From olaf_sc at yahoo.com Tue Nov 12 02:29:27 2002 From: olaf_sc at yahoo.com (Olaf Beck) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 18:29:27 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] New GPLed demux (split) tool for Dtivo - need help with SA streams Message-ID: <200211111829.27747.olaf_sc@yahoo.com> ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment Hello Folks, I have coded a new tool tydemux to split Dtivo TyStreams it's working nice for me but I only have Dtivo ver 2.5.2. Hence I need help with debugging (testing) and also samples of SA Tivo and UK Tivo streams so I can make it work with those models too. Tydemux comes in both a Linux and a Windows version + sources for all other Unix systems (but it's only tested on Linux and Windows). The final goal is to produce SVCD and DVD compliant MPEG streams directly from the TyStream (i.e. remux). At the moment I'm working on the internal tanscode of the audio (AC3 48kHz to AC3/MPEG Layer II 44.1kHz) it's working but the sound quality is not up to spec so it's ifdef out in the release code. Anyways tydemux is quite easy to use just do tydemux -i my_ty_stream -v video_out -a audio_out tydemux will probe the stream for audio type (AC3/MPEG) and extract the right audio stream based on it's finding during the probe. There is naturally has functions to jump to specific start sectors and also to set the audio type manually. Just remember it's Dtivo only (well you can go a head and test in on a SA/UK - it's just that I don't have one so I can't test those streams). If you get a audio pes size error during the split it's not fatal but I'm very interested to get a sample of your stream. Speaking of samples and streams, I have set up a ftp server where you can upload TyStream (not download this is a upload only server). I have also made a special sample prog which is included in the zip file. It will collect 10 * 10MB samples from the stream. Hence you don't need to upload the whole stream if you want. You can naturally upload the whole stream too but let try to keep the file size under 700MB. Another way to make a small sample is to use dd* - just do "dd if=yourtysteam of=stream_to_send bs=131072 count=30 skip=0" this will sample 30 chunks of the stream starting at chunk zero - just change the count and skip to the right part of the stream you want the sample from. * Windows version avaliable in this zip http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/UnxUpdates.zip The IP for the ftp server is 66.121.15.34, use ftp / email as login and passwd - then change to the upload dir before you send the file. Cheers and thanks in advance Olaf PS: It would be nice if the file name of the file you upload could include some info such as SA/UK/DTIVO, email address, TIVO version it would make things so much easier. ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tydemux.zip Type: application/x-zip Size: 344081 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021111/ceea357c/tydemux.bin ---------------------- multipart/mixed attachment-- From douglass at artships.com Tue Nov 12 06:23:34 2002 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:23:34 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Site update Message-ID: A dearth of shows to transfer to DVD left me time to update the site Merch gave me. http://tivo.30below.com/jdouglass/ now also includes a chart of how much disk-space a few shows came to occupy after encoding. Might be useful when it comes time to decide how to make a long movie fit on one DVD. I also posted a tivoweb bitrate page with both the standard and modified settings, in case you want get your tivo to record at 720x480 resolution. John -- Borrow money from pessimists-they don't expect it back. From RLy at homestead-inc.com Thu Nov 14 19:52:03 2002 From: RLy at homestead-inc.com (Roger Ly) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 11:52:03 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] FW: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems Message-ID: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF88B3F8F@postal.homestead-corp.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Adding to this list as well...