to the original subject). If your player is running that hot (granted, with the drives spinning all the time) you may still want to install a cooling fan. Just to be safe. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:33:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:53 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: okay... databases have been rebuilt, and both drives fscked. Rebooted and still getting this: 
Vcb: 0x4058a000

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-12)

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15)

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15)

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15)

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15)

  spindown_chunk_cache_runner.cpp: 294:Filling up space (-15)
Any other ideas?? I'm going to run a ram check... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:40:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:04:57 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Which kernel are you running? Default? Hijack? Custom? From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:42:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:01 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: hijack 363 v2final Error after ram test: 
tplayer(13): memory violation at pc=0x00000000, lr=0x020caf3c (bad address=0x000

00000, code 2)

pc : [<00000000<]    lr : [<020caf3c<]

sp : 00000000  ip : bf1ffac0  fp : 00000000

r10: 00000000  r9 : 00000000  r8 : 00000000

r7 : 00000000  r6 : 00000000  r5 : 00000000  r4 : 00000000

r3 : 00000000  r2 : 00000000  r1 : 00000001  r0 : 00000001

Flags: nzCv  IRQs on  FIQs on  Mode USER_32  Segment user

Control: D036517D  Table: D036517D  DAC: 00000015
that doesn't look good From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:49:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Perhaps a re-flash of the kernel? Other than that, I am at a loss. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Sun Apr 25 18:56:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Well, i'm off to get a kiteboarding session in if the thermals end up kicking in for the evening... so i'll try a kernal reflash and update when i get back. Thanks for your help!!! From tfabris at jps.net Sun Apr 25 19:08:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:11 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: 2.0 is correct. To troubleshoot ethernet, click here. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 01:55:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:14 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Reflashed kernal to latest hijack... same thing. Bad RAM??? edit: ahhh dammit. i just noticed this in the boot log: Could not find CS4231A (version=80) sonofa. Same problem mvigneau had? Was that ever resolved? The thread on it just sorta ends. From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 02:08:00 2004 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Yes, he describes the long sordid tale here. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 02:27:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Sun Apr 25 23:05:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Argh. Thanks for that link... but seems like i'm up a creek. If i read that right, it was an ethernet chip failure of somesort... but i'm not seeing any ethernet problems. Mark (nudge nudge) any ideas? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 08:16:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:00:25 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Question: other than the unit getting hot, do you notice any problems playing music back? Any other symptoms? From zexpe at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 09:25:00 2004 From: zexpe at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (zexpe@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:00:34 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: There doesn't seem to be much support in our excellent FAQ to guide poor Linux users through the hard drive upgrade process. I've successfully performed a drive upgrade in the past using Windows, but now I only have a Linux box and I keep running into problems. First off, I'm using minicom, as suggested, to monitor the empeg's serial output. However, it's not working very well at all. I've set it up for the correct baud rate, parity etc. but upon the rebooting empeg I only receive a tiny, randomly timed, amount of output from the empeg. Typically just something like "let the pegui", or "empeg-ca", etc. and there's now way of accessing the player software. Any ideas what's happening here? When it comes to upgrading the player's flash with the drive builder firmware (and then later the 2.0 firmware) can I use Jemplode? I remember in the past that serial connections in Jemplode were near on impossible to get working, but can I perform the upgrade over the ethernet connection? If not, then is emptool the only way to go? And is there any advice on how to safely use emptool with respect to a drive upgrade? Thanks for your help, Ross From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 09:57:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:00:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: While entire flocks of penguins swear by minicom, I very much prefer the longevity of ckermit for all of my serial comms situations. And since you are already using Linux, you could do a drive-to-drive copy or direct-to-drive installation rather than deal with the tedious upgrade "tools" that we are otherwise stuck with. I believe _Roger_ (or was it _peter_?) recently posted step-by-step instructions for such. Cheers From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 10:01:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:00:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Send me your board (_just_ the mainboard, nothing else), Loren, and I'll hack away :-O) at it. It could really be just about anything on the peripheral bus that gives that behaviour. I can probably isolate the fault with some effort, but note that I don't have the right equipment/skill to replace the quad flat packs here -- if it comes to that, you'll need to farm it out elsewhere (or perhaps it will motivate me to get a hot air station for such jobs..). Cheers From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 10:22:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:00 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: It was me. See this and this. From zexpe