From RLy at homestead-inc.com Fri Jan 3 07:05:37 2003 From: RLy at homestead-inc.com (Roger Ly) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:05:37 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Tivo->DVD rip at 720x480 Message-ID: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F55E6@postal.homestead-corp.com> SGV5IGFsbCwNCiANClNvLCBhZnRlciBwZXJ1c2luZyB0aGUgdmFyaW91cyBib2FyZHMgb3V0IHRo ZXJlLCBhbmQgdGVzdGluZyBhIGxpdHRsZSBvbiBteSBtYWNoaW5lLCBJIGRlY2lkZWQgdG8gY2hh bmdlIG15IHJlY29yZGluZyBzZXR0aW5ncyBvbiBteSBUaXZvIHRvIDcyMHg0ODAgZm9yIGVhc2ll ciBkdW1waW5nIHRvIERWRC4NCiANClNpbmNlIHRoZSByZXNvbHV0aW9uIGlzIGF0IERWRCBhY2Nl cHRhYmxlIHJhbmdlcywgSSBhc3N1bWUgSSB3b3VsZG4ndCBuZWVkIHRvIHJlLWVuY29kZSBteSB2 aWRlbyBzdHJlYW1zLCByaWdodD8gIEkgd291bGQgaW1hZ2luZSB0aGF0IEkgc3RpbGwgbmVlZCB0 byBjaGFuZ2UgbXkgYXVkaW8gZnJvIDMya2h6IHRvIDQ4a2h6IHRob3VnaC4uLg0KDQpBbnl3YXlz LCBJIHN0aWxsIG5lZWQgdG8gZWRpdCBvdXQgdGhlIGNvbW1lcmNpYWxzIGZyb20gbXkgdmlkZW8s IGJ1dCBJIGhhdmUgYmVlbiBkb2luZyBzbyB0aHJvdWdoIFZpcnR1YWxEdWIsIHdoaWNoIGZyYW1l c2VydmVkIHRvIFRNUEdFbmMuICBEb2luZyB0aGUgc2FtZSBub3cgd291bGQgcmVxdWlyZSB0aGF0 IEkgcGlwZSB0aGUgdmlkZW8gdGhyb3VnaCBhbiBlbmNvZGVyIGFnYWluLCB3aGljaCBJIGRvbid0 IHdhbnQgdG8gZG8uDQogDQpJcyB0aGVyZSBhIGdvb2Qgd2F5IHRvIGVkaXQgYSAoZGUpbXVsdGlw bGV4ZWQgdmlkZW8gYW5kIGRyb3AgdGhlIGNvbW1lcmNpYWxzPyAgSSBrZWVwIGhlYXJpbmcgYmFk IHRoaW5ncyBhYm91dCB0aGUgVE1QR0VuYy0+TVBFRyBUb29scy0+TWVyZ2UgYW5kIEN1dCBhbmQg aG93IGl0IGlzIGRpZmZpY3VsdCB0byBwcm9wZXJseSBjdXQgTVBFRyBmcmFtZXMgb24gdGhlIGNv cnJlY3QgYm91bmRhcmllcywgZXRjLiAgDQogDQpJZiB0aGVyZSBpc24ndCBhbnkgd2F5IGZvciBt ZSB0byBkbyB0aGlzIHcvb3V0IHRoZSByZS1lbmNvZGUsIEkgbWF5IGFzIHdlbGwgZ28gYmFjayB0 byB0aGUgcmVndWxhciBUaXZvIHNldHRpbmdzLCBzaW5jZSBJIGFtIHNlZWluZyBhIGxpdHRsZSBt b3JlIHBpeGVsYXRpb24gd2hlbiB3YXRjaGluZyBmYXN0IG1vdmluZyBzaG93cyAobGlrZSBiYXNr ZXRiYWxsLCBldGMuKSBvbiBMaXZlVFYuDQogDQpUaGFua3MsDQogDQpSb2dlcg0K From douglass at artships.com Fri Jan 3 14:27:31 2003 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 08:27:31 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: Tivo->DVD rip at 720x480 In-Reply-To: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F55E6@postal.homestead-corp.com> References: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F55E6@postal.homestead-corp.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 23:05:37 -0800, wrote: >So, after perusing the various boards out there, and testing a little on= my machine, I decided to=20 >change my recording settings on my Tivo to 720x480 for easier dumping to= DVD. >=20 >Since the resolution is at DVD acceptable ranges, I assume I wouldn't = need to re-encode my video=20 >streams, right? I would imagine that I still need to change my audio = fro 32khz to 48khz though... Yup. >Anyways, I still need to edit out the commercials from my video, but I = have been doing so through=20 >VirtualDub, which frameserved to TMPGEnc. Doing the same now would = require that I pipe the=20 >video through an encoder again, which I don't want to do. Yup. Too bad we can't frameserve to TMPGEnc's Merge&Cut MPEG Tool. =20 >Is there a good way to edit a (de)multiplexed video and drop the = commercials? I keep hearing bad=20 >things about the TMPGEnc->MPEG Tools->Merge and Cut and how it is = difficult to properly cut=20 >MPEG frames on the correct boundaries, etc. =20 The correct boundary, I think, is an I frame. When using VirtualDub and pressing the "Next I Frame" button I find that there are I frames pretty much everywhere. Maybe, find the exact frame you want to cut in VirtualDub, write-down the time, and adjust TMPGEnc's Merge&Cut to that exact time? >If there isn't any way for me to do this w/out the re-encode, I may as = well go back to the regular=20 >Tivo settings, since I am seeing a little more pixelation when watching = fast moving shows (like=20 >basketball, etc.) on LiveTV. You're getting pixelization? Which settings did you change? The ones listed at http://tivo.30below.com/jdouglass/website_bitrates.html ?