=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Roger Ly=20 Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 10:27 AM To: ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems =20 Hey Don, =20 Tried it last night, and it doesn't seem to be working correctly. =20 I tried three things: =20 1. Using my compressed audio file that I had manually set to be the same length as the video stream. I also used the frame rate setting you suggested, and it seemed to have the same syncing problems as before. Frame rate adjusted from 29.97 to 29.71 2. Just extracting the audio, doing WinAmp->Wav conversion and then CoolEdit -> 48KHz conversion. (not compressing the audio length to the exact length of the video stream) Using that audio stream in VirtualDub using the frame rate setting you suggested. It's still off, probably about the same as it was before. At the beginning its fine. After 8 minutes, it is about half a second or so off (audio comes before the video). Frame rate adjusted from 29.97 to 29.73 3. Using besweet, lame and ssrc to convert and 48Khz at the same time. The interesting thing is that it made my audio file a good 100 minutes LONGER than my video. Using WinAmp and CoolEdit only seemed to make it 20 or 30 seconds longer. Also, when I tried to set the frame rate setting as you suggested, the audio offset was completely off. I'm not exactly sure why. (When I say off, I mean a good 40 or 50 seconds off early on... I assume it got much worse as you watched more and more). Frame rate adjusted from 29.97 to 23.21!!!! =20 So they all seem to be off (the first two are pretty similar to my original tests, and the third one was just completely wrong). =20 Let me verify that I changed the correct setting. The frame rate match option should decrease my video frame rate a little if I choose that option, correct? (Assuming, as in my case, the audio is longer than the video). I was kind of hoping it could drop a couple of audio frames and keep the video at 29.97, but oh well... =20 Are there any other suggestions? =20 =20 Thanks, =20 Roger =20 -----Original Message----- From: Don McAllister [mailto:donmc@blueyonder.co.uk]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:58 PM To: ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems =20 Yes, skip it completely. I used to have horrendous sync problems until this option was pointed out to me. Basically you don't have to worry about the lengths, VirtualDub does it automatically for you. =20 It's one of those smack on the forehead type moments when it finally works. =20 I hope it works OK for you. Let us know how you get on. =20 As an aside, I use besweet and lame to convert the audio m2a track. They are command line driven so the following command file does the conversion to wav and 48Khz in one go. I think I downloaded lame separately but just copied it into the besweet directory.: =20 rem Echo off set TivoUtils=3Dd:\Tivoutils set TivoData=3Dd:\TivoData =20 for %%F in (%Tivodata%\*.m2a) do %TivoUtils%\besweet\lame --mp2input -s 32000 --decode "%%F" "%Tivodata%\%%~nF.tmp" =20 for %%F in (%Tivodata%\*.tmp) do %TivoUtils%\besweet\ssrc --rate 48000 --bits 16 --twopass --normalize --dither 1 "%%F" "%Tivodata%\%%~nF.wav" =20 del /F /Q %Tivodata%\ty\*.tmp =20 This will work on windows 2000\XP, probably not on Windows98. =20 =20 =20 Don -----Original Message----- From: Roger Ly [mailto:rly@homestead-inc.com]=20 Sent: 13 November 2002 22:28 To: ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems Hey Don, =20 Should I skip the step I did at the end where I compressed the audio stream to be the same length as the video stream? On a four hour audio stream, it took me three hours to compress, and I'd like to avoid that. =20 Will checking the "Change so video and audio durations match" option work with the two streams at different lengths? =20 Can't wait to get home and try this out tonight! =20 Thanks Don! =20 Roger =20 -----Original Message----- From: Don McAllister [mailto:donmc@blueyonder.co.uk]=20 Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 2:25 PM To: ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems =20 Roger, You're nearly there!! =20 Once you've loaded the audio and video file in VirtualDub select =20 Video=3D>FrameRate =20 Click the radio button "Change so video and audio durations match" =20 You'll now find your audio in perfect sync. =20 Cheers Don =20 -----Original Message----- From: Roger Ly [mailto:rly@homestead-inc.com]=20 Sent: 13 November 2002 21:58 To: ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com Subject: [ExtractStream] audio syncing problems Hey all, =20 I'm sure this question has been beaten to death on this forum, but I can't seem to get a good answer: =20 I've been cutting and editing video extracted from my Tivo, and can't get the audio to stay in sync. The following is an outline of what I've been doing. The end