at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 11:26:00 2004 From: zexpe at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (zexpe@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: OK, looks good, but the only way to do that is to get hold of one of those laptop to PC IDE adaptors, right? Looks like I need a trip to the shops... And is it really easier to do a manual partition and format??? Ross From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 13:10:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:18 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Any other symptoms?It is fidgety... by which i mean it will sometimes stutter when coming back from a pause or take a long time to start playing after a pause, but those are symptoms of it having to read from disk more than anything. Other than that it just runs hot. Everything else seems to function fine. Mark, is there anything i can look for or trace with a multimeter myself before i ship the mainboard off? I'm reasonably competant around components. Is there any way to check via software how much RAM it's able to use after bootup to determine if it is indeed a bad chip? Looks like i'll be testing the MkIIa board swap out of necessity! =] From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 13:44:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: > OK, looks good, but the only way to do that is to get hold of one of those laptop to PC IDE adaptors, right? You can follow these instructions on the empeg itself (I did) as long as you keep the original drive for hda in there while you upgrade hdc. You'll still need to get serial working in order to install the software upgrade at the end of the process. This means that you still need to work out why you're getting corrupted serial output from the empeg. Try a different cable. Try a different serial port. Try a different PC. There ought to be a Unix console serial upgrader somewhere. All the code you need is in the emptool sources, in lib/protocol/upgrader.cpp. I think you'll need to write a main() for it, though. > And is it really easier to do a manual partition and format??? No. You'll need to solve your serial problems either way. From tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 13:56:00 2004 From: tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tms13@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:36 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: In reply to:There ought to be a Unix console serial upgrader somewhere. All the code you need is in the emptool sources, in lib/protocol/upgrader.cpp. I think you'll need to write a main() for it, though.I think upgclient is one of the things that gets built from the emptool sources - i.e. the main() is provided. It's a while since I built it, though - and next time I'll probably upgrade around Hijack using mlord's via-ethernet upgrader. From pim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 14:44:00 2004 From: pim at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pim@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: but the only way to do that is to get hold of one of those laptop to PC IDE adaptors, right? Yes, that, or a 2.5" IDE USB 2/FireWire case, or run it from the Empeg itself, like Roger said. Pim From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 14:51:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:01:53 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Drive Upgrades with Linux Message-ID: > I think upgclient is one of the things that gets built from the emptool sources I don't think so -- the Makefile makes references to the 'pump' directory, but it doesn't appear to be released. A binary of upgclient is available here, though: http://www.empeg.com/downloads/empegcar-v2.00.i386-linux.tar.gz From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 16:47:00 2004 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Sorry to hear about the problems with your MK2. I know this isn't going to solve your problem, but it won't hurt your empeg any more than it already is. I completely remove all comments fields from my ID3 tags in emplode. The comments field uses RAM on the player, so what better way to free up our precious memory then to remove all comments tagged in mp3's I hope the lord will be able to fix your empeg, it’s really painful when we read about hurting empegs From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 18:49:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:14 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: 'cause i use the comments extensively to list artist's labels. In fact that was one of the main reasons for my mass retagging. =] From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 19:11:00 2004 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:23 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: I'd leave those fields off the empeg, leave them on your PC, but it’s really isn't necessary to track that in the empeg database. Whenever I need to lookup the detailed stats on an album, I query CD Universe From oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Mon Apr 26 19:14:00 2004 From: oliver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (oliver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: or maybe, remove the comments from all the tracks, and put the record label in the playlist ID3 tag, that way you only have it once in memory, and not multiple times for each track in the playlist? Either way, with 12mb of memory, and a 70gb drive of MP3’s. It’s going to run into memory problems I’d think. I remember the empeg guys saying they didn’t use anything over a 30gb drive in their personal empegs. From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 00:07:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:40 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Guys, I finally got it to connect. It just downloaded all the playlists. I'm going to attempt uploading a bunch of MP3s soon. FYI- I tried using a crossover eth cable to connect directly to my powerbook's builtin ethernet port and made sure it was 10baseT. Tried fixed IP on same subnet, and even DHCP. never worked. So, I hooked it up to my router. The player picked up a dynamic IP in the same subnet as my powerbook, great. Still could not connect. I should mention that Jemplode could see the player on the network with the right IP, but never could load the playlists, until... I switched back to an older version of Jemplode, v. 2.0b1. Worked instantly, no problems. What gives? Thanks. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 00:56:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Mon Apr 26 23:02:49 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Are the visuals working -- in particular the various spectrometer ones ? The cs4231a chip is required to make those work from tuner/aux, but not from mp3 playback. Can you try tuner/aux? Since the hard drive is working, we know it's not a simple stuck data line like the previous bad player I diagnosed. And you say ethernet is working, so that's good. How about USB? If USB is good, and tuner/aux visuals don't work (the bar graphs and spectro ones), then the cs4231a *really* is bad, so no need to send me the board. Cheers From thinfourth2 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 04:17:00 2004 From: thinfourth2 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thinfourth2@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:00:26 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Okay lets get this back on topic can you stick a Mk2a board in a mk2 case reason the mk2 case is a nicer grade of stainless and i want to polish it. From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 08:57:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:00:42 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Steering WHeel Remote Message-ID: Tony, can you get the Empeg to recognize long button presses from your Pioneer SR-77? From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 09:03:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:00:57 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Blaupunkt Sterring wheel remote... Message-ID: Taym, can you get the Empeg to recognize Long presses with your SR100? Do you ever get a single button-press generate more than one to the Empeg? From taym at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 10:57:00 2004 From: taym at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (taym@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:01:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Blaupunkt Sterring wheel remote... Message-ID: I have uninstalled the SR 100 remote a while ago. I do remember that some buttons at least could not. Maybe none of the buttons could. And yes, unfortunately I did get more than one presses instead of one, but I seem to remember it was only related to the top button. From yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 11:11:00 2004 From: yn0t_ at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (yn0t_@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:01:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Steering WHeel Remote Message-ID: Tony, can you get the Empeg to recognize long button presses from your Pioneer SR-77? Yes, except for one of the bottom two buttons on the front, which seems to be goofy, and sends an alternating sequence of button codes when held (or something like that.) Otherwise, they all work for short and long presses. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 11:55:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:01:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Remote operating funny Message-ID: I read the FAQ's but this was mentioned: When using the Rio remote, with a new battery, the response from the HU is lagged. For example, when doing a search for a particular song I will go through the required button presses. The initial press brings a response immediately from the player. However, subsequent presses experience a lag of as much as 10 seconds, witht the player finally not responding at all! Any ideas? Ed From dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 12:18:00 2004 From: dbrashear at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (dbrashear@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:01:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: Do you only get delays while searching, or during other things also? I've been having a problem where a lot of button presses seem to get dropped, even with a new battery, but I think you're describing something else... and I just want to be sure of that. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 12:41:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:01:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: No, i get delays for all functions From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 13:15:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:02:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: Something fishy is happening on the serial port. Please post the config.ini file you are using. From image at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 13:16:00 2004 From: image at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (image@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:02:30 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: is this only on the remote? is there no lag when using the console buttons? From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 13:48:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:02:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Blaupunkt Sterring wheel remote... Message-ID: Thanks From jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 13:50:00 2004 From: jules at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jules@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:02:52 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Steering WHeel Remote Message-ID: Thanks. I bet its the bottom right. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 14:15:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:02:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: No..the push buttons work fine...it is just when using the remote..and i even have 2 remotes and the response is the same for each From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 14:16:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:03:13 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: ummm...how would i do that? From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 15:30:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:03:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Just as an aside, you shouldn't need a crossover cable with your powerbook. Apple has used autoswitching ethernet ports for quite a while. Did you try it with a straight through? From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 15:44:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:03:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: Use the FAQs. From matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 15:47:00 2004 From: matthew_k at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (matthew_k@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:03:38 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: Did you try it with a straight through? Just as an aside, you shouldn't need a straight through cable with your powerbook. Apple has used autoswitching ethernet ports for quite a while. Sorry, couldn't resist. Matthew From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 15:48:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:03:56 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: so very true. *ducks under desk* From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 15:53:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:04:06 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: While I have done some work via Hyperterminal, I don't beleive i have ever fiddled with config.ini. I will have to post it later when i have a chance, but what should i be looking for when i run it? From tfabris at jps.net Tue Apr 27 15:56:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:04:17 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: Just open up the config.ini in Emplode and paste it here. You need to do this first. From edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 16:22:00 2004 From: edsmiata at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (edsmiata@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:04:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Remote operating funny Message-ID: Okey-Dok! I'll be back... From rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Tue Apr 27 16:35:00 2004 From: rsgalloway at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (rsgalloway@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Tue Apr 27 23:04:38 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: _Just as an aside, you shouldn't need a crossover cable with your powerbook. Apple has used autoswitching ethernet ports for quite a while. Did you try it with a straight through?_ I wish I knew that before I bought one. Anyway, yes, I did try both ways, not that it matters, I guess. Like I said, it could pick up the player, just couldn't read anything from it. It stayed in a perpetual "Loading" state. It wasn't until I switched back to Jemplode v2.0b (or whatever) that it worked. I also noticed that my older version of Jemplode came with many more support files. The latest one I downloaded from jempeg.org only came with a single file, jemplode.jar. Anyway, it doesn't matter too much, I guess. It seems I can do what I need to do. Anyone know if these files will also work under Xwindows? I tried using java -jar but no luck. From tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 10:43:00 2004 From: tms13 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tms13@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:00:31 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Apple powerbook, MK2 and Jemplode? Message-ID: In reply to:Anyone know if these files will also work under Xwindows? I tried using java -jar but no luck.If you mean the X Window System, then yes, the latest jar (and the previous ones that I've used) work fine with X (on Linux) for me. Did you say which version of Java you're using? (java -version). I'm on 1.4.1, if that helps. From jem7784 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 11:14:00 2004 From: jem7784 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jem7784@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:00:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: For the past month or so I've been having a horrible time getting songs on the player. Every time I would try to upload things the player would crash. This happened with Emplode and JEmplode. It would also happen with ethernet and USB uploads. So I reformatted the hard drives (I have a 60Gb and a 20GB) and started over. Once I did that, I was able to reload roughly 50 GB with no problems... then it once again crashed at the end of the other 15 GB. Then I went on a trip and it acted up the whole trip. I got back and resynced and it said there were problems loading the player configuration. But I got it synced and all was well (Ths was Sunday night). Then yesterday I tried to upload some music to the player and once again, a crash, which leads to having to do a fsck and database rebuild. It did this overnight and this morning I was able to load songs in no problem.. It appears I have a problem somewhere.. but no idea where. I'm running v3a7 and Hijack 383. The other odd thing I'm noticing is that in the playlist count it is often showing "s!!" next to the track count list and before the time count. It shows up on some tracks and not on others. Anyone have an idea what the problem might be or if there even IS a problem. I did not have the problem until going to v7, but also didn't have the problem with a7 for a month or so after upgrading Jemmi From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 11:21:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:00:53 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: You might want to look for drive problems (cable and IDE header). From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 28 13:21:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: I'm noticing is that in the playlist count it is often showing "s!!" This is explained here. Regarding your troubles: As Paul said, I'd look for problems with the cable and IDE header, along with checking every single other thing in this list. However, if I were you, I'd start by going back to version 2.0 final, which is known to be stable and reasonably bug-free. From jem7784 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 14:36:00 2004 From: jem7784 at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (jem7784@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:12 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: Tony... thank you once again... the only thing I don't understand is I've NEVER marked any tracks... I wonder where that came from... Jemmi From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 14:43:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: All the more reason to suspect disk weirdness or to downgrade to 2.0 just to verify the environment. From tfabris at jps.net Wed Apr 28 14:46:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:31 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Upload / Sync weirdness Message-ID: the only thing I don't understand is I've NEVER marked any tracks... I wonder where that came from... I believe that one of the reported bugs in 3a7 is that some tracks are getting unintentionally marked. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 16:20:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:41 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: K, Mark, i tested the visuals and they definitely work fine with the tuner... so looks like the chip isn't bad after all. argh. Gotta try out USB. From tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 19:27:00 2004 From: tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tracerbullet@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:01:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: I've had this on and off for a half year or so, and pulling the player out and back in has always solved it. I blamed it on cold weather, etc. each time. I've kept the player out of the car almost all winter (it gets 0 and below here) and finally dragged it back out of hiding a few weeks ago. I can't get anything to happen except for the player to give me this error message. I've gone through the FAQ and tried a few steps - I ordered a new cable from Eutronix and replaced it, a pretty simple matter really (I build PC's). Well, that didn't work. I checked the solder on the section shown in the FAQ pictures and everything appeared to be attached. I tried running it through the serial port and Hyperterminal, and can't seem to connect. I noticed emplode can no longer find the player either, and I don't think I've changed anything since the last time it worked. I'm not sure what version of hijack or anything I'm on, but it's a year old or so. At this point I'm stumped. I've got so much going on right now that if I try troubleshooting it any more it won't get looked at for the next 6 months. Right now I'd like to know: 1) Who do I send it to that can fix it? 2) Roughly what's the cost? (Knowing that can change depending on what's found) Thanks - From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 23:20:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:02:00 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: I can (most likely) fix it. Cost will depend very much on effort, but even the worst jobs thus far have been cheap (for the owner). Minimum is US$50 to poke at it, and that's usually enough to fix it. Max is more like US$100, which I don't think I've had to charge yet. As you can see, I don't make much for the effort put in, as my motivation is simply to help keep these nice machines purring along. Cheers From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 23:20:00 2004 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:02:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: 1) Who do I send it to that can fix it? Probably the same guys that sold you the cable. ;-) I think the cost is around 20 buck or so, really fair IMO. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Wed Apr 28 23:21:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Wed Apr 28 23:02:19 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: You really will need to figure out the serial connection first. We need to see the output from the player immediately after power-on. On AC-power, this will be 115200bps 8N1 settings. -ml From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 04:28:00 2004 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:00:41 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: For those folks who have done the fan upgrade, how did you attach your fan to the case lid and what works best? I'm aware of: Farnell rivets (This was my first choice but unfortunately they won't fit the mouser fan) Super glue (Is there potential acetic acid fumes?) Double stick tape (How long will it stick?) Silicone gasket adhesive (Produces acetic acid fumes) Anything else that can be used? From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 04:50:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:00:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: > 115200bps 8N1 settings ...with no flow control. From ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 05:16:00 2004 From: ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ratscrew@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: I am having problems getting my new 80 gig Toshiba drive to install correctly. (model mk8025gas). I am simply trying to replace my factory 20 gig drive with this new drive. Applying the upgrade seems to work (pumping partions/ complete) and I immediately open up hyperterminal per the directions. The drive is recognized (as hda correctly) but further on down the text, it says no primary drive. The directions say it should start formatting the disk, but I have not seen this happen yet. Here is the print out of the info on my hyper terminal................................................................................. If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, (it' No primary har or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!seco bash: e2fsck: command not foundempeg init 0.8 e000 v1.04 Copying kernel...eg:/dev# rw Calling linux kernel...No secondary ha Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne Restart code received l. e Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 empeg:/dev# rwm mount: /drive0 not mounted (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11gs.cpp mount: /drive0 not mounted NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel C Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) ÿIf there is empeg:/drive0# ls0x4054d Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)/drive0# ls -a en . .. f POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIXgss Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Parallelizi Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 No empeg:/drive0# NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0rive0# cd .. read-onlyp1 empeg:/bin# hdstres: 61: empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 empeg:/bin# hdstress empeg remote control/panel button initialised. N Nn Nn Ni Prolux 4 empeg empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012ed checking /dev/hda3 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005800). Ni Nt Nl Ne empeg RDS driver initialised Read/write of 8Mb too empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot) Remounting hdstress.cpp 189 ( 6 RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDEa: Spinn hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 < hda2 hda3 hda4 hdstress.cpp 189 ( RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...okay Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8 I see this is a developer image! Mounting proc Mounting first music partition Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19 VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4). Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as ext2 but got error 22 Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted) Remounting first music partition read-only No primary hard disk Remounting second music partition read-only No secondary hard disk Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To ComplùStarti ng player player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01. ! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002). Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003 Vcb: 0x4054d000 I am not using any jumpers on the drive since it is the only drive. I am concerned over this line... VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4). as it seems like the one that starts my problems.... can anyone assist me on this issue? ( i have tried deleting all partitions created to start the update fresh, and sure enough all partitions 1-6 are created on the drive, but i still get the no primary drive error...) Chris From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 05:56:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:21 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: Was this log taken with Hyperterminal? If so, can you do that again, but this time, use the Transfer/Capture menu option to save the log to a file: Choose a file, and then turn on the player. Hyperterminal's scroll back buffer is about as sane as a ferret with advanced dementia. From ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 06:16:00 2004 From: ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ratscrew@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: here is the more readable version (though this is not the first boot after the update... i will try that and post that again now) empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 (hugo@empeg.com) If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now, or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux! e000 v1.04 Copying kernel... Calling linux kernel... Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel. Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg52 (rob@aphex) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #11 Tue Apr 1 18:49:59 BST 2003 Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp. empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 90000805) Command line: mem=12m Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS Memory: 10968k/12M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 332k data, 4k init) Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k) Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k) Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k) POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039 NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0 IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384) IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli) Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 ) ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 ) Starting kswapd v 1.5 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART Signature is 67706d65 'empg' Scheduling custom logo. empeg display initialised. empeg dsp audio initialised empeg dsp mixer initialised empeg dsp initialised empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0 empeg remote control/panel button initialised. empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012 empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005d00). empeg RDS driver initialised empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot) RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size empeg single channel IDE Probing primary interface... hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, ATA DISK drive ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6 hda: TOSHIBA MK8025GAS, 76319MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63 empeg-flash driver initialized smc chip id/revision 0x3349 smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu) SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:12:03:25 Partition check: hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 < hda2 hda3 hda4 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done. EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem). empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601) Press Ctrl-A to enter pump... VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev ide0(3,4). player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00 2003/04/01. ! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002). Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Mar 26 2003 Vcb: 0x4054d000 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 06:25:00 2004 From: Roger at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Roger Lipscombe) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:44 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: OK, so your music partition isn't formatted. How did you format the new drive? You used the builder image, yes? Either try that again, or follow these instructions to format it manually. You'll have to replace every instance of "hdc" with "hda" if you've got the disk installed as the first drive in your empeg. From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 07:52:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:01:58 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: Greetings! It would be a good idea to try and capture a log of the build as it is going. There is a known weirdness with the builder (does anyone know if it is a proven bug) where you sometimes have to run it more than once. From Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 08:36:00 2004 From: Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Cristian@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:02:10 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: I used the farnell rivets on mine, I have lots spare if anyone wants some. The fan is very very tight against the display board when you are taking the top off, so it may be worth doing a dry run before you do any super glueing, the Double sided sticky tape idea sounds good to start with. Cheers Cris. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 10:27:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:02:24 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: How did you get the rivets to fully engage into the fan? I've tried everything I can think of and they never stay in because they aren't engaged all the way. The fan is set so far into the lid that getting tools that reach that far is also rather problematic. Stu From tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 12:17:00 2004 From: tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tracerbullet@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:02:35 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: I did the hyperterminal per the FAQ instructions, including the no flow bit. As I mentioned, I also noticed that emplode doesn't see it anymore. I don't think I changed anything on my computer to prevent it, and I know the serial ports, etc. are turned on in the BIOS. I'll bring it in to work or somewhere else and try out a different PC, it's possible (likely even) that I have hosed up my ability to use my serial port on my PC at home. I tend to "try out" a lot of different mods, programs, etc. on it and who knows what effects they have sometimes. I'll do that and reply back. Perhaps we can nail this down. Busy or not, I want to get it working, so I'll find the time to do it! Thanks all, hopefully I'll have an answer tonight or in the morning. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 12:20:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:02:45 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: It's worth it to triple-check that you are using a null-modem cable. Of course, I don't know any way to conveniently do that unless it happens to be stamped on the cable itself. From tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 12:23:00 2004 From: tracerbullet at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (tracerbullet@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:02:55 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: I'm using the cable that came with the empeg when I bought it... From Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 12:30:00 2004 From: Cristian at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Cristian@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:05 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: Um, not sure if I understand the problem here Stu, Are you using the same "rivits" as me??? the ones with a puch in piece in the middle??? If I get chance I'll take some photos of the fan mounted on the back of the top plate for you and post them here. Cheers Cris. From maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 12:59:00 2004 From: maczrool at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (maczrool@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:09 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: I think I am. They are Farnell two piece plastic rivets. I know how they should be, but no matter how much force I apply to them, they won't push through all the way. Thanks, Stu From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 13:45:00 2004 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: A little back story, Stu is currently upgrading Nanci (who was on loan to Filener Laser as a tester). I forwarded rivets and 2 fans to him (one mouser and one farnell). The rivets should be Farnell part 722-4321 but I didn't double check when I received them. Instead of installing the 5V fan as recommend by PCA in the FAQ, we went with a 12V Mouser fan. There was some concern that a fan would generate noise if connected to the same 5V header as the digital out board. Unfortunately, the rivets do not appear to be compatible. I suggested using silicone gasket adhesive to glue the fan but Stu tells me that the silicone can cause problems with the electronics. This is how I affixed the fan in my other player so I'll need to find another solution for Jolene also. From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 29 14:27:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: I used RTV silicone and I have not had any problems. Photos and a detailed description of the project including which header I used for the power are here. From tfabris at jps.net Thu Apr 29 14:30:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:27 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: It's possible that the cable has gone bad. I've had two serial cables go bad on me (fraying). From ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 14:52:00 2004 From: ratscrew at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (ratscrew@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:33 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: HD 80GB Toshiba upgrade issues, ext2 not found?? Message-ID: Thanks so much Roger! Seems like there was an issue with the .upgrade file writing to my drive. Now all is well and i have 74 gb free in emplode!! Thanks so much! Chris From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 18:48:00 2004 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:37 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: I did the same when I installed it and haven't had any problems either. I did find a non-corrosive silicone adhesive which looks good. Stu, do you see any problems with this adhesive? _GE 162 Silicone_ Noncorrosive to copper and brass, this RTV silicone paste reaches full strength at room temp. Use to bond capacitors, resistors, and integrated circuits to printed circuit boards. Also use to insulate relays, exposed copper wires and terminals. Begins to harden in 4 hrs.; reaches full strength in 48 hrs. Temp. range is -75° to +400° F. UL recognized. Color is white. Meets MIL-A-46146B. If not, I'll have a tube shipped to you. From SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Thu Apr 29 20:02:00 2004 From: SE_Sport_Driver at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (SE_Sport_Driver@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Thu Apr 29 23:03:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Another Darned "Hard Disk Not Found" Thread Message-ID: No other programs stealing the COM port? From david at empeg.com Fri Apr 30 06:36:00 2004 From: david at empeg.com (David Moss) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:00:20 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: You can. I built half a dozen hybrid Mk2/Mk2a units which were Mk2a metalwork with Mk2 boards in them, so you should be able to do it the other way around. Remember to be careful when