=20 From RLy at homestead-inc.com Fri Jan 3 18:43:49 2003 From: RLy at homestead-inc.com (Roger Ly) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 10:43:49 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: Tivo->DVD rip at 720x480 Message-ID: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF88B415D@postal.homestead-corp.com> John, >The correct boundary, I think, is an I frame. When using VirtualDub >and pressing the "Next I Frame" button I find that there are I frames >pretty much everywhere. Maybe, find the exact frame you want to cut >in VirtualDub, write-down the time, and adjust TMPGEnc's Merge&Cut to >that exact time? I was thinking about doing that, but I have one more long encode (T-minus 10 hours) before I can start tinkering with a new video. I'll let you know what I find out. >You're getting pixelization? Which settings did you change? The ones >listed at http://tivo.30below.com/jdouglass/website_bitrates.html ?=20 Very similar settings to yours. But with very fast moving, busy pictures (like people running up and down the court), I get some pixilation. When people are set up in their half-court offense (not much movement) things look fine. Roger From jotters at bellsouth.net Fri Jan 3 21:57:42 2003 From: jotters at bellsouth.net (Jeff Otterson) Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 16:57:42 -0500 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] how to edit Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030103165515.00a6c020@mail.bellsouth.net> This is not really an extractstream question, but it is related. I want to edit the ends off of a TiVo-sourced MPG file that has Dolby Digital (AC3) audio. The Tsunami encoder can edit it with Merge & Cut, but the resulting file has no audio. Can anybody offer suggestions of how to edit these leaving the AC3 stream intact? Thanks! Jeff From scott at alfter.us Fri Jan 3 23:35:10 2003 From: scott at alfter.us (Scott Alfter) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:35:10 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: Avisynth (was: Using LSX to encode DVD) In-Reply-To: <2ac31vcfbkj5i9krm0aapmgtlnvjmv2lis@4ax.com> References: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F55E0@postal.homestead-corp.com> <20021231090346.GA11594@alfter.us> <2ac31vcfbkj5i9krm0aapmgtlnvjmv2lis@4ax.com> Message-ID: <20030103233510.GA1609@alfter.us> On Tue, Dec 31, 2002 at 10:56:22AM -0600, John Douglass wrote: > (Scott: Please note that you should be replying to > extractstream@lists.merlins.org instead of me directly so that > everybody gets to hear you. Just verify the "To:" field before you > send.) Grr...I didn't notice that the list doesn't include a Reply-To field in the header. > On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 01:03:46 -0800, Scott Alfter > wrote: > > >On Mon, Dec 30, 2002 at 03:53:10PM -0600, John Douglass wrote: > >> Um, care to share your Avisynth script? I was just starting to get > >> into avisynth before I re-installed WinXP. > > > >Once you've split foo.ty into foo.m2v and foo.m2a, run foo.m2v through > >DVD2AVI to produce foo.d2v, and run foo.m2a through LAME to produce foo.wav, > > Um, why? TMPGEnc will also run it through LAME during the transcode. > (Why may become apparent in a moment.) Last time I checked, TMPGEnc doesn't use LAME...mainly because LAME doesn't do Layer 2 encoding. LAME will do Layer 2 decoding, though, which is what I want so that I can resample and normalize the audio with sox. (TMPGEnc will resample, but it doesn't normalize...and I suspect that sox does a better job of resampling, but I don't have any