goal is to burn to DVD. =20 Run TivoApp and extract the ty stream to my Win2K box. Use TyConvert to convert to a multiplexed mpg file. Use DVD2AVI to demultiplex. Used WinAmp to convert the m2a file to a wav file. Used CoolEdit2K to convert the wav file to 48KHz Loaded the .d2v file into VFAPIConv for an avi to be used in VirtualDub Loaded the avi and the wav file into VirtualDub. =20 Now, when I play the file in VirtualDub, the video/audio starts in sync. Over time though, the audio and video become out of sync, and the audio starts coming before the video. =20 A couple of things that I noticed. After demuxing with DVD2AVI, the audio stream is actually longer than the video stream. The video stream is 4 hours and 30 minutes and 29 seconds. The audio stream is 4:30:49 (or something similar). =20 =20 I thought this would account for the sync problems, so I used CoolEdit to compress the audio stream to 4:30:29, but I still get the sync problems. =20 Am I missing something obvious here? What's causing the video and audio to start off in sync, but slowly become out of sync over time? =20 Does anyone have any better suggestions on how to do this? =20 I've checked Roger M's Tivo page. I also based my last efforts on http://salfter.dyndns.org/tivo2svcd.shtml. =20 =20 TIA, =20 Roger =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ExtractStream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ExtractStream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.=20 =20 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ExtractStream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! 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URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021114/c0f62d4c/attachment.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk Thu Nov 14 20:29:53 2002 From: Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:29:53 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] No Audio with TivoApp 2.3 Message-ID: <6A4F555CEA3CD5118DBD0002E30AC0911342BF@jabba.cyrus-consultants.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Andrew Hancock *** Signed: 14/11/2002 12:46:54 *** Verified: 14/11/2002 20:29:27 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Tivo Gurus If you could look over this problem it would be great. Tivo UK Model 2.5.5 Video Recorder Quality is set to Basic Don't Save Disk space is set to OFF (CBR - OFF) I've been using TivoApp 1.0 - 2.3.0 successfully for a while, but recently, I've noticed that in the viewer/log window lots of Discarding Audio, Timecode xxxxxxxx, when I'm using Split Audio/Video. The result is that I get no Audio output. I've also tried creating an MPG, this completes with No Audio Track! Any ideas? Andrew *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0 iQA/AwUBPdQHu34+5xAgdJ0XEQJRHwCgmRa82M3RBpKqA9bqZeDPyNZbhtoAn00L eU91Kbnf5yQ6sTPBSqkGrq0y =LHcR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk Thu Nov 14 20:30:20 2002 From: Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:20 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] RE: [ExtractStream] No Audio with TivoApp 2.3 Message-ID: <6A4F555CEA3CD5118DBD0002E30AC0911342C0@jabba.cyrus-consultants.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Andrew Hancock *** Signed: 14/11/2002 13:04:31 *** Verified: 14/11/2002 20:29:54 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** I've done some more homework, and I don't think this is Tivo related problem. If I try two other different PC's with Windows 2000, then TivoApp 2.3 works correctly. ie extracts audio and video correctly, with no discarding audio messages. Any ideas, what software I've installed that is causing this problem? Andrew - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Hancock [mailto:andrew.hancock@cyrus-consultants.co.uk] Sent: 14 November 2002 12:47 To: 'ExtractStream@yahoogroups.com' Subject: [ExtractStream] No Audio with TivoApp 2.3 *** PGP Signature Status: bad *** Signer: Andrew Hancock *** Signed: 14/11/2002 12:46:54 *** Verified: 14/11/2002 13:03:55 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Tivo Gurus If you could look over this problem it would be great. Tivo UK Model 2.5.5 Video Recorder Quality is set to Basic Don't Save Disk space is set to OFF (CBR - OFF) I've been using TivoApp 1.0 - 2.3.0 successfully for a while, but recently, I've noticed that in the viewer/log window lots of Discarding Audio, Timecode xxxxxxxx, when I'm using Split Audio/Video. The result is that I get no Audio output. I've also tried creating an