removing the display and mainboards - I'm fairly sure there's videos of me doing it in the FAQ. From Flawed at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 10:46:00 2004 From: Flawed at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Flawed@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:00:31 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Player Hangs at Starting Audio... Message-ID: It's done this before but I don't recall how I fixed it. I was just playing some music that I'd played before so I know it's not a corrupt file or anything and I was messing about in hijack. Basically it looks like I managed to set the source to first aux, nothing is connected there, and then to tuner. Of course I don't have one of those either. Now rebooting it hangs up. Emplode can't see it and I cna't get it to do anything other than respond to hijack commands. Suggestions? Boot log forthcoming... From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 11:06:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:00:41 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Player Hangs at Starting Audio... Message-ID: The boot log would be good. I suspect (without seeing any data) that you somehow have a corrupt current playlist, and need to start the player with a clean / clear playlist. Instructions here in the FAQ. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 11:14:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:00:51 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Half of my display is blank Message-ID: I got into the car this morning and half of my display was blank. Memory told me it was this problem, but after doing some research, I don't think it is. The difference is that the half of my display that's blank is interleaved with the half that works right. That's right, I've got stripes! Vertical stripes, to be specific. About a dozen on-stripes and a dozen off-stripes. Anyone have any ideas? From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 11:42:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:02 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Half of my display is blank Message-ID: Does this appear when booting also? (initial tux image) Possibly a reload of firmware and getting rid of any custom applications might help. But that is only if the problem is software based. You might want to try loading a clean copy of 2.0 final without any add-ons, just to verify. If that does not help, then it is a matter of looking at hardware... From Flawed at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 12:10:00 2004 From: Flawed at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Flawed@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:12 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Player Hangs at Starting Audio... Message-ID: Well I was going to post the bootlog but on a whim I decided to simply reflash the kernel with 2 beat 13 and it works now. I sure won't bitch about that... Thanks anyway guys! From pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 13:09:00 2004 From: pgrzelak at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (pgrzelak@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:22 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Player Hangs at Starting Audio... Message-ID: Why 2b13 and not 2.0 final? Just curious. From tfabris at jps.net Fri Apr 30 13:24:00 2004 From: tfabris at jps.net (Tony Fabris) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:32 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Remember to be careful when removing the display and mainboards - I'm fairly sure there's videos of me doing it in the FAQ. Yup, in both the drive upgrade guide and here. From loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 13:53:00 2004 From: loren at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (loren@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:43 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Swapping MkIIa board into MkII case Message-ID: Sweet, thanks for the confirmation. Now that i think about it... i have one of those hybrids in my closet that Rob sold me a ways back for Kelly. Totally forgot about that. Guess i'll go ahead and do the swap until i can figure out this "bad chip" error. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 14:03:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:01:53 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Half of my display is blank Message-ID: Yeah. It's 100% of the time. And Trevor brought up offline that I might have blown a display fuse -- the garbled display thing -- but I haven't so much as opened the empeg case in months, so it's not like I just recently plugged in the display cable off by one or anything. From mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 14:35:00 2004 From: mlord at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (mlord@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:02:03 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Half of my display is blank Message-ID: The display fuses have been reported to just blow on their own from spike to spike.. From wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 15:11:00 2004 From: wfaulk at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (wfaulk@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:02:16 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Half of my display is blank Message-ID: I'll give it a shot, then. Good excuse to buy myself a decent multimeter. From thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 19:56:00 2004 From: thrasher at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (thrasher@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:02:29 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: Do any of you guys need any fans.I have two the really small ones adda dc brushless #ad0412ms-G70 12v o.o8a From Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org Fri Apr 30 20:04:00 2004 From: Mach at empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org (Mach@empegbbs-noreply.merlins.org) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:02:39 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: Just to follow-up, I ordered a tube of GE 162 Silicone from www.mcmaster.com. I'll post back after the results are in. From laura927 at one.net Fri Apr 30 20:20:00 2004 From: laura927 at one.net (Laura White) Date: Fri Apr 30 23:02:49 2004 Subject: [Empeg-technical] Re: Attaching a cooling fan to the case Message-ID: What else besides the fans would I need?