Tivo capability in a PC

[zeetivo]

Rob, 

I totally agree that if someone can produce the remote interface 
hardware and provide guide data Tivo becomes much less attractive and
a PC solution is possible. The great thing about Tivo is that a 8 year 
old as well as a 70 year old can use it. You cannot say that about
any PC solution today.

Can you update me on your experience with the 8500DV. 

1. I was thinking about getting an 8500DV but according to several 
reviews the video is not that great. Here is a link to one:

http://gamespot.com/gshw/filters/products/review/0,12835,546153,00.htm
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Have you seen these problems?

2. How well does the guide data work?

3. How well does the remote work? I assume you cannot control
a dish or cable box?

I'd love to have a PC solution, I just don't think we are there yet. 

So Tivo is the best choice.... for now.

Thanks for your input.

Zee

--- In ExtractStream@y..., Rob Royse <rob@r...> wrote:
> Steve,
> 
> I agree with you, and I have much of the same functionality in my 
new ATI
> Radeon 8500DV video card, and they have even added an excellent RF 
remote
> with this card and firewire capability to boot. I can see this card 
being
> VERY popular with those trying to integrate the PC into their home 
theatre
> setups. The PC is a logical "Tivo Killer" for all the reasons you 
cited,
> except:
> 
> The only problem I see with it is a common one that all the PC-based
> products seem to stumble over:
> 
> 1.	Simply no mechanism for controlling the source tuner if it 
isn't
> broadcast "over the air" or in basic cable not requiring some sort 
of set
> top box. Same thing with DBS Satellite systems. The one thing Tivo 
does
> (among others) EXTREMELY well is to control/change channels of DSS 
receivers
> and Cable Boxes. I have yet to see any sort of viable solution on 
the PC,
> despite the fact that the PC has even more robust connectivity than 
a Tivo
> does. I don't know about you, but 95% of the programming I am 
interested in
> archiving to a CD or DVD from my Tivo is what I consider to be 
"premium"
> content, and it requires intelligence from either the PVR or the PC 
to
> change channels. I know it isn't rocket science, but I haven't seen 
it yet
> on the PC.
> 
> I would be extremely surprised if someone either hasn't developed 
such a
> solution or isn't working on one. I just haven't looked into it yet. 
I wish
> whoever the best of luck and I hope to see such a product soon!
> 
> I would love for my PC to become the "hub" of my entertainment 
system, at
> least as far as archiving and distribution inside my home is 
concerned. I
> already have several sources inside my home modulated for output to 
unused
> cable channels so that I can watch any source in any room of my 
home, but
> the PC just has to develop the proper control mechanisms...
> 
> Just my two drachmas,
> 
> Rob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: steve bryan [mailto:steve_bryan@m...] 
> Sent: December 28, 2001 2:37 PM
> To: ExtractStream@y...
> Subject: [ExtractStream] Re: Tivo capability in a PC
> 
> There is now a working TiVo-style product available product from 
> Creative Labs for about $100. So instead of trying to cobble on an 
> ethernet connector and bypass the intentional obfuscation of the 
> captured signal you get access to everything just as we expect with 
a 
> PC (as differentiated from consumer electronics boxes). Of course 
the 
> image is on a PC monitor rather than your TV (unless you have the 
> necessary ingredients of a HTPC) but the results are very nifty. 
> Because it does the mpeg-2 encoding in a dedicated chip there is 
> almost no burden on the main processor (around 5% has been 
reported). 
> You can easily be playing "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" in the 
> foreground and not even realize it is recording in the background 
> (you need to leave the program running in standby mode in the system 
> tray). You could be viewing other recorded programs while recording 
> or even do the standard TiVo trick of viewing earlier parts of a 
> program while recording the later parts. This really seems to be the 
> realization in a $100 pci card of a 'digital' TV product first 
> introduced in the early nineties based on a SGI workstation (anyone 
> remember the name of that product?).
> 
> I wouldn't say there is nothing to be improved in the scheduling 
> software or the steps needed to make the files available to other 
> applications but this is the real item. There is also no interface 
to 
> any of the electronic programming guides. However, in every other 
way 
> this is even better than the revamped ReplayTV or hacked TiVo. I've 
> not seen the product in a store yet but it can be ordered directly 
> from Creative Labs.
> -- 
> 
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