MPG, this completes with No Audio Track! Any ideas? Andrew *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** - ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor - ---------------------~--> Share the magic of Harry Potter with Yahoo! Messenger http://us.click.yahoo.com/4Q_cgB/JmBFAA/46VHAA/CDr1lB/TM - ---------------------------------------------------------------------~ - -> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ExtractStream-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0 iQA/AwUBPdQH2n4+5xAgdJ0XEQKbYACfaYwVaiHBrRjM18BKe/ThmCKL2jAAoP7m OCtnkHzwk4WH/KPzqkOzg6EG =lQQe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk Thu Nov 14 20:30:45 2002 From: Andrew.Hancock at cyrus-consultants.co.uk (Andrew Hancock) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:30:45 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] [ExtractStream] TivoApp 2.3 Extraction Issue Message-ID: <6A4F555CEA3CD5118DBD0002E30AC0911342C1@jabba.cyrus-consultants.co.uk> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *** PGP Signature Status: good *** Signer: Andrew Hancock *** Signed: 14/11/2002 18:10:40 *** Verified: 14/11/2002 20:30:24 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Something I've noticed, I can extract some programs picture perfect from my Tivo using TivoApp 2.3. Spec as below:- UK Tivo 2.5.5 Basic Quality No CBR enabled (Save Disk Space disabled) But on extracting some programs from the same Tivo unit, I get many skipping chunks, vid error messages and the resulting video/audio output is incomplete, and time to convert is very quick. If I enabled "don't skip invalid chunks" the video/audio is extracted correctly, apart from the resulting output has bad/invalid frames. This has been demonstrated and tested this time on multiple PC devices. So this looks like a Tivo config issue!? Andrew *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0 iQA/AwUBPdQH834+5xAgdJ0XEQI4WwCfXzoh7yg9CeEnNFkDePUKpTIuWWoAn3Ho VA9w9XlbdK6HWF9fI4/8Ryjk =5l4V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From mloftis at wgops.com Fri Nov 15 04:23:11 2002 From: mloftis at wgops.com (Michael Loftis) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 20:23:11 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] TivoApp download site? Message-ID: <153714199.1037305391@[10.1.2.77]> OK lost most or all of my bookmarks and can no longer find where to get ahold of TivoApp...I'm about to 're-hack' my TiVo finally (never did after the 3.0 upgrade) so I need to get software in order. From dblack1 at bigpond.net.au Sun Nov 17 02:34:36 2002 From: dblack1 at bigpond.net.au (David Black) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:34:36 +1100 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] tytools 5 problem Message-ID: Just playing around with extraction and getting some weird errors - seem to be related to daylight saving?? Tytool5 is giving me this: SERVER: We got a message! buf = 'SHOWING' syntax error in expression "*60*60" while executing "expr $tz*60*60" (procedure "get_tzoffset" line 34) invoked from within "get_tzoffset $setuptz $daylightsavings" (procedure "init_db" line 32) invoked from within "init_db" (file "./NowShowing.tcl" line 319) I am running a uk 2.5.5 tivo in Australia Any ideas? Thanks David From doug_shea at alumni.ucsd.edu Sun Nov 17 06:44:19 2002 From: doug_shea at alumni.ucsd.edu (Doug Shea) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 00:44:19 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] SA Tivo decoders not working anymore? Message-ID: <3DD73AC3.8080609@alumni.ucsd.edu> Hello. I'm new to this list, so if I'm asking the wrong question in the wrong place, please let me know where to go. Thanks. It seems that my TiVo got a service update this monday, and ever since then, I can't seem to decode any of the .ty files into the audio and video streams. I don't know if the change is in the .ty itself, how it's encoded by the hardware mpeg chip, or how it's getting moved off the tivo; I'm testing it with something that was recorded before the service update now. Have anybody experienced anything like this recently? I can't seem to find any information on this on the web, and this seemed like the most likely place to ask. I'm running a standalone Tivo, 3.0, with a 120GB A drive and an Airnet. Thanks for any info. Doug From bvk at pobox.com Sun Nov 17 19:56:53 2002 From: bvk at pobox.com (Brett Kuehner) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 14:56:53 -0500 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] simplest path to VCD Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20021117144209.0255ee68@pop.osinj.com> The simplest way that I've found to get from the Tivo to a VCD with proper audio sync (although not necessarily the best quality possible) is the following: 1) Extract files from Tivo using jdiner's TyTool (a really excellent app, by the way). Do this in split mode, so you end up with .m2v and .m2a files 2) Mux them into a single .mpg file with TmpgEnc (File/MPEG Tools/Simple Mux). This is pretty quick (a few minutes on my PC, for a half-hour show), and results in an MPG file that can be played fine on the PC, with no sync problems on any shows that I've tried. 