proof of that assertion at this point.) > >something like this will load the files together: (needs mpeg2dec.dll) > > You mean the version of mpeg2dec that goes with one's version of > Avisynth, right? I went to avisynth.org and got version 2.07. I got > a version of MPEG2DEC.dll, extracted to C:\Avisynth2\plugins, put in > my script: > LoadPlugin("c:\program files\avisynth2\plugins\MPEG2DEC.dll") I don't think there's such a DLL in the Avisynth download, but there are several different MPEG-2 plugins kicking around. There's even one that reads video streams directly (so you don't have to preprocess the file with DVD2AVI), but I've found that it doesn't work as well. Current versions of Avisynth (the ones that are built as Nullsoft installers) create a directory into which you can dump all of your plugins. With this feature, you don't need LoadPlugin (which saves you a few seconds every time you put a script together :-) ). > >AudioDub(MPEG2Source("foo.d2v"),WAVSource("foo.wav")) > > This associates a frameserved video (through DVD2AVI) with a synched > audio that has been converted to 48KHz (for DVD) or 44KHz (for SVCD), > right? Correct. It doesn't actually care what sample rate the audio file uses...there's a ResampleAudio filter in Avisynth that lets you change this, but I've usually resampled the audio by this point already. > >Get the inverse telecine filter (another DLL) and you can apply that to > >shows that were originally filmed: > >InverseTelecine(40,10,15) > > I'm... An unbeliever, here, as I don't see every fourth frame being a > copy of another frame. It's not that simple. When video is telecined, one field from every other frame is duplicated. Two of the five output frames contain one field from each of two input frames. This URL describes how film is telecined: http://www.geocities.com/ksong1222/telecine.htm It follows with a page that describes what's involved in doing inverse telecine. > >To do non-linear editing, start by loading what you have so far into > >VirtualDub (so you can find your cutpoints). Create your cuts like this > >(the frame numbers are examples): > > >c1=Trim(100,200) > > "c1 is that portion of foo.m2v (frameserved as foo.d2v) that has been > muxed with foo.wav between frame 99 and 199 (as the first frame is > numbered 0, not 1)", right? c1 is a label, to which I assign a cut. I could've called it something else, but I'm lazy...I normally use just a letter and a digit. > >c2=Trim(300,400) > >c3=Trim(500,600) > >etc. > > > >Combine them together with UnalignedSplice: > > > >UnalignedSplice(c1,c2,c3) > > (Functions that don't appear to yield a value to a variable instead > assign a value to the builtin, understood variable, "last".) You can assign anything to a label. All Avisynth functions can take a label as their first parameter. If you leave out the label, the output of the previous function is assumed to be the input of the current function. You can nest functions, but using one function per line is more readable. > >> >Ouch. With settings similar to the OP, I can encode the typical "1-hour" > >> >show (sans ads) in somewhere around 3 hours. > > Are you saying that, now that I have foo.avs loaded in TMPGEnc, and > although the picture in TMPGEnc looks to be 720x480, I still need to > push the TMPGEnc "Start" button to transcode the show to 720x480 and > save it to an mpg file? And that by letting avisynth do all this > editing and resizing TMPGEnc has little else to do, so the time > TMPGEnc runs is reduced by half? This I gotta try! I'm not sure if doing the editing/processing in Avisynth will necessarily cut your encoding time. I suspect that Avisynth is more efficient at editing and processing than TMPGEnc, though, given that Avisynth's job is to edit and process video and audio and