[ExtractStream] Re: Have a tivo and need to get Tivoftpd in it.

[Marc Lavergne]

You can't "downgrade" a TiVo without losing everything. The reason is 
that the MFS objects (not file system) are modified with each version 
upgrade. It's doable, but you have to start with a clean slate again. 
Distributing the TiVo 1.3 software would be a copyright violation. What 
I would suggest is that you buy an old hard drive from an HDR112 on ebay 
with 1.3 on it (regardless ... you should always have a backup image 
handy before you start hacking ... hint hint). It's your call if you 
want to do this. You'll also need to prevent TiVo from updating the TiVo 
software after you get it installed. This is a trivial hack (only works 
on 1.3 ... sorry 2.5'ers) that involves changing a few file write flags. 
I don't have the specific instructions handy (you need to edit the 
upgrade flag in /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit) but they're posted on AVS forum 
somewhere:

http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/forumdisplay.php?forumid=8

As for shows disappearing, I don't know. Sorry.

To get tivoftpd on your TiVo you have a few choices. A) pull the disk 
out of your TiVo and plug it into your PC then use a boot disk utility 
to put the file on your TiVo drive -or- B) use the TiVo built in 
http_get client to pull the file off your personal webserver. 
Personally, I'd bzip2 the tivoftpd file and fetch it from the TiVo using 
http_get. Sneak a peek in the /tvbin directory on your TiVo to find this 
file. You could also send it over using SZ/RZ via the serial port -or- 
uuencode it and send it plain text, but B above beats these in a heartbeat.

What you use to download files is a matter of platform and preference. I 
only run Linux and I think PlayItSam is the best:

http://minnie.tuhs.org/Programs/Playitsam/README.html

If you run Windoze, hang around, that is a real common theme on this 
mailing list. Now where's my Labatt's 50? ;-)

Cheers!

kriscomach wrote:

> Thanks for Replying!
> Okay I have a TivoNet card and I bought it from 9thtee. and the 
> Version of Tivo I have on my Philips is 2.5. Can you tell me how to 
> update to a older version like 1.3. and can you tell me how you 
> sended your tivoftpd to the tivo(how and with what and direction). 
> and tell me step by step because other users maybe in the same 
> situation? Can you explain this to me how come the shows that I have 
> on tivo disappear after a few weeks I have on my tivo. that sucks. Is 
> there a way I can prevent from deleting my shows even if I have them 
> saved on the tivo for a mounth or longer? After this can you tell me 
> what kind of program you use to get your files from tivo? and what 
> directory do you download the file? I know they are like 
> extention .ty something like that?
> thanks you again guys. 
> bye.
> 
> --- In ExtractStream@y..., Marc Lavergne <mlavergn-pub@r...> wrote:
> 
>>This depends on alot of factors. Do you have a TurboNet or TivoNet 
>>
> card? 
> 
>>What version of the TiVo software are you on? Here's the best 
>>
> places to 
> 
>>start:
>>
>>http://www.9thtee.com/turbonet.htm
>>http://tivo.samba.org
>>
>>If you don't have a Turbo/TivoNet card, that is step one ... order 
>>
> one 
> 
>>from the 9thtee link above. You could run tivoftpd over the serial 
>>
> port 
> 
>>and PPP but that's insanity.
>>
>>The version of the TiVo software is a key factor here. 1.3 offers 
>>
> many 
> 
>>hacking options while 3.0 closes the door on many. This is 
>>
> especially 
> 
>>true with regards to "initial setup" questions such as this.
>>
>>If you want post back with TiVo software version info and which 
>>
> TiVo 
> 
>>network card you have and you'll get more precise answers.
>>
>>Good luck!
>>
>>kriscomach wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I have a Phillips tivo and it is the most popular one that likes 
>>>
> to 
> 
>>>be hacked. My quection is this I need to get it up and running. I 
>>>have posted a simulier quection and I didn't understand. Can 
>>>
> someone 
> 
>>>post to me very easy. this is a new branch for me and I would 
>>>
> like to 
> 
>>>get familier. Thank you and have a good day.
>>>
>>>bye.
>>>
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