3) Process this file with FlasKMPEG, using the "bbMPEG Encoder" as the Output format (Options/Select Output Format), and the "NTSC VCD" profile (Profiles/NTSC VCD), and leaving all other settings as default. This produces a VCD-compliant MPEG file (called, by default, "C:\flaskout"). This takes a bit longer, but is still maybe only 15 minutes for a half-hour show on my Athlon 1800. 4) Rename that file to something.MPG, and then burn to VCD with Nero (or your favorite VCD-burning tool). This seems to work reliably, and to not have any sync problems at all. I tried using just TmpgEnc to do all the work, but it doesn't like to process the muxed files (crashes). I imagine there is a bad MPEG record in them somewhere that messes it up. And if you skip the muxing step, the file TmpgEnc produces has sync problems. The quality of the result could be better, and there are probably options that could be tweaked to improve it, but for now this is good enough for me. I can turn a show on the Tivo into a VCD in around an hour from start to finish, with not too much work on my part, and using only free tools (except for the CD-burning app). TmpgEnc: http://www.tmpgenc.net FlaskMPEG: http://www.flaskmpeg.net/ Brett -- Brett Kuehner bvk@pobox.com From kmassagli at rational.com Tue Nov 19 05:58:32 2002 From: kmassagli at rational.com (Massagli, Kevin) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:58:32 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] TyTool source? Message-ID: <28BA0EED76A4BF46A2F805EB827D2A5702DCE1C3@sus-ca3it25> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Is the source available anywhere? was it written as opensource code? Thanks, K ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021118/93d20ea5/attachment.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From pikus at pikus.net Tue Nov 19 17:05:51 2002 From: pikus at pikus.net (Fedor G. Pikus) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 09:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Extracting tivo recordings on a PC? Message-ID: My apologies to those who receive this mail from both Yahoo and the merlins list. Is it possible to connect Tivo drives to a Linux PC and extract recordings? Here is the situation: my (upgraded) tivo failed because one of the two hard drives is dying. I brought Tivo back to life by restoring the original image onto new hard drive, so I have a nice 280 hours Tivo, but I want my recordings back :) Now, one of the two disks with recordings is ok, and even with the other one, I can get most data out of it. But I cannot boot Tivo with these two disks. So my only chance is to extract the video using my PC. Is there a way to do it? BTW, dd-ing old disks onto new disks does not work, new disks won't boot either. Even doing mfsbackup on old disks to mfsrestore on new disks does not work: the old drive A has errors in sectors which are apparently needed for Tivo to boot up. Thanks, Fedor -- Fedor G. Pikus WWW: http://www.pikus.net/~pikus/ From RLy at homestead-inc.com Tue Nov 19 22:15:35 2002 From: RLy at homestead-inc.com (Roger Ly) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:15:35 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Jittery picture when converting sports event to DVD Message-ID: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF88B3FC9@postal.homestead-corp.