TMPGEnc's primary job is to encode video. Avisynth is also much more flexible WRT the kinds of things you can do with it. (For instance, I created a script at work that superimposes two video clips onto a static background. That took a while to figure out, but it's pretty slick.) > >> You have this on your website? > > >IIRC, the TMPGEnc settings on my TiVo-to-SVCD page are the ones I'm > >currently using. > >http://salfter.dyndns.org > > Yeahbut, your website talks about a whole lot of VirtualDub stuff > that, with avisynth, just ain't necessary, right? My website (well, my TiVo-to-SVCD page, anyway) needs an update. :-) _/_ Scott Alfter / v \ salfter@salfter.dyndns.org (IIGS( http://salfter.dyndns.org Top-posting! \_^_/ pkill -9 /bin/laden >What is the most annoying thing on Usenet? From douglass at artships.com Sat Jan 4 09:03:13 2003 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 03:03:13 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Re: Avisynth (was: Using LSX to encode DVD) In-Reply-To: <20030103233510.GA1609@alfter.us> References: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F55E0@postal.homestead-corp.com> <20021231090346.GA11594@alfter.us> <2ac31vcfbkj5i9krm0aapmgtlnvjmv2lis@4ax.com> <20030103233510.GA1609@alfter.us> Message-ID: <4f7d1vcmakioo0jcfh631a09fnl7791d22@4ax.com> On Fri, 3 Jan 2003 15:35:10 -0800, scott@alfter.us wrote: >> Um, why? TMPGEnc will also run it through LAME during the transcode. >> (Why may become apparent in a moment.) > >Last time I checked, TMPGEnc doesn't use LAME... My mistake. It optionally uses tooLAME as the "MPEG-1 Audio Layer II encoder", and ssrc as the "Sampling frequency convertor.". >> >Get the inverse telecine filter (another DLL) and you can apply that = to >> >shows that were originally filmed: >> >InverseTelecine(40,10,15) >>=20 >> I'm... An unbeliever, here, as I don't see every fourth frame being a >> copy of another frame. > >It's not that simple. When video is telecined, one field from every = other >frame is duplicated. Two of the five output frames contain one field = from >each of two input frames. This URL describes how film is telecined: > >http://www.geocities.com/ksong1222/telecine.htm > >It follows with a page that describes what's involved in doing inverse >telecine. I'll take a look. Thanks. >> >> >Ouch. With settings similar to the OP, I can encode the typical = "1-hour" >> >> >show (sans ads) in somewhere around 3 hours. Still unbelievable, though the thought still makes me drool. It took me 900 minutes to transcode 90 minutes of show on my 850MHz Athlon. >I'm not sure if doing the editing/processing in Avisynth will = necessarily >cut your encoding time. I tried it. It didn't make it shorter, which was not a surprise. It did, however, let me skip the Merge&Cut step to join all the non-advert parts of a Firefly episode. But... Well, I'll get to that later. Anyway, I was surprised to see the display in TMPGEnc in 720x480. It made me think it was a shame I had to have TMPGEnc "transcode" when Avisynth appeared fully able to deliver an already reformated video. > I suspect that Avisynth is more efficient at >editing and processing than TMPGEnc, though, given that Avisynth's job = is to >edit and process video and audio and TMPGEnc's primary job is to encode >video. Personally, I like seeing the audio beneath the picture, so I think I'll stick with editing with TMPGEnc. Especially as, when I used Avisynth to frameserve to TMPGEnc, the audio was hosed - Everything was vibrato; All the dialogue and music sounded like it was delivered by machine-gun. It was a disappointing show-stopper for me. Oh, and I used a wav file for the audio created by winamp from the m2a file. > Avisynth is also much more flexible WRT the kinds of things you can >do with