[ExtractStream] Re: Could we categorize every tool? - right on and a challenge

Michael Loftis mloftis at w...
Wed, 01 May 2002 18:27:12 -0700


This sounds more like a Knowledge Base/Knowledge Web (err maybe a 
wikki.....) (not a FAQ) or an Expert System.

jemenake wrote:

>--- In ExtractStream@y..., "Mark Weaver" <mweaver@u...> wrote:
>
>>The cookbooks that are out
>>there only list a single way to accomplish the end game
>>
>
>Right.... and it's often hard to tell which ones are the "old way" 
>and which ones are newer, easier ways. For example, some newer tools 
>(TiVoApp, for instance) seem to incorporate several of the steps I 
>outlined. It even contains (and, hence, supercedes) a few older tools 
>like tyconvert, etc.
>
>However, there's another aspect of this that I haven't addressed... 
>and that's how traumatic you want the process to be. Some people are 
>fine with pulling the hard drive from their TiVo on occasion and 
>extracting a whole mess of stuff really fast and then putting the 
>drive back in the TiVo. Some other cookbooks I've seen tell you to 
>kill the "MyWorld" program that runs TiVo's GUI on the TV. In this 
>case, you have to reboot your TiVo after you're done downloading your 
>shows from it.
>
>However, I'm not in a hurry so long as I don't have to babysit the 
>extraction process. I'd like to queue up a few hours of shows for 
>download and then run off to work. The transfer can take all damn day 
>for all I care... but I want my TiVo to be able to operate normally 
>through the whole process... including recording new shows.
>
>So, here's what I ultimately think that we need. We need a little web 
>page where people can indicate their preference of transfer-speed vs. 
>the amount of effort required to "restore" their tivo to proper 
>operation afterward. It would also ask them what platform (Linux or 
>Windows) they'll be doing the "off-tivo" processing on. Lastly, it 
>would ask them what format they want the files in: VCD, SVCD, AVI, 
>mpeg, whatever. Then, the website could offer up the cookbook that 
>will give them the best results for what they want.
>
>Also, each cookbook could offer a few different options based upon 
>ease of use, quality of results, monetary cost, speed, etc. For 
>example, for a step where they convert from some generic mpeg format 
>to a VCD format, the cookbook could say:
>
> Best - Ulead Media Stuido ($199)
>Better - Pinnacle Studio ($99)
> Good - TMpgEnc (Free)
>
>Does this sound like a good idea?
>
>- Joe
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