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hey all, =20 I was wondering if there was a good resource that I can look into for setting up all the TMPGEnc values when converting my Best Quality Tivo stream to a DVD-burnable format. =20 I have a Phillips SA 312 with 3.0x. I am running TyTools to extract the m2v, m2a from my Tivo. Running the m2v through DVD2AVI, VFAPI, VirtualDub and TMPGEnc to output a 720x480, 3000 CBR, 48Khz mpg stream that I am burning to some DVD-RWs. =20 Viewing the TMPGEnc output stream on my computer seems perfect, but it is only when I am viewing it on my set top that the video gets jerky when things are moving around. (I am archiving some World Series games on DVD, and since it is a live sporting event, things are moving pretty quickly). It seems like, in some cases, the video as it is progressing, sometimes is rendering some frames out of sequence. =20 Let's say a guy is running from left to right. Sometimes, I'll see the guy go to the right in one frame, right again, jump back left, and jump forward two steps back to the right in four consecutive frames (sorry, I don't know how best to describe what I am seeing). It hurts my head to watch this happen, and with the camera panning so often and so quickly, the picture is almost unwatchable at times. =20 Anyways, I wonder if in encoding the picture, that I could tweak the GOP frames a bit so the motion rendering is more realistic. But, I really don't know where to start looking. =20 =20 Has anyone had any experience burning live sporting events filmed at (what I assume to be) 29.97 frames/sec to DVD? =20 =20 I tried encoding under these settings: =20 Tried the following with these three settings: * 2 pass - Max 9Mbps, Min 3Mbps, Avg 6Mbps * CBR - 6 Mbs * CBR - 3 Mbs =20 720x480 NTSC 4:3 Display VBV Buffer: 112 Interlace DC Component precision: 1 bits Motion search precision: highest quality =20 Bottom Field first (field B) Video Arrange method: Full Screen =20 GOP: I frames: 1 P frames: 5 B frames: 2 =20 Haven't changed quantize matrix (not sure how to) =20 =20 I've burnt an image using SpruceUp and burned the image to disc using Prassi Primo DVD. =20 Roger Ly Homestead Technologies, Inc. 650.549.3126 rly@homestead-inc.com =20 =20 Homestead: Your Web Site Company =20 =20 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021119/1a285d2c/attachment.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From enuahs at yahoo.com Thu Nov 21 16:11:11 2002 From: enuahs at yahoo.com (Enuahs) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:11:11 -0500 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 Message-ID: Hello everyone, I was looking for some opinions. I have a Tivo svr-2000 already. I have just setup my home network and was about to start looking into attaching my tivo. I started to think that maybe it would just be easier (not that I have to go with easy, I never do) to by the newer model of Tivo and sell mine. Are there any real benefits to going with the new model? What are the pros/cons of switching? I read some where that the SVR-2000 was a better model is that true? Well thanks for your opinions Enuahs From douglass at artships.com Thu Nov 21 17:43:53 2002 From: douglass at artships.com (douglass@artships.com) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:43:53 -0600 (CST) Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 Message-ID: <200211211743.gALHhrF26841@zathras.lmtas.lmco.com> Enuahs wrote: > I was looking for some opinions. I have a Tivo svr-2000 already. I > have just setup my home network and was about to start looking into > attaching my tivo. I started to think that maybe it would just be > easier (not that I have to go with easy, I never do) to by the newer > model of Tivo and sell mine. Sell your old one and buy a new one. If you keep the old one you'll end-up: Buying and installing a Turbonet card; Pulling the drive and install many hacks like Tytool and Tivoweb; Spending hours authoring DVD's from shows extracted from your tivo; Spending many more hours learning how to do extraction, transcoding, and authoring; Researhing and buying a DVD player to play your new DVD's. Go with the SVR-3000. It's too late for us. Save yourself! John, Who wants you to know that the SVR-2000 is hackable and the SVR-3000 is not, and that THAT is the main difference. From sky at ogn.org Thu Nov 21 19:20:00 2002 From: sky at ogn.org (Sky Schulz) Date: 21 Nov 2002 11:20:00 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 [Mail-Audit: List] In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1037906401.25538.1221.camel@yoshi.playstation.sony.com> Hi Enuahs, While the SVR-3000 is a physically better machine (more RAM, faster CPU), it is still a Series 2 inside, which means, to-date, it is not hackable (ie. no copy of recordings over the network, no TivoWeb, no telnet, etc, etc). Yes, you can get a USB ethernet adapter and have it fetch guide data over your DSL/Cable connection, but, that's about it. I plan on keeping my SVR-2000 and wish I had 2 more. I don't plan on purchasing