it. (For instance, I created a script at work that superimposes= two >video clips onto a static background. That took a while to figure out, = but >it's pretty slick.) And you had no sound issues? Interesting. Otherwise, yes, I agree, Avisynth is one heck of a cool tool. >My website (well, my TiVo-to-SVCD page, anyway) needs an update. :-) You're so unique in that regard. :-) John From yungee at cix.co.uk Sat Jan 4 11:11:56 2003 From: yungee at cix.co.uk (Andy Young) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 11:11:56 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Good Quality 32Khz > 44.1Khz Resampling? Message-ID: <001601c2b3e2$17d5e5f0$0200a8c0@athlon> Hi all. I'm new to this list, but fairly competent in the world of computer video. I have hacked my Tivo to produce video at 480*576 and 2.5Mbps, ready for SVCD with no re-encoding, and am taking it off the TiVo using the excellent Tytool5 (If you read this list ... top work jdiner!) My problem lies in resampling the audio from 32Khz to 44.1Khz. The quality leaves something to be desired (I get a sort of tapping / clicking sound in the audio). I'm not sure if this is an artefact to do with the MP2 > MP2 re-encoding that I will have to live with, or whether it is fixable. I am using BeSweet and various tools it supports with the following command line: BeSweet.exe -core( -input i:\TiVo\audio.mp2 -output i:\TiVo\audio-new.MP2 -logfile besweet.log" ) -azid( -s stereo ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 --twopass ) -2lame( -m s -b 192 -e ) I have tried: Giving Toolame extra bandwidth up as high as 384kpbs in case that made a difference. Taking out all of the Azid processing options. SSRC type 3 dither. SSRC 24 bit quantising. None of these seem to make a lot of difference. Any advice on what people use to upsample their audio would be greatly appreciated. Andy. From yungee at cix.co.uk Sat Jan 4 18:16:09 2003 From: yungee at cix.co.uk (Andy Young) Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 18:16:09 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Good Quality 32Khz > 44.1Khz Resampling? Message-ID: <000001c2b41d$5b44ec10$0200a8c0@athlon> Sorry to reply to my own question, but I think this is a bug in the BeSweet data pipe. It's perhaps not feeding the output from the MP2 decoder quickly enough into the Shibatch resampler. Answer found on the Doom9 forum: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=ff9a7750fe4f3ccb51deab56d2626a20 &threadid=42018 If I split the resample into two stages, MP2 > WAV first, then resample and re-encode to MP2, everything works fine. besweet -core( -input "%1.mp2" -output "%1.wav" -2ch ) besweet -core( -input "%1.wav" -output "%1-new.mp2" -2ch ) -ssrc( --rate 44100 ) -2lame( -s 44100 -m s -b 192 ) Andy. From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Fri Jan 10 23:04:11 2003 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:04:11 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Playitsam version 2 now available Message-ID: <200301102304.h0AN4Bf79068@minnie.tuhs.org> I've finally made Playitsam version 2 available publicly. If you want to edit/extract TiVo streams and you have a Linux or FreeBSD box, then this tool might be for you: http://minnie.tuhs.org/Programs/Playitsam/ From steve at lemkeville.org Fri Jan 10 23:18:54 2003 From: steve at lemkeville.org (Steve Lemke) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 15:18:54 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Playitsam version 2 for Mac OS X??? In-Reply-To: <200301102304.h0AN4Bf79068@minnie.tuhs.org> Message-ID: <5.2.0.3.2.20030110151804.031cdd70@imap.lemkeville.org> This looks pretty cool! Anyone have any idea if it might work on Mac OS X? --Steve At 03:04 PM 1/10/2003, Warren Toomey wrote: >I've finally