another PVR until I can do what I will with the media w/o corporate interference. -- sky On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 08:11, Enuahs wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was looking for some opinions. I have a Tivo svr-2000 already. I > have just setup my home network and was about to start looking into > attaching my tivo. I started to think that maybe it would just be > easier (not that I have to go with easy, I never do) to by the newer > model of Tivo and sell mine. > Are there any real benefits to going with the new model? > What are the pros/cons of switching? > I read some where that the SVR-2000 was a better model is that true? > > Well thanks for your opinions > Enuahs > > _______________________________________________ > Extractstream mailing list > Extractstream@lists.merlins.org > http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream > From kmassagli at rational.com Thu Nov 21 19:32:31 2002 From: kmassagli at rational.com (Massagli, Kevin) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:32:31 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 [Mail-Audit: List] Message-ID: <28BA0EED76A4BF46A2F805EB827D2A5702DCE1CF@sus-ca3it25> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment So a SVR2000 is a series1 Tivo I take it? (I have neither 2000 or 3000) I have a DirecTivo series1, currently LAN enables, but its slow, especially with a Telnet session going, and/or downloading programs. Is there any faster alternative that is hackable? Thanks, K -----Original Message----- From: Sky Schulz [mailto:sky@ogn.org] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 11:20 AM To: extractstream@lists.merlins.org Subject: Re: [Extractstream [MM]] SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 [Mail-Audit: List] Hi Enuahs, While the SVR-3000 is a physically better machine (more RAM, faster CPU), it is still a Series 2 inside, which means, to-date, it is not hackable (ie. no copy of recordings over the network, no TivoWeb, no telnet, etc, etc). Yes, you can get a USB ethernet adapter and have it fetch guide data over your DSL/Cable connection, but, that's about it. I plan on keeping my SVR-2000 and wish I had 2 more. I don't plan on purchasing another PVR until I can do what I will with the media w/o corporate interference. -- sky On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 08:11, Enuahs wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I was looking for some opinions. I have a Tivo svr-2000 already. I > have just setup my home network and was about to start looking into > attaching my tivo. I started to think that maybe it would just be > easier (not that I have to go with easy, I never do) to by the newer > model of Tivo and sell mine. > Are there any real benefits to going with the new model? > What are the pros/cons of switching? > I read some where that the SVR-2000 was a better model is that true? > > Well thanks for your opinions > Enuahs > > _______________________________________________ > Extractstream mailing list > Extractstream@lists.merlins.org > http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream > _______________________________________________ Extractstream mailing list Extractstream@lists.merlins.org http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021121/13b3ef26/attachment.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From enuahs at yahoo.com Thu Nov 21 19:59:03 2002 From: enuahs at yahoo.com (Enuahs) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 11:59:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] SVR-2000 vs SVR-3000 [Mail-Audit: List] In-Reply-To: <1037906401.25538.1221.camel@yoshi.playstation.sony.com> Message-ID: <20021121195903.17211.qmail@web40104.mail.yahoo.com> Thank you, I will definatly be keeping my SVR-2000 then. The whole idea was that I now have the time to hack it. And that is why I wanted it on my network in the first place. I am sure I will have a lot more question when I get to the point of extracting video, but for now I need to set everything up to get there :) Have a good one. Enuahs --- Sky Schulz wrote: > Hi Enuahs, > > While the SVR-3000 is a physically better machine > (more RAM, faster > CPU), it is still a Series 2 inside, which means, > to-date, it is not > hackable (ie. no copy of recordings over the > network, no TivoWeb, no > telnet, etc, etc). Yes, you can get a USB ethernet > adapter and have it > fetch guide data over your DSL/Cable connection, > but, that's about it. > > I plan on keeping my SVR-2000 and wish I had 2 more. > I don't plan on > purchasing another PVR until I can do what I will > with the media w/o > corporate interference. > > -- sky > > On Thu, 2002-11-21 at 08:11, Enuahs wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > > > I was looking for some opinions. I have a Tivo > svr-2000 already. I > > have just setup my home network and was about to > start looking into > > attaching my tivo. I started to think that maybe > it would just be > > easier (not that I have to go with easy, I never > do) to by the newer > > model of Tivo and sell mine. > > Are there any real benefits to going with the new > model? > > What are the pros/cons of switching? > > I read some where that the SVR-2000 was a better > model is that true? > > > > Well thanks for your opinions > > Enuahs > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Extractstream mailing list > > Extractstream@lists.merlins.org > > > http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Extractstream mailing list > Extractstream@lists.merlins.org > http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus – Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From kmassagli at rational.com Sat Nov 23 00:15:48 2002 From: kmassagli at rational.com (Massagli, Kevin) Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:15:48 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] TyTool5: Error. We did not find an embedded audio header! Message-ID: <28BA0EED76A4BF46A2F805EB827D2A5702DCE1E4@sus-ca3it25> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment When I try to split the TY stream into m2a and m2v, I get many, many "Error. We did not find an embedded audio header! " In the TyTool GUI output window. Then my m2a file results in zero length, and my video file crashes my muxer when I merge the 0 length m2a and the m2v into a mpg2. Any way to salvage this recording? ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20021122/0eaa05e9/attachment.html ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment-- From faye at clara.net Mon Nov 25 14:49:05 2002 From: faye at clara.net (Faye Pearson) Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 14:49:05 +0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] TyTool5: Error. We did not find an embedded audio header! In-Reply-To: <28BA0EED76A4BF46A2F805EB827D2A5702DCE1E4@sus-ca3it25> References: <28BA0EED76A4BF46A2F805EB827D2A5702DCE1E4@sus-ca3it25> Message-ID: <20021125144905.GC19731@clara.net> Massagli, Kevin [kmassagli@rational.com] wrote: > When I try to split the TY stream into m2a and m2v, I get many, many "Error. > We did not find an embedded audio header! " > In the TyTool GUI output window. Then my m2a file results in zero length, > and my video file crashes my muxer when I merge the 0 length m2a and the m2v > into a mpg2. > > Any way to salvage this recording? Is it a DirecTiVo and an AC3 soundtrack? Faye -- Faye Pearson, Covert Development ClaraNET Ltd. Tel 020 7903 3000 When in doubt, lead trump. From u2cjfs0fp02 at sneakemail.com Tue Nov 26 03:59:54 2002 From: u2cjfs0fp02 at sneakemail.com (u2cjfs0fp02@sneakemail.com) Date: 26 Nov 2002 03:59:54 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] video stops half way thru my mpeg Message-ID: <4104-69816@sneakemail.com> i used tmpegc to encode my audio video streams. i got the streams using tivoapp. now every mpeg i encode the video stops about 20 mins into it. the sound continues however till the end. when i just mux my audio video files it works perfictly but when i encode them to another format such as vcd or custom it does this. From douglass at artships.com Thu Nov 28 14:46:40 2002 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 08:46:40 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: video stops half way thru my mpeg In-Reply-To: <4104-69816@sneakemail.com> References: <4104-69816@sneakemail.com> Message-ID: On 26 Nov 2002 03:59:54 -0000, you wrote: >i used tmpegc to encode my audio video streams. i got the streams using = tivoapp. now every mpeg i >encode the video stops about 20 mins into it. = the sound continues however till the end. when i just mux >my audio video= files it works perfictly but when i encode them to another format such = as vcd or custom it >does this. Try using tytool to extract, either directly into m2v and m2a files, or into a tystream that you then feed to vsplit13. Do you follow the process at http://tivo.30below.com/jdouglass/, including using DVD2AVI and the TMPGEnc setup? 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