made Playitsam version 2 available publicly. If you want to >edit/extract TiVo streams and you have a Linux or FreeBSD box, then this >tool might be for you: > > http://minnie.tuhs.org/Programs/Playitsam/ From wkt at minnie.tuhs.org Fri Jan 10 23:39:22 2003 From: wkt at minnie.tuhs.org (Warren Toomey) Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2003 09:39:22 +1000 (EST) Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Playitsam version 2 for Mac OS X??? In-Reply-To: <5.2.0.3.2.20030110151804.031cdd70@imap.lemkeville.org> from Steve Lemke at "Jan 10, 2003 03:18:54 pm" Message-ID: <200301102339.h0ANdNM79429@minnie.tuhs.org> In article by Steve Lemke: > This looks pretty cool! Anyone have any idea if it might work on Mac OS X? > --Steve If you can get mpeg2dec and mpg123 to run, then the command-line version will run. If you can get GTK 1.2 to install, then the GTK version should also work. Cheers, Warren From paul at paul-tp.com Mon Jan 13 22:46:30 2003 From: paul at paul-tp.com (Paul Browne) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:46:30 -0000 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Tivo -> MPEG Guide Message-ID: <001301c2bb55$9d91af60$0201a8c0@zeddy> I have put a small guide together, trying to do a step by step document, on how to get from the Tivo into an 'in sync' MPEG file, that can be used to create DVD`s VCD`s SVCD`s etc I have tried to cover all the section, including advert removal, and frameserving Have look and tell me what you think, http://www.paul-tp.com/tivo/guide.html Cheers Paul_tp -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.merlins.org/archives/extractstream/attachments/20030113/9d68f28e/attachment.html From mloftis at wgops.com Tue Jan 14 03:33:24 2003 From: mloftis at wgops.com (Michael Loftis) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 19:33:24 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Good Quality 32Khz > 44.1Khz Resampling? In-Reply-To: <000001c2b41d$5b44ec10$0200a8c0@athlon> References: <000001c2b41d$5b44ec10$0200a8c0@athlon> Message-ID: <151045111.1042486404@[10.1.2.77]> Most likely yes that is the problem. Upsampling doesn't make the audio quality any better anyway (especially since you decompress/recompress). --On Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:16 PM +0000 Andy Young wrote: > Sorry to reply to my own question, but I think this is a bug in the > BeSweet data pipe. It's perhaps not feeding the output from the MP2 > decoder quickly enough into the Shibatch resampler. > > Answer found on the Doom9 forum: > http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=ff9a7750fe4f3ccb51deab56d2626a20 > &threadid=42018 > > If I split the resample into two stages, MP2 > WAV first, then resample > and re-encode to MP2, everything works fine. > > besweet -core( -input "%1.mp2" -output "%1.wav" -2ch ) > besweet -core( -input "%1.wav" -output "%1-new.mp2" -2ch ) -ssrc( --rate > 44100 ) -2lame( -s 44100 -m s -b 192 ) > > Andy. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Extractstream mailing list > Extractstream@lists.merlins.org > http://lists.merlins.org/lists/listinfo/extractstream From RLy at homestead-inc.com Sat Jan 25 20:11:18 2003 From: RLy at homestead-inc.com (Roger Ly) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:11:18 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Burning Tivo feed to DVD without encode Message-ID: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F560E@postal.homestead-corp.com> SGV5IGFsbCwNCiANCkkndmUgdXBkYXRlZCBteSBzZXR0aW5ncyBvbiBteSBUaXZvIHRvIHJlY29y ZCBhdCA3MjB4NDgwIGF0IDU4MDBrYnBzIENCUi4gIEkgcHVsbCB0aGUgdmlkZW8vYXVkaW8gdG8g bXkgbWFjaGluZSB1c2luZyBUeVRvb2wuICBDb252ZXJ0ZWQgdGhlIGF1ZGlvIHRvIDIyNGtwYnMs IDQ4a0h6LiAgTXVsdGlwbGV4IHRoZSB2aWRlby9hdWRpbyB3LyBUTVBHRW5jIHRvIG1ha2UgYSB2 YWxpZCBEVkQgTVBFRy0yIHN0cmVhbS4gIEFuZCB0aGVuIEkgb3B0aW9uYWxseSB1c2UgVE1QR0Vu YydzIE1lcmdlICYgQ3V0IHRvb2wgdG8gZWRpdCBvdXQgdGhlIGNvbW1lcmNpYWxzLg0KIA0KU28g ZmFyLCBzbyBnb29kLg0KIA0KVGhlIHByb2JsZW0gSSBoYXZlIGlzIHdoZW4gSSBicmluZyB0aGUg bmV3IHN0cmVhbSBpbnRvIFVsZWFkIERWRCBXb3Jrc2hvcCB0byBjcmVhdGUgbXkgZmluYWwgRFZE LiAgV2hlbiBpdCBzdGFydCB0byBidXJuIHRoZSBpbWFnZSwgYW5kIGl0IHByZXBhcmVzIGFsbCBp dHMgYXNzZXRzLCBpdCBnb2VzIHRocm91Z2ggYSBmZXcgc3RlcHM6DQoqIHJlLWVuY29kaW5nIHZp ZGVvIChpZiBuZWNlc3NhcnkpDQoqIHJlLWVuY29kaW5nIGF1ZGlvIChpZiBuZWNlc3NhcnkpDQoq IHJlbmRlcmluZyBtZW51cw0KKiBtdWx0aXBsZXhpbmcgdGhlIGF1ZGlvL3ZpZGVvDQoqIGNyZWF0 aW5nIHRoZSBpbWFnZS4NCiANCk5vdywgaW4gbXkgY2FzZSwgSSBhbSBidXJuaW5nIGF0IDU4MDBr YnBzLzIyNGticHMgc28gbm8gcmUtZW5jb2RpbmcgaXMgbmVjZXNzYXJ5LiAgRFZEIFdvcmtzaG9w IGNvbXBsaWVzIGJ5IHNraXBwaW5nIHRob3NlIHBoYXNlcy4gSG93ZXZlciwgd2hlbiBpdCB0cmll cyB0byByZS1tdWx0aXBsZXggdGhlIHRoZSBzdHJlYW1zLCBpdCBqdXN0IGNyYXNoZXMgb24gbWUu ICBOb3csIGluIHRoZSBwYXN0LCBiZWZvcmUgSSBzdGFydGVkIHJlY29yZGluZyBhdCA3MjB4NDgw LCBhbmQgcmVtYWluZWQgYXQgVGl2bydzIGRlZmF1bHRzLCBJIHdvdWxkIHJlZW5jb2RlIHRoZSB2 aWRlbyBEVkQtY29tcGxpYW50LCA1ODAwa2JwcyAob3Igc2ltaWxhciksIGFuZCB1c2luZyBEVkQg RmFjdG9yeSB3b3JrZWQgZmluZS4NCiANClRoZSBpbnRlcmVzdGluZyB0aGluZyBpcyB0aGF0IGlu IG15IGN1cnJlbnQgc2V0dXAsIGlmIEkgbWFrZSBEVkQgRmFjdG9yeSByZS1lbmNvZGUgdGhlIHZp ZGVvIHN0cmVhbSB0byA1NjUwa2JwcywgaXQgZG9lcyB0aGUgcmUtZW5jb2RlLCBhbmQgdGhlbiBp dCBidXJucyBmaW5lLg0KIA0KU28sIEkgd29uZGVyIGlmIHRoZXJlIGFyZSB0d28gdGhpbmdzIGF0 IHdvcms6DQoxLiBUaGUgdmlkZW8gc3RyZWFtIHRoYXQgSSBncmFiYmVkIGZyb20gVHlUb29sIGlz bid0IHRvdGFsbHkgdmFsaWQsIGFuZCBEVkQgRmFjdG9yeSBpcyBqdXN0IHB1a2luZyB3aGVuIHRy eWluZyB0byBidXJuIGl0IGFzLWlzLg0KMi4gVGhlIHZpZGVvIHN0cmVhbSBpc24ndCBleGFjdGx5 IGF0IDU4MDBrYnBzLCBhbmQgd2hlbiBEVkQgRmFjdG9yeSB0cmllcyB0byBhc3N1bWUgdGhhdCBp dCBpcywgaXQgY3Jhc2hlcy4NCiANCk15IHNldHRpbmdzIGZvciBDQlIgYXJlIERCU01heEJpdFJh dGU6IDU5NjAwMDAgKHdoaWNoIGlzIHdoYXQgSSByZWNvcmQgZXZlcnl0aGluZyBhdCkgIERpdmlk aW5nIGJ5MTAyNCB5aWVsZHMgYWJvdXQgNTgyMCBrYnBzLCBzbyBtYXliZSB0aGF0IGlzIGl0PyAg UGVyaGFwcyBJIHNob3VsZCBqdXN0IGNoYW5nZSBpdCB0byAgNTkzOTIwMD8NCiANCklzIHRoZXJl IGFueSB3YXkgZm9yIG1lIHRvIHRlbGwgZXhhY3RseSB3aGF0IHRoZSBiaXRyYXRlIG9mIG15IHZp ZGVvIGlzPyAgRFZEIEZhY3RvcnkgYWN0dWFsbHkgc2VlbXMgdG8gdGhpbmsgdGhhdCBpdCBpcyA1 ODAwa2Jwcy4gIE1heWJlIHRoZSBzZWNvbmQgdGhlb3J5IGlzIGluY29ycmVjdCB0aGVuLg0KIA0K RmluYWxseSwgYW55b25lIHdobyBoYXMgYnVybmVkIGRpcmVjdGx5IGZyb20gVGl2byBhdCA3MjB4 NDgwLCB3aXRob3V0IGEgdmlkZW8gcmUtZW5jb2RlOiAgV2hhdCBEVkQgY3JlYXRpb24gdG9vbCBh cmUgeW91IHVzaW5nPyAgU3BydWNlIFVwIHNlZW1zIHRvIHdvcmsgZm9yIG1lLCBTY2VuYXJpc3Qg cmVqZWN0cyB0aGUgdmlkZW8gc3RyZWFtLCBhbmQgRFZEIEZhY3Rvcnkgc2VlbXMgdG8gd2FudCB0 byBmYWlsIHVubGVzcyBJIGZvcmNlIGl0IHRvIHJlLWVuY29kZSBhdCBhIGxvd2VyIHNldHRpbmcg KHdoaWNoIGp1c3QgdGFrZXMgYSBsb25nIHRpbWUpLg0KIA0KU29ycnkgZm9yIHRoZSBsb25nIGVt YWlsLCBidXQgSSBndWVzcyBJIGp1c3Qgd2FudCB0byBmaWd1cmUgb3V0IHRoZSBiZXN0IHdheSB0 byBkbyB0aGUgRFZEIGNyZWF0aW9uIHdpdGhvdXQgdGFraW5nIGhvdXJzIHRvIHJlLWVuY29kZS4g IFVsdGltYXRlbHksIG1ha2luZyBhIGRlY2VudCAxIGhvdXIgRFZEIHRha2VzIGFib3V0IGFuIGhv dXIgZm9yIG1lLCBpbmNsdWRpbmcgZXh0cmFjdGlvbiwgY29tbWVyY2lhbCBlZGl0aW5nLCBhbmQg bWVudSBjcmVhdGlvbi4gIEJ1dCwgaWYgSSBoYXZlIHRvIHJlLWVuY29kZSwgdGhlIHRpbWUgZ29l cyB0byBhYm91dCAxMCBob3Vycy4NCiANClRoYW5rcyBhbGwsDQogDQpSb2dlcg0K From daniel at electricrain.com Sat Jan 25 20:44:18 2003 From: daniel at electricrain.com (Dan Sully) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:44:18 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] HDVR2 Backup Image Message-ID: <20030125204417.GI31932@electricrain.com> My HDVR2 shipped with a -151 OS revision. This one isn't hackable with the BASH_ENV bootpage trick. Does anyone have a (virgin) U2 or U5 HDVR2 image that allows the BASH_ENV hack? Thanks. -D -- Are we there yet? From rpeck at rpeck.com Sun Jan 26 00:41:47 2003 From: rpeck at rpeck.com (Ray Peck) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:41:47 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] multiplexing the output of TmpgEnc to feed to Ulead DVD Moviefactory? Message-ID: <15923.11979.320944.470508@rpeck.com> Before attempting to transfer from my Tivo to DVD-R, I've been trying video from mini-DV. I own Vegas Video, and have used it to edit my video, but I don't like the results of its mpeg encoder or the one built in to Ulead DVD MovieFactory, so I rendered into DV and encoded using TmpgEnc. The video looks a lot better, but now I can't figure out how to get the demultiplexed streams onto DVD. The Ulead software only accepts single multiplexed mpeg files. I haven't found any tool that can mux my 48k linear audio WAV file with my m2v or whatever the heck it is. It seems like all the tools can only mux ac-3 encoded audio or something. Does anyone have a clue for me? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "If I were two-faced, would I be wearing this one?" - Abraham Lincoln From rpeck at rpeck.com Sun Jan 26 00:45:10 2003 From: rpeck at rpeck.com (Ray Peck) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:45:10 -0800 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] Burning Tivo feed to DVD without encode In-Reply-To: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F560E@postal.homestead-corp.com> References: <9B9B61FC5C65A94EAFC1950F2E58FCF80F560E@postal.homestead-corp.com> Message-ID: <15923.12182.14468.184411@rpeck.com> How funny that I didn't read this message before sending mine! >Now, in my case, I am burning at 5800kbps/224kbps so no re-encoding is >necessary. DVD Workshop complies by skipping those phases. However, >when it tries to re-multiplex the the streams, it just crashes on me. This is happening for me, too. I can create something that Ulead's software doesn't accept, or something that it crashes on. So far, nothing that works! :-( ---------------------------------------------------------------------- "I think you should defend to the death their right to march, and then go down and meet them with baseball bats." -- Woody Allen, on the KKK From douglass at artships.com Sun Jan 26 16:54:04 2003 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 10:54:04 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] multiplexing the output of TmpgEnc to feed to Ulead DVD Moviefactory? In-Reply-To: <15923.11979.320944.470508@rpeck.com> References: <15923.11979.320944.470508@rpeck.com> Message-ID: <67483vcf8pfsi8dqjr29f02206rjqh7vli@4ax.com> On Sat, 25 Jan 2003 16:41:47 -0800, Ray Peck wrote: >The Ulead software only accepts single multiplexed mpeg files. I >haven't found any tool that can mux my 48k linear audio WAV file with my >m2v or whatever the heck it is. Interesting. I use TMPGEnc to change my audio file to DVD-standard and mux it with the video. If TMPGEnc won't mux your audio and video (simple mux in the mpeg tools menu), try feeding it just the audio, load the DVD tmplate, then select ES (Audio only), then hit Start. Resulting mp2 file should mux or be accepted by Ulead. You may have to rename it to .mpa HTH John From douglass at artships.com Mon Jan 27 06:02:11 2003 From: douglass at artships.com (John Douglass) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 00:02:11 -0600 Subject: [Extractstream [MM]] multiplexing the output of TmpgEnc to feed to Ulead DVD Moviefactory? In-Reply-To: <15924.32036.3857.700091@rpeck.com> References: <15923.11979.320944.470508@rpeck.com> <67483vcf8pfsi8dqjr29f02206rjqh7vli@4ax.com> <15924.32036.3857.700091@rpeck.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 26 Jan 2003 16:28:20 -0800, Ray Peck wrote: >Is your audio linear 48k, or mp3 like the other guy was trying? As I said, DVD standard. Not mp3.